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The NSA and Princess Di (was Clinton spying on her for a date?)
Copyright 2006 The American Spectator ^ | Monday, December 11, 2006 @ 7:16:07 PM | Posted By: Jed Babbin

Posted on 12/12/2006 9:39:39 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

A Brit newspaper is reporting that the US "secret services" -- presumably the CIA and NSA -- were spying on Princess Diana, bugging her telephone conversations in the summer of 1997, up to and including the day she died. But why would anyone bother? The British royals aren't much involved in politics or matters of national security.

There's only one reason I can think of. Was Clinton wanting to get the lowdown on her before asking for a date? I am pursuing other information from experts, trusted sources, and the usual suspects

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: astroturfedtruck; cia; clinton; clintonlegacy; democrats; diana; hildebeast; nsa; princessdi; sinkmeister; stains
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After all, its not as if Clinton was shy about using the power of the Presidency (or governorship) to spy on people and/or sexually exploit them.
1 posted on 12/12/2006 9:39:42 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"I'd tap her!" - President Bill "Horn Dog" Clinton.
2 posted on 12/12/2006 9:41:07 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Maybe Clinton put a hit out on her.


3 posted on 12/12/2006 9:41:07 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: KarlInOhio

To me, it looks like another hit by Hillary.


4 posted on 12/12/2006 9:43:29 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant
Maybe Clinton put a hit out on her.

You mean Hillary Clinton, right?

5 posted on 12/12/2006 9:44:42 AM PST by Taxbilly
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

My guess is--on the presumption that the U.K. has domestic spying restrictions--that we were spying on her so that we could pass off the info to the Brits without them having to go through any internal judicial hurdles.


6 posted on 12/12/2006 9:45:41 AM PST by explodingspleen (http://mish-mash.info/)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
was Clinton spying on her for a date?

You are ssuming that it was BILL who ordered it.

Think of another Clinton...

7 posted on 12/12/2006 9:46:08 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ASA Vet; Atigun; ...

MI Ping


8 posted on 12/12/2006 9:46:36 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: ASA Vet

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 12/12/2006 9:48:44 AM PST by DCBryan1 (Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Execute Scum & Pit Bulls.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Other news sources have reported that the NSA never tapped her phone, but has a small amount of 'incidental collection' on her based off of them targeting other people. If the NSA is wiretapping John Doe, and John Doe calls or is called by Princess Di, then they're going to have Princess Di's voice recorded somewhere. The NSA isn't targeting her anymore than they're targeting the Pizza Hut that John Doe calls for delivery, or the bank he calls to see if he can refinance his loan.

This is truely a mountain out of a molehill.

10 posted on 12/12/2006 9:49:22 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
After all, its not as if Clinton was shy about using the power of the Presidency

Which one of the Co-Presidents do you refer?

11 posted on 12/12/2006 9:49:26 AM PST by digger48
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To: Izzy Dunne
Think of another Clinton...
Okay....

was Hillary Clinton spying on her for a date?

-Eric

12 posted on 12/12/2006 9:50:17 AM PST by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: DCBryan1
Bill probably ALREADY hit on her...and Hillary was just checking it out....she was probably prego with Bill's love child?????? Now theres a conspiracy
13 posted on 12/12/2006 9:50:20 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Her boyfriend at the time of her death was a Muslim. Rich and I believe from Saudi Arabia. Maybe he was a financier of some event that caught someones eye.
14 posted on 12/12/2006 9:51:13 AM PST by PureTrouble
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To: Izzy Dunne

I suspect that DI had a number of chats per month with people who were regularly wanted in the US for tax evasion and fraud. She probably never realized the characters she was hanging around and just became a big target. When you look at Cat Stevens today in the UK...he is a Muslim who probably hasn't done anyone any wrong...but his association with various shady characters...especially in the charity world...makes him a great target to spy upon.


15 posted on 12/12/2006 9:51:37 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Steel Wolf

"This is truely a mountain out of a molehill."

***

I'm just tired of it all. The woman is dead. Why can't people let her rest in peace.


16 posted on 12/12/2006 9:51:44 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This has Hillary's fingerprints all over it!

....for several reasons.

17 posted on 12/12/2006 9:52:25 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I recall reports of Di sleeping over at the White House once when Hillary was out of town. I seem to recall Hillary being upset at the time.

We all recall the private detectives, and the 300 (?) or so FBI files on political opponents immediately after Bill took office.

We all suspected a continuing investigation of everybody the Clintons thought they could intimidate with information on their background.

Don't rule out his checking on Di to help him get laid.


18 posted on 12/12/2006 9:52:32 AM PST by Rhetorical pi2
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I sincerely doubt this based off the fact that Clinton's tastes seem to be considerably less than Princess Di. If he had actually had an affair with Princess Di, I think we'd have a different opinion of Clinton. For one, we might not ever know about it, because Princess Di probably would have done her laundry. And also, dating Di would make Clinton more suave - like JFK was suave for dating Marilyn Monroe.

But let's face it - Monica Lewinsky - she's pretty trashy. Like Brittney Spears-reality TV trashy.


19 posted on 12/12/2006 9:53:06 AM PST by ll_t
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To: Rhetorical pi2

Funny. Bush taps the phones of Islamo Fascists, Clinton of faux-celebs. Compare and contrast.


20 posted on 12/12/2006 9:55:36 AM PST by Patrick1
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To: Brilliant

Clinton Spied, Princess DIed?


21 posted on 12/12/2006 9:56:45 AM PST by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Youngman442002
she was probably prego with Bill's love child??????

The only proof that Bill wasn't sterile is that half black boy in AR.
The DNA test results obtained from him were "inconclusive."


22 posted on 12/12/2006 9:57:56 AM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: fatnotlazy
I'm just tired of it all. The woman is dead. Why can't people let her rest in peace.

It's more garbage for the tabloids to sell, plain and simple. If anyone thinks that there's an analytical team at the NSA that would spend more than 30 seconds considering whether or not to wiretap Princess Di before calling bull$#^% is hallucinating. It's the stuff of bad television.

23 posted on 12/12/2006 9:58:58 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Actually, IIRC, somewhere Di admitted to Bubba hitting on her, declaring that she was "very naughty" with the sitting Prez.

It may be that someone felt all Bubba's gals had to be watched for security reasons at one point or another. If Di was taking up with Dodi and so on, maybe someone was wondering what pillow talk / flirt blather was going from Bubba to a gal to her next BF.

Remember Bubba on the phone with a congresscritter about the Kosovo war all the while Monica was doing her thing?

This speculation made possible by Bubba's icky pattern of conduct.


24 posted on 12/12/2006 9:59:01 AM PST by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: Rhetorical pi2; Behind Liberal Lines

“Over time, the source said, Hillary Clinton "became a role model for her. You could see how, on Diana's part, it was a natural attraction. Hillary was like her older sister."

“In the princess's later visits to the White House, Hillary Clinton was aware of Diana's fragility, especially after her divorce from Charles, and provided her with both protection and privacy. “

http://www.salon.com/sept97/news/news970903.html


25 posted on 12/12/2006 10:00:25 AM PST by LucyT
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To: wouldntbprudent
"declaring that she was "very naughty" with the sitting Prez."

Does this confirm that she was a slut?

26 posted on 12/12/2006 10:01:35 AM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: wouldntbprudent
"declaring that she was "very naughty" with the sitting Prez."

Does this confirm that she was a slut?

27 posted on 12/12/2006 10:01:37 AM PST by verity (Muhammed is a Dirt Bag)
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To: PureTrouble

Her boyfriend's father owned Herod's dept stores I believe.


28 posted on 12/12/2006 10:02:12 AM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Clinton didnt want to "date" her per say he prolly just wanted to spank his monkey a few times, like he always does.


29 posted on 12/12/2006 10:02:50 AM PST by beansox
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Clinton spied on all high profile people, and got information on their private lives for fun and/or blackmail. Remember when he announced, with great sorrow, that Bob Hope died, only to find out that he had not? That exposed what he was doing. He was looking to be "President Daddy", to be the first one to console us when someone died, to tell us bad or good news, and to hold to his vest who was banging who. One by one, they went soft on Clinton during the 90s--GHWB, Orrin Hatch, Linseed Graham, Bob Dole, Newt, Trent Lott, and....titans of industry, too. Think he couldn't ask GM or Morgan Stanley for favors when he wanted them? And don't forget the IRS audits.

With Princess Di, he was probably looking to find out who she was doing, for gossip's sake, and perhaps for future reference in case he ever wanted to dump the witch and start an Anglo-US leftist alliance.

30 posted on 12/12/2006 10:02:53 AM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: Defiant

I don't remember Clinton announcing Bob Hope had died. I remember it was announced in Congress, but not by Clinton.


31 posted on 12/12/2006 10:06:04 AM PST by MarkeyD (The tree of liberty must from time to time be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Brilliant

32 posted on 12/12/2006 10:06:22 AM PST by ErnBatavia (recent nightmare: Googled up "Helen Thomas nude"....)
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To: pepsionice
I suspect that DI had a number of chats per month with people who were regularly wanted in the US for tax evasion and fraud. She probably never realized the characters she was hanging around and just became a big target. When you look at Cat Stevens today in the UK...he is a Muslim who probably hasn't done anyone any wrong...but his association with various shady characters...especially in the charity world...makes him a great target to spy upon.

I suspect you are right, although I'm not sure that NSA was looking for tax cheats. If I recall correctly, she was hanging out with royals from the Middle East who we may have been keeping tabs on and that's how she ended up on a recorded line.

There is also the possibility that Clintoon was doing Chuck a favor because Chuck didn't want to use his own spook agencies out of fear that someone might tip off extremely popular Princess Di.

And there's the possibility that Clintoon didn't even know at the time that she was being tapped.

33 posted on 12/12/2006 10:06:55 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: verity

"Does this confirm that she was a slut?"

If true, it confirms not only that she was a slut, but that she was a slut with extremely bad taste.


34 posted on 12/12/2006 10:09:09 AM PST by dsc
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To: Steel Wolf

Everyone knows there is No Such Agency.


35 posted on 12/12/2006 10:10:06 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: dsc

"If true, it confirms not only that she was a slut, but that she was a slut with extremely bad taste."

Look up Jody Williams and the ICBL...and then keep looking, the answer is there.


36 posted on 12/12/2006 10:11:42 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: beansox
It is a myth that Clinton would finish himself in the sink. No one, especially the President, would do that--it would take away from the rush he gets from establishing his power. It's why he's a philanderer--a deep part of his psychology.

No, what happened was, he lied about banging Monica. Said he didn't have "sex" with her. Then, had to come up with a plausible lie for how he didn't have sex with her, yet left behind his "presidue".

So, they spent months on this. First, convince the nation that oral sex isn't sex. Then, get people to speak to Monica so she gets her story straight. They did that, and, as they are brilliant criminals, they knew that it would be "swallowed" more easily if it was an embarassing story that came out. So, they came up with this "sink" story, and "voila" we get the Sinkmaster.

But it was never true. The truth is that he banged Monica and dozens of women in the white house, including a yound intern, and lied his ass off about it in a sexual harassment suit. Clinton' propaganda machine gave us teenage girls thinking it was ok to give head now. They were, and are, very very good at propaganda. So, the lesson for today is.....get ready for a helluva fight for this nation's future in 2008.

37 posted on 12/12/2006 10:11:44 AM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: Defiant

Or jus' for some good ol fashioned phone sex via NSA eavesdropping- since the Clintons used every other national asset as their personal possession


38 posted on 12/12/2006 10:11:54 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: dsc

And it has nothing to do with sex.


39 posted on 12/12/2006 10:13:25 AM PST by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: Defiant
I dunno...I always get this creepy voyeurism deviant vibe from him....and I don't put it past him to have spanked it a few times while secretly watching her....and most likely a lot of others.
40 posted on 12/12/2006 10:15:09 AM PST by beansox
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

LOL!


41 posted on 12/12/2006 10:15:20 AM PST by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: Steel Wolf
From Macsmind.com (a conservative blog).....

"Ok, so who is Forstmann?

Theodore Forstmann is a Wall Street legend who had been rumored to have an affair with Diana, and who also considered a run for the New York Senate seat in 2000 - which Hillary won.

He is also a staunch supporter of the Right:

“Forstmann, a high-powered equity investor, has close ties to a number of key rightwing figures. His Forstmann Little buyout firm counts among its former advisers Henry Kissinger and George Shultz. (5) He is the founding chair of Empower America, a rightist outfit led by William Bennett, Jack Kemp, and Jeane Kirkpatrick; and he has served alongside Donald Rumsfeld on the boards of a number of companies, including Gulfstream Aerospace and General Instruments. (6) He also served as co-chair of George H.W. Bush’s reelection campaign in 1992. (7)”

Forstmann heavily funded and supported Republicans in ‘94, 96 and 98, which helped to keep the GOP majority during Clinton’s two terms. One could assume easily that he didn’t fit the mode of a “Friend of Bill”.

So was the Clinton administration doing a little “Watergate”, trying to digg up poop on the GOP, or maybe find something to make Forstmann a sort of Abramoff in order to prepare for the 1998 elections where Democrats at the time hoped to pick up 11 seats for control of the house?

Definitely going to dig into this a little."

42 posted on 12/12/2006 10:15:38 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: MarkeyD
It was either Clinton himself, or the White House issuing a statement, but Bob Hope was not dead, just "mostly dead".

Kidding, he was ill, but recovered and lived for some period of time thereafter. They probably intercepted something that made them think he died. Hope's people and doctors all stated that none of them had called the White House or released any info, and so no one ever explained how the White House made this error.

43 posted on 12/12/2006 10:15:53 AM PST by Defiant (Obama as President would make us an Obama Nation.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

American intelligence agencies were bugging Princess Diana's telephone over her relationship with a US billionaire, the Evening Standard has learned.

She was even forced to abandon a planned holiday with her sons in the US with tycoon Teddy (Theodore) Forstmann on advice from secret services, who passed on their concerns to their British counterparts.

Both US and British intelligence then forced Diana to change her plans to stay with Mr Forstmann in the summer of 1997, saying it was too "dangerous" to take her sons there.
Instead the princess took the fateful decision to take a summer break with Harrods owner Mohamed Fayed. This ultimately led to her going to Paris with his son Dodi, where they died in a car crash.

The revelation from independent inquiries by the Evening Standard comes as it emerged that Princess Diana's phone was bugged by US intelligence agencies on the night she died without the permission of the British secret intelligence services.

Authoritative leaks say the extraordinary revelations will be published this week by Lord Stevens and is bound to raise fresh questions about conspiracy theories.
The US secret service was monitoring Diana's friendship with the controversial financier Mr Forstmann for some weeks.

Mohamed Fayed has always insisted the princess and Dodi Fayed were murdered in a plot involving MI6 agents and US intelligence.

The Standard has learned that Diana had agreed to a week's holiday with princes William and Harry in the US.
She had accepted an invitation from her one-time American boyfriend Mr. Forstmann to stay with him at his house in the Hamptons.

But as she was travelling with the princes, she needed the trip to be cleared by the British security services. They surprisingly vetoed Diana's plans because of concerns about the security surrounding the billionaire's homes or perhaps a possible threat from elsewhere.

The decision by the security services ultimately led to Diana striking up her friendship with Dodi and returning to the south of France to holiday with him.

This led to her being in Paris on 31 August, the day of the crash.

The Evening Standard also understands that US secret services have a number of secret files on Diana and her closest associates that are held by the national security agency.

The files, which include reports from foreign intelligence - thought to include MI5 and MI6 - come under both top secret and secret categories.The reports cannot be released because of "exceptionally grave damage to the national security".

The documents on the princess seem to have arisen because of the company she kept rather than through any attempt to target her.

Diana enjoyed an intimate friendship with Mr Forstmann after her relationship with Prince Charles had broken down.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23377815-details/Diana+was+bugged+by+secret+service+in+US


44 posted on 12/12/2006 10:17:30 AM PST by LucyT
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
We had a family friend who was. This was his standard answer.
45 posted on 12/12/2006 10:18:10 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Interesting theory. Kind of a Kennedy/Marilyn Monroe relationship about to be started?


46 posted on 12/12/2006 10:19:02 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Steel Wolf

Perhaps Dodi was the real target.


47 posted on 12/12/2006 10:20:01 AM PST by Sioux-san (God save the Sheeple)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Fox News has a better and perhaps more appropriate headline here:

'Di Spy' Could Warrant Clinton Probe

48 posted on 12/12/2006 10:21:24 AM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: KarlInOhio
The least Fox News can do is put a name to this; beyond Diana's that is. Drudge uses 'we' were spying. . .media offering CIA. . .et al; but no mention of the bigger 'who' here i.e. the 'Clinton WhiteHouse'. . .

I hope Fox News gets lots of e-mails as to the framing of this story. I am sending mine...

49 posted on 12/12/2006 10:22:00 AM PST by cricket (Save a Terrorist - join the Democrats/Live Liberal Free; or die)
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To: Sioux-san
Perhaps Dodi was the real target.

The point being, if you have phone contact with shady people, you may inadvertently wind up wiretapped, just like if you hang out at a drug dealer's house, you may inadvertantly see police kicking down the door one day. They may not be looking for you, but you might be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

50 posted on 12/12/2006 10:22:41 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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