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2/3 of Grand Rapids Public School freshmen failing
WOODTV ^ | Kristi Anderson

Posted on 12/12/2006 7:19:09 AM PST by TitanicMan2003

Superintendent of Grand Rapids Public Schools Bernard Taylor is looking for ways to improve after an instructional audit showed high rates of failure in high schools.

The audit shows more than 50 percent of students at all four high shools did not meet district standards on writing assessments. Also, more than 65 percent of freshmen are failing classes.

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Other numbers in the audit indicate the number of freshmen with a grade point average below 2.0 increased and more than 40 percent of high school students missed more than 10 days of school in core classes.

Taylor said he won't blame anyone, adding the purpose of making these findings public is to be transparent and solicit community help.

"I'm going to put it out there," Taylor said. "People will respond or they won't. My purpose was not to point fingers or assign blame, (but to) look at what we need to do and figure out how we're going to get there."

Parents want to know how the situations will be fixed.

(Excerpt) Read more at woodtv.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: dumbingdown; garbageingarbageout; grandrapids; michigan; publicschools
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Wow. Just wow.
1 posted on 12/12/2006 7:19:11 AM PST by TitanicMan2003
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To: TitanicMan2003

"Taylor said he won't blame anyone,"

Probably because he's to blame. Heads need to roll.


2 posted on 12/12/2006 7:22:26 AM PST by L98Fiero (The media is a self-licking ice-cream cone)
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To: TitanicMan2003

Maybe they need to bring back the King James Version of English, and the King's Bible.


3 posted on 12/12/2006 7:23:49 AM PST by rovenstinez (,)
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To: TitanicMan2003; mcvey; JSedreporter

Thomas Sowell's "Inside American Education" documents numerous ways teachers attack parental authority.

Teachers have asked third-graders, "How many of you ever wanted to beat up your parents?"

In a high school health class, students were asked, "How many of you hate your parents?"


4 posted on 12/12/2006 7:26:58 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: TitanicMan2003

Fire all the teachers...hire new ones.
Dump the curriculum


5 posted on 12/12/2006 7:26:59 AM PST by steve8714 (Isn't Israel a sovereign nation?)
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To: L98Fiero

More evidence of an over-supplied school administration.


6 posted on 12/12/2006 7:28:08 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

I guess you are not familiar with Baltimore City schools. I read the article and yawn. Baltimore City schools have a 19% truancy rate, and that is its strong point.


7 posted on 12/12/2006 7:28:21 AM PST by sportsterinred
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To: TitanicMan2003
Taylor said he won't blame anyone...

...in a prepared statement from the NEA.

8 posted on 12/12/2006 7:28:32 AM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: TitanicMan2003
more than 40 percent of high school students missed more than 10 days of school in core classes.

(snip)

Parents want to know how the situations will be fixed.

Maybe start by being parents?

9 posted on 12/12/2006 7:28:52 AM PST by digger48
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To: TitanicMan2003

They're all spending too much time pushing Amway products.


10 posted on 12/12/2006 7:29:21 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: digger48
Parents want to know how the situations will be fixed.

Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear about all the concerned parents jumping in and asking "How can WE help to improve the situation?" Not holding my breath...

11 posted on 12/12/2006 7:33:02 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: rovenstinez
What we, not "they," need to bring back is consequences for failure rather than supporting them the rest of their lives.
12 posted on 12/12/2006 7:34:44 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

If Taylor needed to see this report before he knew the problem existed as was this bad, he needs to be fired, or recalled.

BTW, would this be called a hard hitting expose on WOOD TV?

;-)


13 posted on 12/12/2006 7:34:46 AM PST by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: TitanicMan2003

There are scads and scads of Christian schools in the area, in addition to many, many home-schoolers. So one could argue the public schools are filled with those left behind.


14 posted on 12/12/2006 7:35:12 AM PST by M. Thatcher
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To: zook
They're all spending too much time pushing Amway products

Not likely that many of these "students" have a clue about Amway.
They've probably never heard of Ada, where Amway is headquartered.
They probably do know about "pushing" though.

15 posted on 12/12/2006 7:38:43 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

Obviously, they need to lower the standards. (/sarcasm)


16 posted on 12/12/2006 7:39:08 AM PST by Pest (Attorneys are the larval form of politicians!)
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To: L98Fiero

Taylor's relatively new... this is his first year there. However, he made some comments recently that offended the teacher's union (first to blame) and Heaven help the superintendent that offends parents (next to blame) and the school board hired him and could probably terminate him (next in the list)... so by this point, you run out of people to blame.

Honestly, GRPS has been a mess for years. Now, should I be ashamed of having graduated from one of their schools, or proud that I was one of the few who managed?

MGY


17 posted on 12/12/2006 7:40:28 AM PST by TitanicMan2003 (This just in... Yasser Arafat, despite the rumors, is still dead.)
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To: TitanicMan2003

The attitude toward education begins at home. If the parents don't value education, neither will the kids.


18 posted on 12/12/2006 7:41:21 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: TitanicMan2003

"Throw more money at the problem," will be the final solution.


19 posted on 12/12/2006 7:42:12 AM PST by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: ASA Vet

Actually, I was thinking more about the teachers! :)


20 posted on 12/12/2006 7:42:37 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: devane617
It's McCain and a Rat --

You repeat yourself.

L

21 posted on 12/12/2006 7:44:47 AM PST by Lurker (Historys most dangerous force is government and the crime syndicates that grow with it.)
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To: TitanicMan2003
Memo to school administrators: Quick, change the course requirements to lower expectations before anyone notices. Also, get teachers' union to threaten to go on strike if questioned by taxpayers, parents, or school board members about the abject failure of the total school system.
22 posted on 12/12/2006 7:45:18 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: devane617

Probably, except that GRPS is so horribly mismanaged that there is no money. The neighborhoods go up in arms if they try to close one of the half-or-third-full schools, and they just got a millage increase a little while ago (good luck getting a second). They'll either have to find real solutions or let the situation fester. I'm exprecting the latter.

MGY


23 posted on 12/12/2006 7:46:24 AM PST by TitanicMan2003 (This just in... Yasser Arafat, despite the rumors, is still dead.)
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To: TexasRepublic

We dont want their kids to be "like whitey". Reading books makes you like whitey.


24 posted on 12/12/2006 7:46:29 AM PST by sportsterinred
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To: the_devils_advocate_666

Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear about all the concerned parents jumping in and asking "How can WE help to improve the situation?" Not holding my breath...

Most of the ones that really care have already pulled their children out of socialized education.


25 posted on 12/12/2006 7:46:39 AM PST by freedomfiter2
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To: TitanicMan2003

Students are failing across the country yet, teachers are paid more then ever in history.

They say they need more money.


26 posted on 12/12/2006 7:49:56 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

What should we do?


27 posted on 12/12/2006 7:50:41 AM PST by sportsterinred
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To: TitanicMan2003

In your job, you have pay for performance.....right? Do the same thing with teachers. Break the unions and demand that the teachers perform. Right now, it's called dumbing down our kids. These kids are the future of this country......demand that the schools fix it.


28 posted on 12/12/2006 7:51:51 AM PST by Ron2
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
"Wouldn't it be refreshing to hear about all the concerned parents jumping in and asking "How can WE help to improve the situation?"

Not from that area, can only speak to what happens when parents want to get involved in my area. Nothing. The system seems to deliberately exclude parents. Nearly all inquires to teachers regarding homework assignments/testing/performance are ignored or not adequately addressed. Parents that are insistent, are viewed as meddlers, called "helicopter parents" for hovering around where they are not wanted. Screw public school.

29 posted on 12/12/2006 7:52:27 AM PST by moehoward
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To: sportsterinred

De-unionize the schools, allow local school boards to hire principles, allow principals to fire bad teachers. Pay teachers based on ability not time served, pay teachers on a curve. Get rid of the federal level education hacks and return to state and local level. End the pension system in place. Hold Univ boards accountable possible by public election.

Unions don't allow many teachers to even attend football games any longer so teacher - student interaction at social events with parents is good. I wrote a piece a long time ago on 10 things we need to do. I'll have to go back through the files.


30 posted on 12/12/2006 7:56:00 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Ron2

" demand that the teachers perform."

Problem is in a lot of districts staffing is very difficult as it is. The reason they take bad teachers is because nobody else wants the job. A lot of NC schools are like this. Upping the bar will just mean empty classrooms. It is a spectacularly complex problem that will take a generation of good leadership to solve.


31 posted on 12/12/2006 7:56:03 AM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: edcoil

Grand Rapids is in Michigan. Let's not forget the powerful Teachers Union and MEA which controls Michigan's public education. Michigan has the highest teacher pay (behind Alaska) in the Country. Inner city schools (like Grand Rapids) suffer the most but suburban schools are just slightly better.


32 posted on 12/12/2006 7:56:52 AM PST by crymeariver (Good news...in a way)
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To: sportsterinred

Same with the Cincinnati Public Schools. They are a mess.


33 posted on 12/12/2006 8:00:31 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: SmoothTalker

The leadership has not emerged in 200 years. Its not going to emerge today either. There is a sub set of people who will at all costs keep their children suppressed. They are easy to spot. You are not able to overcome this mindset. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton speak DIRECTLY to these people. We need to cut welfare and social give away and let the chips fall. Lets get by this. You can only beat a dead horse for so long.


34 posted on 12/12/2006 8:01:23 AM PST by sportsterinred
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To: TitanicMan2003

Quick - lower the standards and give that school some more money!


35 posted on 12/12/2006 8:03:10 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: TitanicMan2003
its not just GR, its all over MI. Our public schools are really starting to suck.
Lansing schools are almost as bad. Teachers are apparently whining to their students rather than teaching them. We just had a student "protest" to get higher salary for their teachers.
Not to mention earlier this year lansing schools sent out cops to drag kids into school for the accounting days to get more funding.
36 posted on 12/12/2006 8:04:19 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them.)
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To: absolootezer0

Statr by cleaning out all those Muslims. They will ruin your state soon.


37 posted on 12/12/2006 8:06:41 AM PST by sportsterinred
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To: sportsterinred

The problem here is not so much with the teachers
but the eroded community. When you have 20% truancy it
says alot abouth the community as a whole.


38 posted on 12/12/2006 8:12:49 AM PST by ChiMark
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To: sportsterinred

MI needs alot of cleaning out. the caNADian trash gov, the socialist senators, the detroit congressman that makes the senators look moderate..


39 posted on 12/12/2006 8:25:03 AM PST by absolootezer0 (detroit's only getting better because so many people are leaving the city.)
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To: digger48
I missed more than 10 days of school and i have an excellent mother(many high school kids miss a lot of school these days), and my mom also like these parents complained to the school. But she may of complained because they kicked me out when she sent them my medical bill in the mail. Once they saw that I may of filed a law suit for countless upon countless things they did to me, they figured that my test scores where not worth it...This school district seems pretty good compared to mine, where do i sign up?
40 posted on 12/12/2006 8:58:55 AM PST by ryan125
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To: rovenstinez
Maybe they need to bring back the King James Version of English, and the King's Bible.

How about the McGuffy Reader?

CA....

41 posted on 12/12/2006 9:01:02 AM PST by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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but I doubt that 40% of students have medical situation that keep them from school


My kids school allowed no such thing as an unexcused absense, and more than 3 days missed a semester, better have some Dr. excuses, to avoid suspension


42 posted on 12/12/2006 9:06:50 AM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

oh no i don't even have a medical condition i got bit by the spiders that crawled from the ceiling in my math class.


43 posted on 12/12/2006 9:09:17 AM PST by ryan125
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To: ryan125

and my point was that some of these schools are SO bad that you can't blame the children for not wanting to attend, and can't blame the parents for not wanting their kid to go into the torment that a public school brings.


44 posted on 12/12/2006 9:11:26 AM PST by ryan125
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To: TitanicMan2003

In the days of yore, the CA public school system was a model for other states to follow. That was until the liberals took over the reigns of leadership and the illegal population began to over-run the public school system.

Money is flooded into the public school system for teacher development, and interventions for the ELL population and little progress has been gained.

Superindents/adminstrators/teachers run at the first sign of conflict. They are afraid of lawsuits not only from each other, but from parents of students.

The lack of "zero tolerance policies" for poor behavior is missing in some of the schools. Suspensions/expulsions are a matter of public record (school accountability report cards). Therefore, adminstrators do not suspend/expel students because they do not want their schools to be viewed by the public in a poor light.

Some districts..there is the view social promotion is acceptable. Must not damage a student's self esteem by retaining them.

There is a lack of parent accountability as well as student accountability especially in low income schools (SES schools).

Taylor is being transparent..attempting to get ahead of the game because his job is on the line...Plenty of superintendents, across the nation, do not want to lose their high paying jobs.



45 posted on 12/12/2006 9:12:19 AM PST by Goldie Lurks (professional moonbat catcher)
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Well,......I guess that having to do battle with Arachnids in Academia COULD affect ones studies

got to admit.....that's a bit out of the ordinary there

46 posted on 12/12/2006 9:17:23 AM PST by digger48
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To: TexasRepublic
Exactly!!

Stupid, ignorant, indifferent, irresponsible parents, 90% of the time, wind up creating stupid, ignorant, indifferent, irresponsible kids.

47 posted on 12/12/2006 9:18:33 AM PST by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: AD from SpringBay

How about raise the standards and fire the teachers?


48 posted on 12/12/2006 9:26:47 AM PST by ryan125
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To: TitanicMan2003

Fixing this problem requires starting in K or 1st grade. By the time these kids are 14 or 15 it is way too late.

If the public schools used and taught a solid curriculum consisting of math facts, arithmetic and phonics thru the 3rd grade, these kids would at least have a good base.


49 posted on 12/12/2006 9:37:27 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: TitanicMan2003
My sister lives in Grand Rapids and she and I have had a long discussions about the problems with their school system.

Let me start by saying that she sends her children to private Christian school as does most of the white poplulation in Grand Rapids that can afford it. There are so many Christian schools that they even have sport teams to compete with each other.

Why is this a bad thing you ask? The main reason my sister gave for pulling their kids out of public school was the racial (and gang) conflicts and associated violence. I explained that they have created their own racial tension since what they have left in school are mostly black and hispanic students. If the white kids were still in public school they might act as a "buffer" rather than having 2 groups go at it head to head. It is possible that friendships or associations would overlap the racial boundary that exists now, either with sports, clubs, after school activities (yearbook, newspaper, etc).

Residents of Grand Rapids pay some of the highest property taxes for these public schools, but they pay AGAIN the tuition to the Christian schools their children actually attend. While many would think this absurd (I know I do), she explains that they just can't put their kids at risk for getting beat up, etc. and that the private schools are better academically. I have told her that they have created their own problem by taking most of the white kids out...that's why the racial trouble exists. What really makes me nuts is that there is a special offering at her church to help families with tuition costs who can't afford to send their kids to Christian school.

They have made this bed, now it's time to un-make it or lie in it.

50 posted on 12/12/2006 11:02:42 AM PST by Apple Blossom (...around here, city hall is something of a between meals snack.)
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