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Schoolboy Turns in Found 'Weapon', Gets Suspended For Effort
Publius' Forum ^ | 12/14/06 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 12/14/2006 12:25:17 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus

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To: Zack Attack

Yes, if the parents have the time to devote to home schooling, I agree.


51 posted on 12/14/2006 3:53:30 PM PST by Lucky9teen (If someone offers you a penny for your thoughts, tell them "I was thinking how cheap you are")
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To: MortMan

Put the student in charge and he superintendent back to grade school so he can get a clue as to what is going on around him.


52 posted on 12/14/2006 3:54:59 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: SF Republican
Whatever the real story behind this particular zero-tolerance buffoonery is, I would like to think my classmates and I would have reacted creatively to suspension of schoolmates for technical violations of rules like no knives and no guns (butter knives and toy guns.) The word would have gone out for everyone to bring said item on a set date.

Then the principal would either have to suspend most of the students because "that's the policy," set a precedent that discretion can be used when enforcing even a "zero-tolerance" policy, or get the policy revoked. It would be even sweeter to get the principal and board members on the record making statements like, "My hands are tied," "There's nothing I can do," etc.

Thanks for entertaining my little fantasy of rubbing their zero-tolerance noses in it. I feel much better now.

53 posted on 12/14/2006 3:57:20 PM PST by HundredDollars (Your mileage may vary. Not valid in NY or CA.)
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To: Rakkasan1

Based on that we should be able to arrest anyone driving home with a sixpack in the trunk. After all, they have keys and alcohol, and nothing prevents them from using both, so we can take the constructive position that they're already drunk driving.


54 posted on 12/14/2006 4:41:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

correct.some states have "open bottle" laws. IE, they find an uncorked bottle of wine or an empty beer can or bottle anywhere in the cabin of the vehicle...guess what?

"your ass is mine, you'll walk the line..."


55 posted on 12/14/2006 4:53:12 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: Rakkasan1
No, I'm saying unopened and locked in the trunk. I'm just taking the logic of "if you have keys, you're driving" and "if you're under your car in your driveway fixing it, you're driving" "logic" to it's, ahem, logical conclusion.
56 posted on 12/14/2006 5:01:14 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Still Thinking

ah,just shoot them 50 times and call it good.


57 posted on 12/14/2006 5:02:18 PM PST by Rakkasan1 ((Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!))
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To: HitmanLV

"Sue them. Make them lose their jobs. Make the schools pay a fortune for these abuses of power. Force some people into bankruptcy. Take their homes. Ruin their marriages. Make their children cry. Until they suffer a real punishment for abuses of discretion, the abuses will grow more frequent and pronounced. Pain & Pleasure, Reward & Punishment, and all the jazz."

I like the way you think.


58 posted on 12/14/2006 5:10:46 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
I call em like I see them. One of the big deficiencies among conservatives is that they lack a true killer instinct. Their battles with these types of folks is a mismatch.

Things will get worse before they get better. We need a new generation of conservatives with a serious mean streak and willing to use the tools of the left against them, and leave them a (figurative) broken, bankrupt mess.

Of course,by this I only mean to use lawsuits and other legal methods to these ends. Just to be clear, i am not advocating violence.

But, until we start ruining people and marriages, and making their children cry, we will always be at a disadvantage in the culture war.
59 posted on 12/14/2006 5:20:44 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: VRWCmember

Here in Milwaukee - the public school district spends $10-11,000 per student enrolled. I'd be all for having all my kids "unfairly" expelled if they'd even "voucher" me 1/2 for homeschooling. Heck, I'd drop the pellet gun off myself.


60 posted on 12/14/2006 5:32:02 PM PST by sbMKE
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To: jaydubya2

I used to be a cop at a High School in L.A. My last arrest was nearly identical to this. A teacher came to me and said she thought she saw a gun in the bushes. Went to look and nothing was there.

5 minutes later one of my campus aides told me a student told him another student was showing off a gun in class to the back of the room.

Went and grabbed him up. Had a useless Ruger-style pistol-- nearly rusted shut. He told me a bully took him to the gun and threatened to "kick his a--" if he didn't take the gun. Said he was gonna turn it in to me after school. His dad was mad at me for arresting his poor son.

As I read this article, I knew there was more to the story. I'm surprised so many FReepers are willing to believe that the kid did no wrong.


61 posted on 12/14/2006 5:39:52 PM PST by hoppity
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To: Stark_GOP

Two great minds. 8-)


62 posted on 12/14/2006 5:47:47 PM PST by Tinman (Yankee by birth, Texan by Choice..."Support the Troops" shouldn't be just a bumper sticker)
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To: HitmanLV

Hear, hear. I'm so sick of conservatives who think they're fighting Marquia of Queesbury fisticuffs and some more practical liberal comes up and hits 'em in the kidneys with a lead pipe.


63 posted on 12/14/2006 6:01:40 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

It seems to me that the administration believes Ryan may have been the owner of the gun and not have merely found it? Do they have witnesses? Do they have testimony? Do they really think he is lying to them?

In my personal opinion, homebound education is not the same as homeschool. However, either way, I think that maybe for once, they have made the right decision unknowingly and without intention, in favor of homeschool.

Homebound status gets you a personal tutor, paid for by the district, who is usually a classroom teacher in the ps system who has volunteered to teach special needs cases. These special needs cases, I believe, are usually children who are too sick to physically go to school (children with lukemia come to mind).

Does anyone else have knowledge about this? Correct me if I'm wrong, because I really do not know if this is what was meant in the article.


64 posted on 12/14/2006 6:17:16 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Mobile Vulgus

No good deed goes unpunished.


65 posted on 12/14/2006 6:18:51 PM PST by sport
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To: Still Thinking

It's time to get mean.


66 posted on 12/14/2006 6:20:37 PM PST by HitmanLV (Rock, Rock, Rock and Rollergames! Rockin' & Rolling, Rockin' with Rollergames!)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

He touched a gun. He's contaminated and has to be kept away from the other children or it will spread.


67 posted on 12/14/2006 6:26:18 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
What's wrong with busting the public school monopoly?

Nothing at all. Homeschooling has typically been done at the parents own expense. Paying for the homeschooling of a kid they suspended could really open a whole can of worms. I know it's pretty contoversial among the homeschool community.

68 posted on 12/14/2006 6:29:08 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jaydubya2
they cleared all the girls out of the cafeteria, and were preparing to check all the boys for weapons.

Sexual profiling!

69 posted on 12/14/2006 6:32:26 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: metmom

Yes, it is. I for one would like there to be some sort of resolution, afterall, they are my taxes as well as everyone else's. Vouchers are a nice way to say "laundered" in my opinion. I would rather the money be in the form of a local tax deduction or credit. That way, the money never gets put into the education pool in the first place. Of course, that would also mean that I'd have to start paying state taxes (Texas currently does not have a state income tax). So while that idea is nice, it really doesn't work either.

In Texas, homeschools are legally considered private schools. If all public education were privatized, and all particpants paid what they annually pay in taxes to their school of choice each year, that might work. Then again, you have so many renters that would be denied an education.

There has to be a doable compromise in there somewhere, where my tax money actually goes to my child's education instead of little bits of it to everyone's children.


70 posted on 12/14/2006 6:43:16 PM PST by Peanut Gallery
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Why is this a good deed? Perhaps the student should have alerted a teacher or administrator. Suppose it was more of a weapon, loaded and very dangerous particularly to a child who is not aware of gun safety.


71 posted on 12/14/2006 8:41:55 PM PST by myrabach
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To: Peanut Gallery

My dauther was on homebound education the last half of her senior year. It was not homeschooled. She did have several tutors (different subjects) who came to our house, reviewed her work and gave more assignments. Quite different from homeschooling. She was able to attend all school functions and graduate with her class.


72 posted on 12/14/2006 8:46:29 PM PST by myrabach
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Just look where it happened. The parents should sue the hell out of that school board if the kid is not in the wrong.And yes you should be able to sue people for being stupid.


73 posted on 12/14/2006 8:47:56 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: VRWCmember

"I think the author in his zeal to be critical has got something wrong here. The school district does NOT receive funding for this kid's education if he is not there, so in effect the taxpayers are NOT paying double for his education."

You may be right that the school itself may not get the money, but taxes do NOT go down relative to the students!! The taxes only go UP, not down!

So, the taxpayers ARE paying double and that was the point.


74 posted on 12/14/2006 11:31:46 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: metmom
"Paying for the homeschooling of a kid they suspended could really open a whole can of worms."

That's a good point. It's effectively rewarding bad behaviour. Vouchers for everyone would be much better.
75 posted on 12/15/2006 1:32:58 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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