Brutally Honest (Apocalypto)

The Weekly Standard ^ | 12/15/06 | Sonny Bunch

[Dead Dog]

Whatever inchoherent, contradicting, clusters of fact that can be assembled to make communism sound good are what they will teach/preach

[AUsome Joy]

I talked to someone from Guatemala who saw this film. They are very familiar with Mayan culture and they loved the movie. The gore didn't bother them. I think I want to see this movie. "Braveheart" was my favorite movie.

[Valin]

Of the two, I'll take the "naturalistic materialists". At least you can talk facts to them, 1+1 still equals 2 to them. Whereas with those in the humanities departments, they'd accuse you of being judgmental and dogmatic.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Nothing cheers me more than the sound of Leftists whining.

Wonder why Gibson didn't avoid the anachronism by making the movie about the Aztecs who were at the height of their civilization when the Spanish arrived.

[justshutupandtakeit]

And the patient kept slipping off the table and falling hundreds of feet sans heart.

[Centurion2000]

One of the primary objections to "Apocalypto" put forth by film critics is that it is overly violent.

Meanwhile the critics like movies like SAW I,II&III, Black Christmas (WTF??) and other lovely movies about maniacs slicing, dicing and killing even more wantonly than a Mayan thoracic ripper priest hopped up on chocolate cocaine sauce.

[Reeses]

the sound of Leftists whining.

Modern leftists think every film should be a propaganda film. They love paying for propaganda to shore up their shaky beliefs, to vent their envy, and exercise their vanity.

Old movies were made for their entertainment value. The change to pushing leftism seemed to really take off in the 1980s. Maybe it was a response to the Ronald Reagan years. Sitting through movies just isn't as entertaining anymore.

[Vision]

Can either one of you give me a basic outline of the plot? I don't get the story and the point of the movie.

[karnage]

In Mayan Mexico, inhabitants of a peaceful jungle village are attacked and enslaved by warlike city dwellers. The hero manages to hide his very pregnant wife in a dry well before he himself is captured. The city dwellers, their culture in crisis, offer their captives as gruesome human sacrifices to the gods they feel have abandoned them. The hero manages to escape, and is pursued.

The film features stunning imagery, imaginative production design, striking actors, and exciting action. There are also fascinating themes to consider in this violent but gripping and daringly original thriller.

[FreedomPoster]

Good morning. "Julia Guernsey, an assistant professor in the department of art and art history at the University of Texas"

Isn't a Guernsey a cow?

Yes

[chuckles]

When I was in the 6th grade I wrote a report on the local Indian tribe of my area. They turned out to be cannibals. They seemed to be more backward than portrayed in any other medium. I was used to cowboys and Indian movies and had visited reservations on vacation. These were more like something from Africa and cave men days. It is probably so politically incorrect today, the Karankawa's will probably be forgotten. They didn't seem noble to me. From what I could tell, they deserved to be wiped out.

[FreedomPoster]

And here's an interview with her. She's a whiner from the get-go.


'Apocalypto' is an insult to Maya culture, one expert says
A history professor explains where Mel Gibson got it very, very wrong
http://www.austin360.com/movies/content/shared/movies/stories/2006/12/history.html

[Yardstick]

That's what I'm thinking, too. The stuff about the film being about the decay of civilation is just fluff to throw off the libs. What Gibson is really doing is embedding in people's minds a visual argument against the PC notion of a peaceful pre-Christian America. The film is ultimately an apologetic for the civilizing work of the Catholic church.

[Valin]

Ya learn something new every day.

the Karankawa's will probably be forgotten.
Go to Google
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22the+Karankawas+%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=ISO-8859-1&start=0&sa=N

[SuziQ]

And who complained that in Gladiator Ridley Scott showed epic battle scenes and vicious gladiatorial combat instead of teaching us how the aqueducts were built?

POINT!

[SuziQ]

(Julia Guernsey) "I hate it. I despise it. I think it's despicable. It's offensive to Maya people. It's offensive to those of us who try to teach cultural sensitivity and alternative world views that might not match our own 21st century Western ones but are nonetheless valid."

Translation: "I'm royally pi$$ed because someone dares shine the light of truth on the lies we've been peddling in the name of 'cultural sensitivity' for the last 20 years."

[Zionist Conspirator]

Of the two, I'll take the "naturalistic materialists". At least you can talk facts to them, 1+1 still equals 2 to them. Whereas with those in the humanities departments, they'd accuse you of being judgmental and dogmatic.

But how can you trust them when they betray their own principals in their alliance with the post-modern fundies? Do they even really believe in those modern rationalistic principals if they worship the earth and refuse say a word against the demands of "indigenous" activists when the latter attack science and rationality itself?

Something very funny is going on here.

[CWOJackson]

I'll patiently wait till it's in video and available from the library...I won't enrich Gibson with my money.

[Valin]

You know that if you buy the video he'll still get part of your money.

[CWOJackson]

I know, which is why I won't even rent the video. I'll check it out from the library when they obtain it.