Well newbie ... we'll sit here patiently and see if you actually engage in dialog before you're zotted.
Otherwise we present our collective @$$es for you to kiss.
I happen to agree with Zemo the newbee. Rumsfeld and the rest of the administration look like a pack of monkeys banging a football. There was no way in hell we should have gone in with anything less than we took to Desert Shield/Storm. We never had enough warfighters on the ground to control Al Anbar and Baghdad once Saddam fell. Falhluja should have been leveled in April of 04. Rumsfeld was an idiot 1st class. I don't care if Shinseki was a Clinton era General, he was right! we needed more friggin troops to get this done right. Now an entire squad of Marines has to fight for their lives in court because the politicaly correct morons at DOD never had the cojones to stand up to Rummy. The reasons for this war were and are still the right and noble thing to do but The planning and execution have been inexcusable. Flame away, I don't care anymore, I'm tired of everyone who cheerleads for Rumsfeld and his idiot cronies. When I retire March 30th, I will be free to finnaly let you all know what I really think about the stupid prosecution of this war.