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Teen Expelled From School For Turning In Found Gun
CBS 2 CHICAGO ^ | 14 DECEMBER 2006 | CBS 2 CHICAGO

Posted on 12/14/2006 9:23:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist

Plainfield Student's Parents Say The Punishment Doesn't Make Sense

(CBS) PLAINFIELD, Ill. -- A 13-year-old Plainfield boy and his parents are stunned and outraged after the teen found a gun in school and turned it in to authorities, who then expelled him.

CBS 2's Dana Kozlov reports Ryan Morgan's parents and supporters attended the school board meeting Wednesday evening to try to fight the expulsion. They believe the punishment, and the subsequent alternative school option, are not the proper responses to a mistake made by a teenage boy.

Ryan Morgan, 13, says he pocketed a pellet gun he and a friend found in their school's bathroom to keep people safe. Morgan's mother says a short time later Morgan gave the gun to the Troy Middle School assistant principal.

"I told him maybe that wasn't the best decision, to remove that gun, but it did lead to you finding the culprit, he was arrested and to put my son in alternative school -- he has no behavior problems," Audrey Morgan, Ryan's mother, said.

The Morgans say there was no reasoning with the principal or with the school superintendent.

"He said, 'The board can give your son full two-year expulsion, I'm asking you not to go before them,'" Audrey Morgan said.

They went anyway, saying they had nothing to lose, only to see the meeting minutes already recommend expulsion.

Roy Morgan says he can't accept that, but accepts his son's decision.

"He said 'I'm going to turn this in' and you know what, I commend my son for making that decision. It was the right decision," he said.

School board officials issued a statement Wednesday night saying due to confidentiality reasons they can't discuss the specifics of this case, but that "purposeful possession of weapons is a serious offense and deserves careful consideration by the administration and the school board."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; education; zerocommonsense; zerotolerance
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To: TommyDale

"The idiots are teaching children in the public school system?"

Even in relatively sane communitiies public schools are islands of chronic mental illness.


21 posted on 12/14/2006 9:44:20 AM PST by achilles2000 (Shouting "fire" in a burning building is doing everyone a favor...whether they like it or not)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The stupidity of PC America again.


22 posted on 12/14/2006 9:45:27 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I don't march to other people's opinion of me or my beliefs. I march to my beliefs and heart.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Zero Intelligence policies are a tool for lazy gutless administrators to hide behind. There is no law against using common sense. However, kids who are subjected to such nonsense are marked for life. Thirteen years old is too early to learn that life is so unfair.


23 posted on 12/14/2006 9:46:11 AM PST by Brownie63
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Those cretins have no concept of the messages they're giving our children. Pathetic.


24 posted on 12/14/2006 9:46:48 AM PST by Lady Jag (Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid)
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To: dfwgator
>>"You're gonna shoot your eye out, kid."

I'm sorry, you made me post this: http://www.dontshootyoureyeout.com/

Merry Christmas everybody!
25 posted on 12/14/2006 9:51:23 AM PST by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is IL so this cowardly behaviour around guns is expected but the over-the-top silliness could happen anywhere. The school site is here.
26 posted on 12/14/2006 9:51:29 AM PST by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I can understand if they don't want children touching weapons, even if they find them (accidents do happen), but expulsion is so grossly disproportionate the board can't be taken as a serious group of adults.


27 posted on 12/14/2006 9:57:09 AM PST by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
My undergraduate school had a policy that, whenever a fire extinguisher was discharged in a dorm, it assessed a fee to have the fire extinguisher recharged, against they guy who did it (if he was known), or against every resident on the floor, if the culprit was unknown.

Probably not a bad policy, given the tendency of intoxicated college boys to discharge chemical fire extinguishers for fun.

The one day we had fire in the dorm. It was found while still small, and rapidly extinguished with fire extinguishers. The school administration, far from handing out kudos for quick action that saved the dorm, handed out bills to have the fire extinguisher's recharged. Because there was no exception to the "fine them for discharged fire extinguishers" policy, for fire extinguishers actually used on a fire.

As H.L. Menkin (I think) said: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of a small mind.

28 posted on 12/14/2006 10:04:50 AM PST by Pilsner
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
That is a school and union in need of a multimillion dollar lawsuit.
29 posted on 12/14/2006 10:07:03 AM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'm thinking Lawsuit......


30 posted on 12/14/2006 10:18:23 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

One example of how rabid, attack dog attorneys can be usefull.
Let em sue, let em sue, let em sue..........


31 posted on 12/14/2006 10:20:47 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Never bring a knife to a gun fight, or a Democrat to do serious work...)
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To: Pilsner
Fair's Fair!

The students should invoice the school for the cost of dischage fee AND the cost of their time. I'd say $1000.00/second for hazard duty pay. Minimum fee for services 15 minutes. Let's see that 900 seconds so that is $900,000.

Given the cost of the dorm its a bargain!

I suggest that for 25% fee Free Republic would be the negotiator and the school could pay Jim a year's worth of Freeper time and effort! Win Win all around!

32 posted on 12/14/2006 10:24:37 AM PST by Young Werther
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To: marktwain
However, there is always another side.

More to this story BUMP.

If you believe this story so far, then, at a minimum, the kid needs to learn a lesson about picking up guns. Maybe not expulsion, but a strong lesson.

33 posted on 12/14/2006 10:40:33 AM PST by TankerKC (When I think about me, I touch myself.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
School board officials issued a statement Wednesday night saying due to confidentiality reasons they can't discuss the specifics of this case, but that "purposeful possession of weapons is a serious offense and deserves careful consideration by the administration and the school board."

Utter stupidity. This attitude is what is killing us.

34 posted on 12/14/2006 10:43:16 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: TankerKC
I heard the kids mother on the radio this morning. She descibed what her son told her happens. From her explaination, it sounds like school officials caught wind of a gun being in the school, they cleared all the girls out of the cafateria, and were preparing to check all the boys for weapons. That's when this kid came forward and addmitted he had found a gun.
So, yes. there is more to this story.
35 posted on 12/14/2006 10:49:36 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Why do I think of South Park and this happening to Butters?


36 posted on 12/14/2006 10:55:57 AM PST by Swiss
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To: jaydubya2
"they cleared all the girls out of the cafateria, and were preparing to check all the boys for weapons. That's when this kid came forward and addmitted he had found a gun."

So, he only came forward *after* he knew he was likely to be searched for weapons?

That would explain a lot.
37 posted on 12/14/2006 11:06:25 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Yes, that's what I thought also. Sounds to me like he new he was going to get busted and offered the weapon up saying "look what I just found".
Complete speculation on my part though.


38 posted on 12/14/2006 11:09:07 AM PST by jaydubya2
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To: marktwain
There is always more to these stories than meets the eye. The school is in a position where it is limited in the amount of information it can release because of privacy restrictions. The mother is free to go any member of the press and say whatever gets her the most sympathy.

Seems like the young man found the pellet gun and intended to keep it until he realised he was caught. Different story than what the mom said.

I'll bet money that even with this revelation, there is more that is not being told that would not put this young man in a good light.

40 posted on 12/14/2006 11:11:26 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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