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Boy hurt by cannon blast feels twice wounded
Seattlepi.com ^ | December 20, 2006 | CAROL SMITH

Posted on 12/20/2006 12:53:53 PM PST by Kaslin

Accident in football town elicited threats, not get-well wishes

SNOHOMISH -- The cannon shot that ripped into Brett Karch's leg, causing a gaping combat-style wound, has also torn a hole in his hometown community of Snohomish.

Karch, whose leg was nearly amputated and who faces more than a year of physical rehabilitation with an uncertain outcome, has been the target of physical threats because of fears his injury will jeopardize the community's tradition of firing the ceremonial cannon before each high school football game and after touchdowns.

For more than 30 years, the blast of the cherry-red cannon has ignited the roars of fans whenever the home team scored in this football-proud town. With its tree-lined streets, gingerbread-trimmed Victorian houses and hills crested with historic churches, the town is devoted to its traditions, including its beloved cannon, which students in the school's metal shop built after a previous cannon gave out in the mid-1980s.

Football and the cannon were entwined, like popcorn at the movies. And football and Snohomish were even more so.

"Football is a huge part of the community," said Paula McVey, mother of a Snohomish student. "When there's a game on, you can hear it going from anywhere in town."

Shooting off the cannon was the town's salute to the game that launched many notable football careers and entertained generations.

But the shot that nearly took off Brett Karch's leg now leaves the fate of that tradition in the air, and that has upset some in the community.

According to Karch's medical records, security guards notified police after Karch received disturbing phone calls and visits from parents and students, some of whom threatened to "break his other leg" or worse, if he didn't keep quiet about the accident. Hospital staff had to move him to a secure room where they monitored visitors.

Callers and visitors told Karch they would "make sure his other leg got blown off," and that "there would be retaliation" if the family cooperated in an investigation that could end the cannon tradition, said Mary Bissel, Karch's mother. "That's when I kind of got a little upset," Karch said.

The threats also included mention the family would be "banned from the town," Bissell said. She's been warned not to talk to a lawyer, or reporters.

The allegations of threats, as well as the cause of the accident, remain under investigation. Hospital security reported the threats to the Everett Police Department, but police, who came to the hospital to interview Karch and his mother, won't release the incident report, citing the open investigation into the cause of the accident.

Tradition all but gone

The tradition of firing a cannon at football games has all but disappeared in most school districts, which makes this one that much more endearing to its community.

"This one was grandfathered in," said retired Marine Corps. Col. John Mack, who heads the Marine Corps Junior Reserve Officer Training unit at Snohomish High School and is in charge of the squad that fires the cannon. "We're the only school allowed to do it."

Being on the cannon-firing squad was a source of pride for Karch, who joined the ROTC unit last year to help him toward his longtime goal of becoming a Marine. Karch, a lanky, personable 16-year-old, had hoped to do Special Forces reconnaissance work one day.

"Brett wanted to serve his country," said Bissel. "Now we're just hoping he will be able to use his leg. I never imagined this would happen on a football field."

On Oct. 6 -- the night of the Snohomish Panthers big homecoming game against rival Everett High School -- Karch prepared as usual for the firing of the cannon.

He helped roll the coffee table-sized artillery piece to the field where he and two other cadets packed the barrel with about 5 ounces of gunpowder.

With 10 seconds to go before the game, Cadet Alex Brown, 18, the officer in charge of the firing team, began the countdown.

The other cadets stood at attention except Karch, who leaned in, finger at the ready.

"Fire," Brown commanded. Karch pulled the trigger.

The boom, which normally rattled the bleachers, was louder than usual, witnesses said.

The concussion temporarily deafened Brown, who couldn't see through the smoke for several seconds. When the smoke cleared, he saw Karch lying on the ground clutching his left leg.

"I almost thought he was joking, and I going to yell at him, 'It's not funny,' " said Brown. Then he heard Karch's screams.

The cannon was blown apart. Pieces of it landed 30 feet away, some even touching down in the end zone.

"My leg went flying, and I fell on my right side," said Karch. "Kids were staggering around. I looked at my leg and felt it burning."

"Did it blow my leg off, is my leg still attached?" he recalled asking the closest cadet to him. But the deafened student couldn't hear him.

Within seconds, medics and senior officers sprinted to his side. The team of emergency medical technicians standing by in the event of a football injury rushed Karch into a waiting ambulance.

The priority on the playing field, however, was the game, which didn't stop as Karch was carried off the sidelines to an ambulance, witnesses said.

Not much can stop football in this town, where the pride runs deep. The two-time state champions have generated many notable players and coaches over the years. Dick Armstrong was known as the "winningest coach in Washington state high school football history" by the time he retired in 1994. In his 32 seasons as head coach at Snohomish, Armstrong, who died in 1999, racked up 243 wins and won or shared 16 league titles, including 13 in a row.

As play continued, Karch was taken to Providence Everett's Colby Campus, where doctors initially told his stunned mother they weren't sure they could save his leg. Karch has since undergone three surgeries to implant a titanium rod the length of his shin to replace the decimated bone and to graft skin over the shredded tissue. In February, doctors plan to graft bone from his hip into his leg to help it heal.

"My leg was in so many pieces, it was like a jigsaw puzzle," said Karch.

"If this had happened to a football player, you can be sure he would have been airlifted to Harborview," said one parent of a ROTC member, who asked not to be named for fear of reprisals.

Brown, too, was shocked and later angered by the apparent lack of concern for the seriousness of Karch's injury.

Rumors circulated almost immediately among students that Karch must have packed the cannon incorrectly, and some of the cards and comments have suggested that he deserved what happened to him.

Karch said he didn't do anything different that night, a view shared by his ROTC leader Mack, the retired Marine Corps colonel, who said the team follows military protocols for loading and firing the cannon.

Mack had the cannon X-rayed earlier this year. Fred Langer, an attorney representing the family, said those results showed a stress fracture in the metal, although it's not clear yet whether that had any bearing on the explosion.

No decision has been made yet about whether to acquire a new cannon to ensure the tradition continues, said Snohomish High School Principal Diana Plumis.

"We're certainly not getting that one back," she said. "It was obliterated."

No friends at party

That's what seems to worry many of those who have contacted Karch, who has gotten cards indicating the tradition of the cannon is too important to lose.

"Football wouldn't be the same without the big boom at kickoff," wrote one student in a get-well card.

The reaction of some community members has taken the family and its supporters aback.

"Snohomish is usually a pretty tight community," Brown said. "Usually when something like this happens, groups come together. But that didn't happen this time."

Since his discharge from the hospital on Oct. 23, Karch has had only three visitors -- two of them Mack and Brown. And despite invitations to school friends, not a single person other than family attended his 16th birthday celebration in November, Bissell said.

Bissel suspects some of the reaction may be because she retained a lawyer to help her understand legal forms the school district asked her to sign after the accident. She has not filed any legal claims against the school or the district. According to Langer, the school district has been cooperative and has said it plans to establish a fund to pay for Karch's medical expenses.

What Bissel wants for her son, though, is the emotional support of the community they've lived in for a decade.

On a recent school day afternoon, Karch, who has not been able to attend regular classes since the accident, rode past his old school in a cabulance on his way to an Everett clinic for a weekly changing of the thick dressings that wrap his wounds. Kids had spilled out of the school, and he tried to wave to Brown, who drove by.

Karch said later he wondered whether the kids milling around even realized that he was in the ambulance van going by.

The persistent hostility, and loss of friendships, make him sad, but he's trying not to dwell on it.

He's working hard during weekly physical and occupational therapy sessions, hoping to regain enough function to qualify for the military.

McVey has tried rallying support for Karch's family by raising money for dinners. Her initial attempts raised $200, nearly all of it coming from schools other than Karch's own.

The lack of response still puzzles her.

"You have a kid here who's lost part of his leg, who may always have a rod in it," she said. "Where's the compassion? How would these guys feel if it were their son? Would the cannon really matter?"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: cannon; football
This is horrible
1 posted on 12/20/2006 12:53:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
I hope nobody in Snohomish goes around telling people that the people of Snohomish are Christians or Americans.

Treating a severely injured JROTC volunteer like this is a ******* disgrace.

2 posted on 12/20/2006 12:57:03 PM PST by wideawake (1)
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To: Kaslin
What a bunch of friggin morons. They should take the cannon away just due to their behavior...
3 posted on 12/20/2006 12:57:43 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Kaslin

""including its beloved cannon, which students in the school's metal shop""

16 year olds firing canons built by 16 year olds.

Uh...no.


4 posted on 12/20/2006 12:58:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: 2banana

I agree. This town doesn't desearve to have the cannon the way they are acting. Screw em.


5 posted on 12/20/2006 1:02:03 PM PST by Domandred
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To: Kaslin

A cannon made in a HS metal shop? WTF?

We've got a "cannon" that we fire at Scout Camp during evening retreat. It's a 3 foot long 4" ID pipe on wheels with a firing mechanism for a shotgun shell blank at the bottom end; a 2.5 dram load. What kind of charge were they putting into this cannon that would blow it up the way they describe here?


6 posted on 12/20/2006 1:02:50 PM PST by RonF
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To: Kaslin

"the town is devoted to its traditions, including its beloved cannon, which students in the school's metal shop built after a previous cannon gave out in the mid-1980s."

Time to crank up the old metal shop.


7 posted on 12/20/2006 1:03:43 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Kaslin

"Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?"


8 posted on 12/20/2006 1:04:19 PM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: RonF

Supposedly, 5 ounces of gunpowder.


9 posted on 12/20/2006 1:04:47 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Kaslin

Man...talk about a town with no heart! This is sickening.


10 posted on 12/20/2006 1:06:18 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Kaslin

A town full of Idiots.


11 posted on 12/20/2006 1:06:55 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: RonF
He helped roll the coffee table-sized artillery piece to the field where he and two other cadets packed the barrel with about 5 ounces of gunpowder.
12 posted on 12/20/2006 1:08:41 PM PST by wideawake (1)
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To: Kaslin
No decision has been made yet about whether to acquire a new cannon to ensure the tradition continues, said Snohomish High School Principal Diana Plumis

Why hasn't he sued the school for millions of dollars?

13 posted on 12/20/2006 1:08:48 PM PST by mjp
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To: mjp

He would be justified to


14 posted on 12/20/2006 1:10:13 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Some people in that town have some seriously !@#$ed-up priorities. A cannon made in the school's metal shop, loaded with 5 ounces of gunpowder? I'd say he'd have a good, and justified, case for bringing suit against the school. Like maybe there's a good reason they got rid of the cannons used at most schools?


15 posted on 12/20/2006 1:13:10 PM PST by -YYZ-
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To: Kaslin

"Mack had the cannon X-rayed earlier this year. Fred Langer, an attorney representing the family, said those results showed a stress fracture in the metal, although it's not clear yet whether that had any bearing on the explosion."

What's the point of doing the x-ray if you ignore the results? Could make the top ten list of stupidest decisions of 2006.


16 posted on 12/20/2006 1:14:11 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: 2banana
What really got me was this part

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According to Karch's medical records, security guards notified police after Karch received disturbing phone calls and visits from parents and students, some of whom threatened to "break his other leg" or worse, if he didn't keep quiet about the accident. Hospital staff had to move him to a secure room where they monitored visitors.

-- snip --

17 posted on 12/20/2006 1:14:37 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The priority on the playing field, however, was the game, which didn't stop as Karch was carried off the sidelines to an ambulance....leg was in so many pieces, it was like a jigsaw puzzle

A child horribly disfigured and bleeding out from a massive explosion, but for God's sake DON'T STOP THE GAME. Oh yeah, and be sure to ostracize him and have him physically threatened afterwards.

I'd think I'd get a good chuckle if a massive sink hole opened up under this town.

18 posted on 12/20/2006 1:18:35 PM PST by Sax
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To: Kaslin
I've been involved in black powder Artillery and special effects for 10 years. There are two obvious ways the cannon blew up. They used XXX powder instead of X or Cannon grade. XXX is like salt and used in black powder pistols - X and Cannon grade is like pea gravel. The finer the grade, the faster the explosion. It still depends how it's packed in the barrel. Usually, the charge is measured out and poured into an aluminum foil container, placed just inside the barrel and gently tamped to the back of the breech.

IF there was nothing blocking the charge, the barrel shouldn't exploded. Even if the loader had tamped the charge in hard, 5 oz. of black powder shouldn't blow the barrel. We commonly used 5 and 6 oz. charges, but we didn't have any metal shop cannons either. Paulson Bros. 10 lb. Parrot Rifles or Mtn. Howitzers. 1/4 " steel barrel liners.

Not enough information on the cannon itself - material, dimensions, construction details.

Frankly, it's lucky they weren't all killed.

19 posted on 12/20/2006 1:35:01 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Sax
"Football wouldn't be the same without the big boom at kickoff," wrote one student in a get-well card.

For one, there wouldn't be any wounded, disfigured JROTC volunteers. What fun would that be? I hope the author of that card loses some sleep over his remarks.

20 posted on 12/20/2006 1:37:33 PM PST by highimpact
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To: Kaslin

This is one village that's not missing any idiots.


21 posted on 12/20/2006 1:41:00 PM PST by OB1kNOb (The American military does not lose wars. The American politician, however, does.)
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To: Kaslin

Yea... BUT if this kid enlists this will be good training for getting wounded and having the country spit on you.


22 posted on 12/20/2006 1:45:47 PM PST by Eyes Unclouded (We won't ever free our guns but be sure we'll let them triggers go....)
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To: Kaslin

I get to the end of this and think there has to be more to the story than this. People really care more about a stupid cannon than a kid who nearly lost his leg?

I'm just having a hard time believing it. "Football wouldn't be the same without the big boom at kickoff." Give me a break. I've been to games that had cannons and they were kind of cool, but I've been to plenty of games without them and the thought didn't even cross my mind that there was no cannon.

(I'm sure the ones I did see were NOT made by some knuckleheads in the schools metal shop.)

The family should get on with it and sue the school. What's the worst that could happen - everyone could hate them? It sounds like they already have that, and with the losers in that town, it's probably no great loss. (At least now they know who their friends aren't.)


23 posted on 12/20/2006 1:45:53 PM PST by Gil4 (This tagline for rent - cheap!)
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To: Gil4

It looks like they are certain he did something wrong, on purpose, and that was why the cannon blew up. And now I'm guessing his family is saying they should stop the cannon.

That would be the first step to a lawsuit. Once you get the school to agree that the cannon IS a bad idea and shouldn't be used, you sue saying the cannon WAS a bad idea and they should have known better.

I think that's why people are upset with them. I'm just guessing, because there aren't enough facts to know the truth.


It is surprising that the cannon exploded if it was only packed as they say and wasn't sealed in any way. Even IF it had a hairline fracture.

Mythbusters used a much larger charge to blow up their wooden cannon.


24 posted on 12/20/2006 1:56:35 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kaslin

Small town losers and hicks. Punks. Thugs. Jerks. They and their football team can rot in Hell for all I care.

Usually I am against most lawsuits over accidents. In this case, though, he and his family should sue that school out of existance. Or at least break their bank account so they never play another oh-so-precious football game again.

(And this from a die-hard OSU Buckeyes fan. Frankly, such low class people spit on everything good sportsmanship and teams stand for with their abject stupidity and boorishness.)


25 posted on 12/20/2006 1:56:42 PM PST by piytar
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To: Kirkwood
What's the point of doing the x-ray if you ignore the results? Could make the top ten list of stupidest decisions of 2006.

Ignoring evidence of a stress fracture and allowing those kids to stuff black powder into that cannon is not merely stupid, it's *criminally negligent*, IMO. Here is a pic of the cannon, before it turned into a fragmentation grenade:


26 posted on 12/20/2006 1:58:41 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Kaslin
This case reminds me of a story I read back in the 1980s. A bus was carrying a football team and some other students to a big game at another high school. While en route, some of the football players thought it would be fun to sexually assault one of the girls. She went to law enforcement. I believe her identity due to her age was supposed to be withheld, but it became common knowledge in her community. As a result, not only did she become the school pariah and the object of constant abuse from other students, but many adults in her town harassed her as well-including threatening phone calls. Seems to many of the so-called adults in that town, the thought of the football team's performance being hurt as a result of the star players being kicked off the team was far more important than a girl being assaulted. Finally, she committed suicide-at the age of 15.Her suicide note listed the abuse she had been subjected to-and at the hands of adults, over freaking high school football.

There are some people who have truly sick, warped priorities. Caring more about a stupid cannon than a boy's leg-I honestly thought thinking football "stars" had the right to commit assault on underage girls was the sickest thing sports obsession had ever led to, but I was proven wrong today.

27 posted on 12/20/2006 2:00:37 PM PST by Verloona Ti
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To: CharlesWayneCT

When Mythbusters used 6 oz of powder (remember these guys were using 5 oz), it shot a tennis ball, and a solid granite ball, without any damage at all to their tree cannon, or apparently to the tennis ball.

When they put 5 POUNDS of explosives in the cannon and SEALED it, they completely destroyed their cannon.


28 posted on 12/20/2006 2:03:17 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: justshutupandtakeit
A town full of Idiots

That is an insult to idiots everywhere. These people are worse.
29 posted on 12/20/2006 2:16:30 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: Kaslin

What a sh_tty town!

Sounds like something the people in Massilon, Ohio, would do.


30 posted on 12/20/2006 2:18:22 PM PST by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Bump for Later!


31 posted on 12/20/2006 2:26:11 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Kaslin

"Since his discharge from the hospital on Oct. 23, Karch has had only three visitors -- two of them Mack and Brown."

I'd like to at least think that the third visitor was some representative from the school(like the principal) expressing all kinds of anguish over this poor boy's plight, both physical and emotional. Somehow though, I doubt that's the case.


32 posted on 12/20/2006 2:29:05 PM PST by Mila
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To: muleskinner

Read the OP and comments. NDT revealed a flaw. Who gives a snit for your personal anecdotes, two even are not 'data'.

Either we are equal or we are not. Good people ought to be armed where they will, with wits and guns. Merry Christmas


33 posted on 12/20/2006 2:32:25 PM PST by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Kaslin
The cannon blows up in front of hundreds of people or more, he is screaming, the ambulance takes him away in front of the whole crowd, and somebody tells him to "keep quiet about the accident"???

Somebody's half a bubble off plumb.

34 posted on 12/20/2006 2:32:50 PM PST by ZGuy
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To: Shermy
which students in the school's metal shop built after a previous cannon gave out in the mid-1980s.

Wonder if they teach them how to make zip guns in case they get a job in the prison laundry?

35 posted on 12/20/2006 2:34:16 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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To: reagan_fanatic

True, apparently most of the town should not be allowed anywhere close to firearms not to mention cannons.


36 posted on 12/20/2006 2:42:07 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

However, the school cannon that blew up was made in the school's metal shop in the 1980's, therefore being at least 17 years old up to 26, and then therefore possibly fired thousands of times, while the natural acts of corrosion and accumulative use took its toll. Nothing against Mythbusters, but they didn't fire the thing for years, either. Apples and oranges.


37 posted on 12/20/2006 2:43:14 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Kaslin

Bunch of idiots in this town. High school football is probably so popular because the city's residents don't know that college exists.


38 posted on 12/20/2006 2:47:26 PM PST by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: muleskinner
Not enough information on the cannon itself - material, dimensions, construction details.

I think the stress fracture says it all. They should have immediately stopped using the cannon after that was discovered.

39 posted on 12/20/2006 2:54:09 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

"Who gives a snit for your personal anecdotes..." Conversly, who gives a $hit for your attitude? Personal knowledge, along with published articles, is what makes FR what it is. Your pissant attitude does not fit in well.


40 posted on 12/20/2006 3:01:58 PM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: Kaslin

It used to be schools across the country had access to excessed military cannons for this sort of thing. These things were built to fire real projectiles and could certainly stand up to this sort of use.

But all military cannons in civilian control have been neutralized. Most have had their barrels filled with concrete, as required by law. This leaves no cannons to fire for ceremonial purposes. As a result, this school wound up building it's own.

Not real smart. Cannon building is not a job for amatuers. Many people have been killed by exploding cannons over the centuries, and the technology included in military cannons was paid for, time and again, in blood. But all that was thrown out the window so we could all be safe from the hazard that somebody was going to use the cannon in front of the local American Legion Hall to shell the VFW post in the next town over. Never mind that this never acually happened. Can't be too careful, you know.


41 posted on 12/20/2006 3:12:51 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: snarks_when_bored
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42 posted on 12/20/2006 3:14:03 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist )
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To: muleskinner

Hey thanks for the information I found it interesting......One of my personal proud moments was the first time I shot a black powder musket I got a bullseye !!!!.....


43 posted on 12/20/2006 3:16:53 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: muleskinner

They used XXX powder instead of X or Cannon grade. XXX is like salt and used in black powder pistols - X and Cannon grade is like pea gravel. The finer the grade, the faster the explosion.



That was one of the causes of a fatality at a coastal Boy Scout camp a few years ago...the scout killed had gone to the black powder range for a refill of powder instead of to the cannon shed..cannon misfired and then exploded about a minute later as he was was trying to "fix" it. That was the only camp in the state that didn't use a carbide cannon.


44 posted on 12/20/2006 3:45:49 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (The faithful will keep their heads down, their powder dry and hammer at the enemies flanks.)
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To: Gil4

I don't have a problem that they have a cannon, Waht I have a problem with it that they threatened to boy and told him to be quiet about it, or they would break his other leg. That goes beyond any imagination.


45 posted on 12/20/2006 4:42:48 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Alas Babylon!

That is true, and the picture I saw of the cannon showed it to have a thin barrel.


46 posted on 12/20/2006 6:01:22 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Kaslin
According to Karch's medical records, security guards notified police after Karch received disturbing phone calls and visits from parents and students, some of whom threatened to "break his other leg" or worse, if he didn't keep quiet about the accident. Hospital staff had to move him to a secure room where they monitored visitors.

sounds like the state prosecutor needs to go after some folks

47 posted on 12/20/2006 6:12:22 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Verloona Ti

some of these schools and little hick towns care more about football then they do anything else including God almighty


48 posted on 12/20/2006 6:17:37 PM PST by Charlespg (Peace= When we trod the ruins of Mecca and Medina under our infidel boots.)
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To: Charles Martel

Charles Martel,

That is not the cannon used in the accident. The cannon you posted is the Texas Longhorn Cannon at Royal-Texas Memoral Stadium. A blank 10-gauge shotgun shell ignites the scoring celebration. The name of that cannon is "Smokey the Cannon."

Why lie?


49 posted on 12/26/2006 9:30:32 PM PST by PA Cannon Man
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To: PA Cannon Man
Hmm, I seem to have copied some blogger's error. Oh well, Mea Culpa... and sorry about the misinformation, it wasn't intentional. I searched for a picture related to the incident and that's all I found (as well as one ugly pic of the student's repaired leg). I did think that pic looked like an awfully professional hunk of iron to have been made in a high school metal shop. Thanks for pointing out my error; most here on FreeRepublic generally welcome additional and correcting information. And by the way, welcome.

Given your chosen screen name and evident knowledge of the situation, I'd appreciate it if you'd point me to a picture of the actual cannon involved in this incident. I'm betting that some fan has it on a photo-hosting website somewhere.

I'd be interested in hearing your take on the x-ray business, too.

50 posted on 12/27/2006 6:05:18 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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