Skip to comments.EUROPEAN SEX SURVEY - Teens from Germany, Iceland Ditch Virginity Early
Posted on 12/15/2006 6:32:58 AM PST by Atlantic Bridge
German kids like their sex. A survey of European teen sex habits has found that only pubescents from Iceland are quicker to jump in the sack. But when it comes to safety, the Dutch are tops.
The casual observer in Germany might be forgiven for thinking the Germans are oversexed. Pornographic cinemas and blush-inducing sex shops are a familiar part of the urban landscape, while exposed breasts are a common sight on advertising billboards and magazine covers.
With all that stimulating material around, it's not surprising that young Germans apparently have sex on the brain. A newly-released World Health Organization (WHO) report on sexual habits among teenagers in 26 European countries reveals that German teens are quick off the mark when it comes to losing their cherry; the average age at which Germans -- both boys and girls -- first have sex is 16.2.
(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...
Do not get me wrong. I don't want to provoke anybody here, but I feel the widening gap between European and American values and behaviour. Anyway this issue could make a interesting discussion.
Western Europe Ping!
Hehe! I carry the burden to be a European each day that God gives.
That pretty well sums it up.
Even though it's still early, can we give you the award for
Pithy Comment of the Day!
"Furthermore I do not want my kids to sign such stuff since I do not understand why the public is interested into such really private decisions."
Why are europeans so intolerant of people who choose not to be ruled by their hormones? Sex is an important part of life but there is more to life. A little mystery adds to the spice rather than the reverse.
"I (and many other Europeans) have the impression that the social pressue that is carried out in this field by some groups is just another form of sick perversion."
Encouraging behavior that lessens the chances of unplanned pregnancy, disease, and emotional stress is a "sick perversion"? Promiscuity is not a positive thing.
You are not European.......There is no such country.......
My ancestors are from Norwegia!
It is indeed slightly safer to be a top.
I never said that. But the issue is something to be shared inside the family and not in the public.
Strike "homosexuals" and insert "child molesters" or "arab terrorists" or even "burglars" in your comment "...I do not care about their way of living as long as they do not affect my own sphere."
Here's the deal: you either make moral choices and judgments in your own life, or you don't.
Europeans have long demonstrated that they don't:
I don't think the unimpeded rise of Nazism and the accompanying anti-Semitism was just some anomalous case.
It must be really interesting to find out that Europe exists. Somehow a reversed Colombus dejà vu. Congratulations to this experience!
The best of Europe, as I like to say, found itself in one of three places..
From a health standpoint-morals aside-having multiple sexual partners causes all sorts of disease. What has the sexual revolution given us-teenage pregnancy, herpes and of course aids-not to mention elevated levels of cervical cancer because of a sexually transmitted virus.
Of course there is an emotional side to sex. A 15 year old boy I know just tried to kill himself because of a relationship gone bad. Underage kids are certainly neither emotionally nor physically ready for sexual intimacy. No one of any age benefits from unbridled promiscuity.
Personally, I don't find anything wrong with "European values" as long as they stay in Europe. I think diversity among different countries/continents is a good thing, but want America to stay the way it has been (conservative). Won't be any fun if we are all the same!
Have a friend from Eastern Europe who always says America should emulate Europe and the security blanket most European countries provide its citizens (healthcare, job guarantees, etc). I know I am generalizing. My point to her was that America chooses overall greater riches and higher risk over safety and security combined with less riches.
Neither is right, neither is wrong; let's keep our cultures and societies the way they are, otherwise we lose our very identities.
"I never said that. But the issue is something to be shared inside the family and not in the public."
I'm not affiliated with any of those groups but from what I have heard there are two reasons they make it public. One is to reduce the peer pressure on those who choose not to have sex. There is tremendous pressure on kids in the US to have sex in order to 'fit in' and 'be cool'. The second is that people are much more likely to meet a commitment they have publically stated vs one they made to themselves.
Teen promiscuity is not a "family issue" to be shared...it IS a problem that more and more parents here in the USA are willing to stop before it begins. If Euro parents (or shall I say "genetic material donors?") are NOT willing to exercise their parental authority and responsibilty, then it's not surprising to see Europe slowly dying and turning into Eurabia.
Your choice, though. Just don't complain when your kids come home with unwanted pregnancies or STDs.
I agree with you that Americans can seem to be a bit hypocritical about sex and sexuality---we're interested in it, of course, but we seem to be a bit ashamed of our interest in it at the same time---at least that's the public appearance of things. Europeans seem to think sex and sexuality is something to be celebrated and discussed openly, while Americans seem to think it's something best kept private.
It's OK. When the Muslims take over they will put sexual relations at the top of your agenda. I think Europe has far more to be worried about than sexual promiscuity.
You sound more like a liberal to me. No wonder Germany is such a mess when all sexual morality has all but been abandoned.
Legalized prostitution has lead to rampant sex trafficking and the spread of STDs in your nation. Is acceptance of consensual pedophilia next? Bestiality?
Oh we do make our moral choices. I simply see no sense to force my kids into a public soul striptease for the emotional auto erotic of some "concerned" groups. That is a issue the family and not the church, society or whatever.
"But the issue is something to be shared inside the family and not in the public."
Agreed, which is why we don't want ads of half-naked 14 year olds groping each-other hanging outside our mall at Abercrombie & Fitch. I also don't want my daughter to see teens feeling each other up at the local Dairy Queen. I definitely don't want her being taught sex-ed the way it was taught at my school ("you will know when the time is right", "pretend the banana is your penis").
Again, not saying your point-of-view is wrong, but let America be America.
Europe is NOT a country, even though you folks have been trying hard to make it so. The EU is a collection of separate national entities that is slowly (or not so slowly) being dominated by the countries at the bottom of the morality barrel (France, Netherlands, Germany.)
It is refreshing to see the Brits resist, but even there, the morality is slipping, and the Muslims are taking over.
What's the age of consent in Germany, anyway? In the states, many of these kids would be considered rape victims.
I'm frankly surprised the Icelandic tourism industry hasn't capitalized on this.
Also, it's ironic that Germany is so sex saturated, but the fertility rate is WAY down. That sounds like a nation that has embraced the Culture of Death--as defined by our magnificent German Pope, Benedict XVI.
As far as I know - 14.
Honestly, have you ever thought of the idea that some of your forefathers did not leave their homes based on a free decision? Can you imagine that Europe was more developed than America even in the early last century, and that living in New York was almost as bad as living in New Delhi or Bombay is today? No, America got its advantage through Europe´s bad luck of having had two world wars on its soil. No wonder the best skilled people of Europe chose to escape from this place. Don´t be proud of your forefathers decisions, you cannot be proud of that! You can just be proud for what you´ve accomplished and achieved in your lives. What are you going to say to people who had not the luck to live in such nice countries we live in? That they cannot be proud of their lives? Your thoughts seem strange to me.
Thank you for participating in what I believe is a largely American web cite. I welcome your views.
What people do in the privacy of their own homes does affect the public sphere because people participate in both areas (private and public life). If you decide to experiment with bisexuality, for example, in the privacy of your own home because your school has taught you that this is all right, this may affect your vote on, say, gay marriage years later. If two lesbians have children, they may easily demand that school children be taught that it's entirely acceptable to deny a boy a father. There is no such a thing as an education which is "values neutral". The public sphere is a continuation of the private sphere and the private sphere reflects the public sphere. This is one of the points mentioned in the article.
Europeans may be off the mark quicker when it comes to sex, but their declining aging populations do not bode well for their societies. The young must bear the cost burden of overly generous social welfare systems. The need to import foreign labor is sowing the seeds of present and future discord. Unemployment rates hover around 10% for many countries. Europe is dying, but the sex is great.
14, but only if the parents agree that the teenager has a relationship with the partner. With the age of 16, teenagers may consent to sexual activities without the parental approval.
That is an incorrect way to portray it. Both the kids having sex and the public displays come from the same root cause -- that sex and/or the human body isn't seen as dirty or sinful in Germany.
In the states, even 4-years old kids are punished for sexual molestion.
Another case for the moderators...
Let's say that one lives in Germany or France, and decides to have a family, but at the same time one is aware of the ever-increasing proportion on Islamists in the population. What better way is there to inocculate your children (girls) against the very big possibility that they will be raped by an Islamist or group of Islamists, than to encourage early and frequent sexuality? I contend that it is more a defense mechanism than evidence of enlightenment or intellectual superiority. They certainly don't have many guns.
The age of consent in most states of the USA is 16 (in some, it's lower.)
Here in America (California, at least) the courts have ruled that parents do not have a right to limit such indoctrination or query. The US Supreme Court refused their appeal.
Complete control over what is taught (11-28-05)
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco recently issued a wake-up call to parents in the case of Fields v. Palmdale School District. Judge Stephen Reinhardt, writing for the court, ruled that though parents have a fundamental right to decide whether to send their child to a public school, they do not have a general right to direct how the school teaches their child. The case before the court that led to this ruling centered on a survey that asked several public schoolchildren invasive questions about sex. The parents argued that the school should not have allowed their children to be asked these questions. The parents, however, had given their consent by signing a form that included the following statement provided by the school district: "I understand answering questions may make my child feel uncomfortable. If this occurs, then ... the research study coordinator, will assist us in locating a therapist for further psychological help if necessary."
I gather by your profile that you are German. So am I, along with English, Scottish, Irish, and Filipino (only in America, can this happen?). But I am an American first and foremost. I have been to Germany a couple of times, working under contract to your Government. People say nationalism is bad. I don't. It is only bad if taken to extremes across national boundaries...............
Thanks - I appreciate your comments. Others, not so much. :)
Norwegia?.........That explains a lot of things about you.......;^)
You Americans should be careful because your own birth rate is also in decline since many years. Maybe you live 25 years longer but then...
Welcome in the Club!
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