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Posted on 12/16/2006 10:36:08 AM PST by Phsstpok

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To: Arrowhead1952

CNN has the BEST Republican of any show...Jon Kyl.

I saw him on Neil Cavuto's show last week...the day that Sen. Bill Nelson was visiting with Assad in Syria.

Kyl didn't mince any words at how disgusted he was.

I hope that he is MORE angry tomorrow..considering the list of MORE Senators doing the exact same thing...and the Syrian newspaper saying that Nelson lied about the Assad said to him.


21 posted on 12/16/2006 1:59:09 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Bahbah

Good Lord, will the propagandists ever stop?


22 posted on 12/16/2006 2:00:00 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Bahbah

Did you wipe your shoes off when you left that site??


23 posted on 12/16/2006 2:01:37 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: OldFriend

I listened to an interview with Lincoln Chafee on NPR last week...

He really opened up about how liberal he really is...and his distaste for Pres. Bush and the war.

He was mayor of some city at one time, and felt that one of his duties was to make sure that those with a "lot" helped those with "little"....

BUT, the most amazing thing he said, was that he went to college at Montana State to get his degree in "Horseshoeing"....and was a blacksmith for awhile...until his father had him go back to Rhode Island...

ROFL!!!


24 posted on 12/16/2006 2:05:44 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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Mark Kilmer has posted his Sunday Morning Talk Shows - preview over at RedState.COM

He has an interesting take in the guest lineup in this excerpt

Okay, the scenario is pretty clear. First, present Gingrich as the face of the Republican Party (MTP), then bring in Colin Powell to demonstrate principled dissent (FTN). Harry Reid gives us the positive message from the Democrats (TW), and Steph gives us Hashimi, the most prominent Iraqi to demand a TIMETABLE. (He avoids the notion of a date certain, however.)

25 posted on 12/16/2006 2:17:06 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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From yesterday's National Review Online Blog:

O'HANLON'S BOSNIAN MODEL FOR IRAQ -- AND IRAQ'S OWN "PLAN B" [Mario Loyola]

In his column today, Cliff suggests that "We ought to consider what Brookings scholar Michael O'Hanlon calls the Bosnian model: Each of Iraq's ethno-religious groups would establish autonomy within a unitary Iraqi state. Oil wealth would be shared by all cooperating and stabilized areas of the country."

The difference between Iraq and Bosnia is that the Bosnian model was instituted after a terrifying campaign of ethnic cleansing had largely run its course, and after the break-up-in-fact of the state and all its institutions along ethnic lines. 

Neither of these have occurred in Iraq yet, and if either ever does, we're going to remember 2006 fondly indeed.  In Iraq you still have a population that is highly mixed and a central government that still represents a broad national coalition.

A "Plan B" now being floated by Iraqis themselves seems to me a better idea, and has the virtue of presuming (unlike most ideas these days) that we can still largely succeed in Iraq.  The idea is to form a coalition of national unity that includes the the largest faction from each of Iraq's three main communities—the Shiite SCIRI (Supreme Council for the Revolution in Iraq), the Sunni Islamic Party, and the two main Kurdish parties—even if the resulting coalition rests on a parliamentary minority.  The idea is to "deputize" the strongest player in each community, and make them a primary political vehicle for laying down the central authority of the state within each community.  This will immediately pit SCIRI against the Sadr Organization, on the one hand, and the Islamic Party against the Sunni insurgents and Al Qaeda, on the the other.

Timed to coincide with the transfer of administrative control of the Iraqi Army to the central government (set to occur by early summer), this could really change things on the ground in Iraq.  The violence might continue, but you would have achieved several vital things: (1) the leading party within each community would have declared its first loyalty to the central government; and (2) the central government will finally have a professional force with which to impose its authority; (3) the logic of sectarian conflict now threatening to tear the country apart would be replaced with the logic of intramural conflict (within the Shiite and Sunni communities) between those who support the state's authority and those who oppose it.

This idea seems the better one to me because it maintains the goal of a strong central government, while the Bosnian model presumes that the central government has collapsed and cannot be reconstituted except in name. 

Posted at 9:58 PM

The plan B stuff is the things I've been hearing about the last couple of days and would be the reason for a temporary surge of US forces to help this new coalition make this stick.  But they'd be helping the Sunni members of the coalition against the Sunni insurgents and Al Qaeda, the Shiite SCIRI folks against Sadr's Shiite militia, etc.  If this is what Bush is working on with the Iraqis, including the head of SCIRI who he met at the White House last week, and they pull it off... hoo boy!

The anti-war / anti-American left and the old school Realpolitik Republican "business as usual" foreign policy crowd have each bet everything on convincing the American people that we've already lost and there's nothing we can do but leave.  But if we succeed....

 

26 posted on 12/16/2006 2:41:29 PM PST by Phsstpok (Often wrong, but never in doubt)
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LOL.....did you know that one of Tizzy Heinz' sons is also horshoe-ing as a profession.

Did Chaffee also disucss his cocaine use, etc.?

27 posted on 12/16/2006 3:31:48 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: OldFriend

Yes he did...he said that he admitted it because "why not?"

He is definitely a naive politician.

He was very naive sounding..and just sounded SO democrat.

I have NO idea why he ever considers himself a Republican, unless his Daddy told him that was what he was...and he is so wimpy he never disagreed.

Another thing that surprised me was his admission that losing the election really bothered him...

One thing that didn't surprise me...he is very proud of not capitulating on Bolton...but, he couldn't give a reason other than he wants the US to rethink it policy re: the Palestinians..


28 posted on 12/16/2006 3:56:46 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Phsstpok
But if we succeed....

That would mean a great success for the US, but it would also mean a great success for President Bush and we just can't have that, so there will have to be a massive, all out push by the media and the dems to see to it that we fail. This could be very ugly.

29 posted on 12/16/2006 4:08:50 PM PST by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser and Shalit, we are praying for you)
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To: Txsleuth

So he stopped short of admitting he is anti-semite as well as not a real Republican?


30 posted on 12/16/2006 4:25:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

LOL...yes, he did. I got the distinct impression that he really didn't care what the GOP felt about him, but he also acted like he just doesn't understand why people don't understand him...

He sounded just like a little child, actually.


31 posted on 12/16/2006 4:43:35 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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To: Txsleuth

Sounds like another Al Gore. Inherited his next in line position in the Senate, so he feels everything is owed him instead of earned.. like Casey in PA, wins on the daddys name.


32 posted on 12/16/2006 4:52:44 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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Of course losing bothered him. He had plans. To jump to the dems, much as Jeffords did, and turn the senate over. No doubt he had promises from Reid! Now he's just a used up old druggie with no purpose or use to anyone.

Yes, his Dad was republican. Chaffee got his seat when Dad died.

33 posted on 12/16/2006 5:03:17 PM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: Phsstpok
Where are Dave Garroway, Jack Lescoulie...

Shhhhhh... you're dating yourself!

34 posted on 12/17/2006 5:39:20 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I din't get a chance to reply, but I did see the last few minutes of the senior baffoon on FNS before I headed for Church. He was and idiot, and I am ashamed that the people from Taxachutstes keep electing him and Skerry.


35 posted on 12/18/2006 6:54:23 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The terrorists have many allies in the United States, especially in the democrat party.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I couldn't bear to watch...


36 posted on 12/18/2006 7:50:54 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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