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Marine Charged With 13 Civilian Murder Counts (Haditha)
MSNBC ^ | 12/21/06

Posted on 12/21/2006 11:03:18 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: Txsleuth

"In the kind of environment that they are fighting in...the "shoot first, ask questions later" lesson is probably the only reason we don't have MORE dead troops."

NOT having this policy is why we are at where we are at in Iraq and why we will NEVER win.


62 posted on 12/21/2006 12:11:10 PM PST by quantfive
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Comment #63 Removed by Moderator

To: Zemo

And you know what I care about .... how?

(Hint: not by assumption nor by projection...)


64 posted on 12/21/2006 12:14:34 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: Zemo

Don Rumsfeld is amongst the most honorable men I have ever seen serve this country.


66 posted on 12/21/2006 12:15:52 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Non-Sequitur; SandRat; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; jude24

Not so.

Murtha has dirtied the water. Every leader knows that Murtha now holds the purse strings as head of the Armed Services Appropriations Committee. He has put his credibility on the line, and he doesn't want it besmirched after he's stuck his neck out like this.

This is command influence of the worst kind. There is no way that I'll ever believe these guys are guilty no matter what any court says. This needs to be taken away from the Marines and be given to a court of retired officers & NCOs who are not influenced by the current needs of the military.

Their rules of engagement authorized them to do exactly what that SSG told them to do....shoot first and ask questions later.

They should be givent the benefit of the doubt. They were in combat, they were receiving fire, and they were permitted to spray rooms and toss grenades into them.

I can't believe they even have to defend themselves.

In any case, the gross command influence exercised by Murtha means we'll never know if these guys truly are guilty.


67 posted on 12/21/2006 12:15:53 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: ishabibble

Thanks for that reminder....everyone should read David Horowitz's book....Unholy Alliance to really understand.,....the ACLU is the legal arm of the Marxists...


69 posted on 12/21/2006 12:16:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: areafiftyone
The Leftists (Murtha) are going to love this one - they hate our soldiers!

They don't like our Marines much either.

70 posted on 12/21/2006 12:16:34 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: burzum
They will have a fair trial.

I pray you're right. I trust our military justice system, too, but I don't trust Murtha.

His reputation (what's left of it) is riding on a trial. He'd look like an idiot if these boys weren't charged. And Murtha controls Marine Corps appropriations. A powerful man indeed.

72 posted on 12/21/2006 12:18:32 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: Zemo

I repeat, go away.


73 posted on 12/21/2006 12:19:28 PM PST by CremeSaver
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To: Zemo

Okay newbie, what are your previous incarnations here?


74 posted on 12/21/2006 12:20:00 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (Bush Derangement Syndrome Has Reached Pandemic Levels on Free Republic.)
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To: Zemo; knarf
We are in a war - kill the enemy. And we have a soldier charged for murder by the DoD because his Marines did not ring the door bell before entering an insurgent strong hold and say may we come in for tea?

Can't argue with that. Hang around, Zemo, alot of us are in a sour mood, don't let it bug ya.

75 posted on 12/21/2006 12:20:06 PM PST by smoothsailing (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Cagey
What begins?

There'll be another six or seven Marines charged before the day is over.

76 posted on 12/21/2006 12:20:27 PM PST by RedRover (They are not killers. Defend our Marines.)
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To: ASA Vet

Oops sorry about that! I goofed!


77 posted on 12/21/2006 12:20:35 PM PST by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason)
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To: Zemo

Why would I discuss anything with a spamming retread...?


78 posted on 12/21/2006 12:22:29 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: areafiftyone
BBC:

US marines face Iraq murder trial

************************************AN EXCERPT ****************************

There was no full US investigation into what happened until three months later when video footage that was taken by a local human rights activist of the aftermath reached Time Magazine.

79 posted on 12/21/2006 12:22:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: quantfive

I just don't understand this...

One of the "lessons learned" from past conflicts..the Beirut massacre, etc., should have been to NEVER tie the troops' hands re: using their weapons.


80 posted on 12/21/2006 12:23:14 PM PST by Txsleuth (Bolton/Cheney (that would be Lynne) 08)
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