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The Forgotten Slaves: Whites in Servitude in Early America and Industrial Britain
The Campaign for Radical Truth in History http://www.hoffman-info.com ^ | 1999 | Michael A. Hoffman

Posted on 12/16/2006 6:01:23 PM PST by scouse

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Quite a long rerad....comments????
1 posted on 12/16/2006 6:01:26 PM PST by scouse
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To: scouse

My earliest American ancestors were indentured servants. Where are my reparations?


2 posted on 12/16/2006 6:02:55 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Will you take a self winding Timex watch?


3 posted on 12/16/2006 6:07:00 PM PST by scouse
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The indentured servants who served a tidy little period of 4 to 7 years polishing the master's silver and china and then taking their place in colonial high society, were a minuscule fraction of the great unsung hundreds of thousands of White slaves who were worked to death in this country from the early l7th century onward.

I have read that the average life span of the white servants who came to the New World, until the new society learned to adapt to the new conditions, was about 7 or 8 years. During the 18th Century, however, after the population became acclimated, the population. began to grow at a phenomenal rate. The populastion boombs--among whites and black alike--was surely one cause for the American revolt. And we were healthier. The average American in the continental army was about 2 inches taller than his British counterpart, who, contrary to what has be said were not city dweller pressed into service but usually countrymen like their American opponents.

4 posted on 12/16/2006 6:11:41 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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Hey, if that's the best offer. I could use 40 acres, but I don't want a damn mule.


5 posted on 12/16/2006 6:11:55 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: scouse

I've always been a little irritated that the Brits get a pass on the slave guilt. Many times I hear it from Brits who wish to trash America.

The simple fact is that slavery lasted much longer in the colonies under British rule than it did under American rule.
In my opinion, the Brits only declared the slaves free because they needed a ready made army to fight the revolution.


6 posted on 12/16/2006 6:12:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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Accurate, well-researched historical scholarship presents a different picture.

While indentured servitude existed, it was limited to 7 years for volunteers and 10 years for convicts. In no case was it hereditary.

Some of the convicts had it rough in isolated mining camps and large plantations, but the big market demand was for skilled labor. A good carpenter or bricklayer could get away with a 4-year indenture.

Those who found their deal irksome often ran away. Since they were white and spoke English, they were usually never found.


7 posted on 12/16/2006 6:14:41 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: cripplecreek

The Brits ended slavery(including indentured slaves) in their far flung empire at least 40 years before us; and, they didn't need a war to do it.


8 posted on 12/16/2006 6:17:25 PM PST by verbal voter
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But they let it continue here when they still ruled.


9 posted on 12/16/2006 6:19:46 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: scouse

I was under the impression that indentured servitude was (for the most part) voluntary. Generally, slavery was not something that one volunteered for.


10 posted on 12/16/2006 6:20:06 PM PST by doc1019
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To: scouse
You might be interested to read about the Scottish Covenanters that were among those White slaves. The king dealt with these dissenters by shipping them to America as slaves.
There is a history of the settling of Australia, I think it's titled "DOWN UNDER". It chronicled the virtual enslavement of persons in the military as they were sent on duty to Australia with no means of return.
Thanks for posting the article. Very interesting!
11 posted on 12/16/2006 6:22:15 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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Black trade became popular of over whites is because traders could get more for a black man then a white. White slavery was really popular in New Mexico with the Spanish and a federal law had to be passed that prohibited white slavery in that territory.
12 posted on 12/16/2006 6:23:26 PM PST by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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Thanks for this article!!!

My family history is that when we first came from Germany in 1732, (Rudolf with his wife, two parents, two of his sisters), the sisters were indentured when they arrived to pay for part of the passage. They apparently wre not heard from again.

This is the first confirmation I've had that this was even possible!


13 posted on 12/16/2006 6:25:49 PM PST by FastCoyote
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To: verbal voter

We didn't have a war to do it either, it was a convenient excuse after the war started.


14 posted on 12/16/2006 6:26:49 PM PST by dave48170
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And I hereby further declare all indented servants, Negroes, or others (appertaining to Rebels) free, that are able and willing to bear arms, they joining His Majesty's Troops, as soon as may be, for the more speedily reducing the Colony to a proper sense of their duty, to this Majesty's crown and dignity.

-- Lord Dunmore's Proclamation


15 posted on 12/16/2006 6:29:32 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: ozzymandus

" Hey, if that's the best offer. I could use 40 acres, but I don't want a damn mule. "



I will take your damn mule, then I wll have a team for MY 40 acres


16 posted on 12/16/2006 6:32:32 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: scouse

btt


17 posted on 12/16/2006 6:32:54 PM PST by southland (proverbs 22:7)
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In no case was it hereditary.

If you happened to be born into servitude (parent was the slave), it was hereditary. What else are you going to be allowed to do? White's didn't get an allotment when slavery was "emancipated".

There was also a lot of white slavery/servitude after the civil war. Lots of poor orphans who took the place of freed slaves to have food and shelter. They just happened to be invisible.

18 posted on 12/16/2006 6:36:40 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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The problem was: runaway to where? Certainly not to the frontier, which in 1750 was still a howing wilderness. Nearer the coast land was hard to get. Granted, everywhere better than England where status was more or less fixed for life.


19 posted on 12/16/2006 6:44:44 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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Bigotted hateful thread!
Whites can't muscle in on the victimology of slavery.

Let's get real here.
Cracker propaganda.

Just sayin'...

20 posted on 12/16/2006 6:46:26 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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