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To: Steel Wolf
We can further discuss your perceived role as military motivator at some future date.

Let me give you a situation that occurred in my son's unit that might belie your claim that the military is going downhill.

The unit he deployed with was a support unit with multiple people in it who were too old and too out of shape to be going into a war zone (some women). He was frustrated out of his teenaged mind at these people's apathy and weakness (and I was scared as a mother that these people might not be able to save him if he needed to be carried because he was wounded). They were still in the Reserves mostly likely to keep the income not ever thinking they would go to war.

As time has gone on since 9/11 and since Afghanistan and Iraq, those kinds of people are dropping out, and being replaced by younger, fitter recruits, including a few older ones who are in better condition.

I think that the reality is that today's military is far sharper and fitter than it was during the Clinton years.

There is a reason for the increased enlistments and reinlistments, and the anxiousness of those who have been in Iraq to go back (my son will go back as a very young staff sergeant.....he's only 22).

It's called patriotism. And it's not being falsely cheery to recognize that, nor is it being helpfully realististic to deny it.

102 posted on 12/13/2006 7:07:13 AM PST by ohioWfan (President Bush - courageously and honorably protecting us in dangerous times, . Praise the Lord!)
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To: ohioWfan
Let me give you a situation that occurred in my son's unit that might belie your claim that the military is going downhill.

I wouldn't quite say 'going downhill', but they are heading in the wrong direction. High standards and strict requirements are good things, but loosening them won't results in sudden disaster. It's just the wrong direction to be heading in the long run. I suppose it's just semantics, but I'm not really comfortable with your wording.

The unit he deployed with was a support unit with multiple people in it who were too old and too out of shape to be going into a war zone (some women). ... They were still in the Reserves mostly likely to keep the income not ever thinking they would go to war. As time has gone on since 9/11 and since Afghanistan and Iraq, those kinds of people are dropping out, and being replaced by younger, fitter recruits, including a few older ones who are in better condition.

I wasn't a reservist, and can't really say I know any current that well, but I imagine that going to war shook a lot of these types loose. I don't really see this as holding true for the Active Duty, but considering what a large percentage the Reserves makes up, it's definitely not a bad thing that this happened.

I think that the reality is that today's military is far sharper and fitter than it was during the Clinton years.

Hard to say, and I joined in the early Clinton years. In some ways yes, and others no. Most of the Clinton military was former Reagan military, and they weren't a very PC crew. Much of the Bush military is former Clinton military, and, well, it kinda shows. Military generations are like civilian generations, and some stereotypes about them are generally true.

At any rate, cut and paste this thread to your son and see what he thinks. He may disagree with me, but I doubt he'd think I'm a pacifist leafeater who's down on the military.

108 posted on 12/13/2006 8:01:20 AM PST by Steel Wolf (As Ibn Warraq said, "There are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam.")
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