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Lab in lacrosse case found many DNA sources (DUKELAX)
The News and Observer ^ | December 13, 2006 | Joseph Neff and Benjamin Niolet, Staff Writers

Posted on 12/13/2006 1:36:38 PM PST by Howlin

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To: Howlin

There is a perfect storm a brewing.


41 posted on 12/13/2006 1:59:13 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Howlin

Tweakfong. lol


42 posted on 12/13/2006 2:00:42 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Howlin

Sheer coincidence, I'm sure.


43 posted on 12/13/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by Sue Perkick (Just a water spider on the pond of life.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

As I posted at the end of the old thread:

This is what we have been saying here for a long time. Now that lab and certainly that person is useless in court cases. They have been shown to violate policy and to color results to satisfy clients.

Defense or prosecution attorneys will pound them with this every time they ever go into court? I wonder if they are publically traded and I can run out and short their stock?

Again as we have said here over and over, Nifong is doing great damage to the judical system in NC and beyond. And it has now spilled over to private firms associated with this judicial system. Why the governor or AG can not see this and won't act is beyond me?


44 posted on 12/13/2006 2:02:01 PM PST by JLS
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To: pepperhead

I think you just may be right. And it's about damn time.


45 posted on 12/13/2006 2:02:01 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I forgot to post this the other day....

I was at a Christmas party and an acquaintance of mine is friend (I don't know how close) of Reade's parents.

She said they were confident of the outcome, but that the family is cash strapped right now due to the mounting legal bills, which she was told would boggle your mind!

this is second hand so take for what it's worth. But I can see it being true!

It is so sad, I hope these families can sue someone to get back all they have lost financially as well as their kids reputations!!!!

46 posted on 12/13/2006 2:02:16 PM PST by Repub4bush (FWF.....Speechless!)
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To: Howlin

Your sure about that timing, Howlin? Not questioning you, it just makes Tweakfong a little less of a rectal swab if that's the case.


47 posted on 12/13/2006 2:02:54 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Sue Perkick; All; Shermy

The ONLY thing that this lab reported was the DNA on the fake fingernail that "might" have matched one of the players..............AND.........now get this:


The DNA was contaminated AT THE LAB...........and guess whose DNA contimnated it?

The OWNER of this lab!


48 posted on 12/13/2006 2:04:00 PM PST by Howlin
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To: dirtboy
My gawd, just when you think the gross malfeasance cannot get any worse.

Nifong needs to go to jail for this. Meehan, too, if necessary.

It is now quite clear that, in prosecuting this case, Nifong had only one objective: His Re-election.

What a disgusting human being.

Five years in the state pen would be a reasonable sentence -- if he survived it.

49 posted on 12/13/2006 2:04:13 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: ltc8k6
Page 11 sure is interesting. The nails found in the garbage have just become useless since Kevin Coleman was a stronger possibility than Evans on the non-exclusions.
50 posted on 12/13/2006 2:05:10 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Howlin
I take that back, Howlin - if he received the tweaked-at-his-direction report just after Cheshire's statement, it still mean's he's a full contact rectal swab!
51 posted on 12/13/2006 2:05:15 PM PST by Ready4Freddy ("Everyone knows there's a difference between Muslims and terrorists. No one knows what it is, tho...)
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To: Ready4Freddy

I'm willing to bet that the first lab got the same results.


52 posted on 12/13/2006 2:05:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan met with the DIRECTOR of DNA Security on 4/10 after the first round of tests, performed on anal and panty samples, were concluded and showed no match to lax players.

New tests were conducted by DNA Security on a pubic hair sample on 4/18 and 4/19. The results showed multiple partners, but no lax players or her boyfriend.

One to two days later, on 4/20 or 4/21, the director again met with Nifong, Gottlieb and Himan.

The director of DNA Security issued its final report to Nifong on 5/12, omitting the results showing the multiple partners, which violated the company's own policy that requires all results to be reported.

Sometime later DNA Security must have issued another report because the N&O article says this information was discovered in the discovery turned over to the defense in October.

We need to compare these dates to the various dates Mangum went in to look at photo arrays and to the dates that Nifong scheduled the proposed indictments to the grand jury and to the dates he presented the indictments and also the dates he requested the arrest warrants.

Clearly there's reason for a strong suspicion that Nifong asked the director to NOT include the exculpatory evidence in the May 12 final report (that evidently wasn't quite final, lol). The director is going to have to tell the truth about this or his company's credibility will be completely destroyed and he'll be out of business. The director had stated to DPD Investigator Soucie that he very much wanted his company to be involved in the case, so he may have been willing to play ball in order to get the notoriety/free advertising/prestige of being the lab of choice in the lax case.

If this can be proven through affidavits from the director of DNA Security and/or other personnel with the company, Nifong is in very serious trouble, and this is the first time I've ever thought he was in actual SERIOUS trouble, given the politics and laws of NC being favorable to his other known misbehaviors and ethics violations.

And I wonder if the director sent the report that included the exculpatory evidence when he saw the tide was turning in the case, or because the defense was asking questions of employees or writing letters to him, or just what prompted him to get out from under Nifong's request to quash those results, if in fact that's what happened.


53 posted on 12/13/2006 2:06:26 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Howlin
I don't see how Nifong lets go. If he drops this case he will have to answer to the howling mob that elected him and explain why he did not do so earlier to everyone else.

Nifong cares not one jot about the guilt or innocence of the players. He can use them to feather his own nest and get even against the rich white boys.

54 posted on 12/13/2006 2:07:09 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: JLS

Depending on how the lab handles this, they may be out of business soon.


55 posted on 12/13/2006 2:07:52 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Howlin
OK, now this is getting serious. They must have put some real pressure (or money) on the guy from DNA Security to get him to leave that off his final report.

I seriously doubt that guy is going to want to take this hit alone.

56 posted on 12/13/2006 2:09:38 PM PST by McGavin999 (Republicans take out our trash, Democrats re-elect theirs)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Thankfully the parents have the means to hire excellent attornies. The tragedy is thinking what could have happened if they were poor families.


57 posted on 12/13/2006 2:10:02 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Jezebelle
If this can be proven through affidavits from the director of DNA Security and/or other personnel with the company, Nifong is in very serious trouble, and this is the first time I've ever thought he was in actual SERIOUS trouble, given the politics and laws of NC being favorable to his other known misbehaviors and ethics violations.

My husband and I were just discussing this; if the DNA guy decides not to go down with the ship, Nifong just may go to actual prison.

He's probably ruined anyway; this is obviously a small company -- most likely some guy or guys how left LabCorp (which is in Burlington, too).........and if he doctored the reports, he's out of business.

58 posted on 12/13/2006 2:10:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: McGavin999

See my post right below yours.....GMTA!


59 posted on 12/13/2006 2:11:27 PM PST by Howlin
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To: OldFriend


Where will they go to get their money back?


60 posted on 12/13/2006 2:11:35 PM PST by onyx (Phillip Rivers, LT and the San Diego Chargers! WOO-HOO!)
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