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Pooping Peasant Popular in Spain
Examiner | AP ^ | 12/20/06

Posted on 12/21/2006 5:32:54 PM PST by LibWhacker

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Pooping Peasant Popular in Spain

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The Associated Press

Dec 20, 2006 4:16 PM (1 day ago)

BARCELONA, Spain - The Virgin Mary. The three kings. A few wayward sheep. These are the figures one expects to find in a traditional Christmas nativity scene. Not a smartly dressed peasant squatting behind a rock with his rear-end exposed.

Yet statuettes of "El Caganer," or the great defecator in the Catalan language, can be found in nativity scenes, and increasingly on the mantelpieces of collectors, throughout Spain's northeastern Catalonia region, where for centuries symbols of defecation have played an important role in Christmas festivities.

During the holiday season, pastry shops around Catalonia sell sweets shaped like feces, and on Christmas Eve Catalan children beat a hollow log, called the tio, packed with holiday gifts, singing a song that urges it to defecate presents out the other end.

These traditions, in the case of the caganer dating back as far as the 17th century, come from an agricultural society where defecation was associated with fertility and health.

While the traditional caganer is a red-capped peasant, more modern renditions have gained popularity in recent years.


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KEYWORDS: elcaganer; fecalphiliac; hoowdthoeverybody; peasant; pooping; spain
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Another anti-Christian smear from the War on Christmas crowd. Just look at who's picked this AP story up in the last 24 hours: CBS, ABC, MSNBC, Washington Post, Mail & Guardian, the usual suspects, and precious few others.
1 posted on 12/21/2006 5:32:55 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Is this the same one that poops on our lettuce & spinach here?


2 posted on 12/21/2006 5:34:25 PM PST by dave48170
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Bookmark


3 posted on 12/21/2006 5:34:36 PM PST by indcons
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To: LibWhacker
children beat a hollow log, called the tio, packed with holiday gifts, singing a song that urges it to defecate presents out the other end.

If the log lets the little Spaniards down, I'll brew up something special for them.

4 posted on 12/21/2006 5:34:53 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: LibWhacker

I take this more as a commentary on the Spanish.


5 posted on 12/21/2006 5:35:20 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: dead

Hey, that no cookie!


6 posted on 12/21/2006 5:36:13 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: ChiMark

This is a new form of the "Yule Log"...Thank you I will be here all week.


7 posted on 12/21/2006 5:36:24 PM PST by lndrvr1972
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To: LibWhacker
I like the Eid displays with the line of pilgrims on the Hajj going to Mecca, where one of the pilgrims is pissing on the Kaaba. Seeing that always brightens my holidays!
8 posted on 12/21/2006 5:36:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: LibWhacker

Actually, I hadn't heard of this particular figure, but it's not uncommon for traditional celebrations of the Nativity to include crude figures. The classic instance is "The Second Shepherds Play." Shepherds were traditionally known to be rude and clownish, which simply increases the wonder that God would include them among those who welcomed Jesus at His birth.

After all, it's a fallen world, and Jesus came into it to save sinners and idiots, not just the cultured and elegant few.


9 posted on 12/21/2006 5:40:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: LibWhacker
I thought it was the rain that fell in Spain.
10 posted on 12/21/2006 5:42:36 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: starbase

"I thought it was the rain that fell in Spain."



eh, that happens mainly on the plains.


11 posted on 12/21/2006 5:47:02 PM PST by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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To: Cicero
...but it's not uncommon for traditional celebrations of the Nativity to include crude figures

Boy, I must've led a sheltered childhood, lol! In my entire life, I've never seen any crude Nativity scenes, except ones set up by atheists to mock Christ.

12 posted on 12/21/2006 5:48:32 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Boy, I must've led a sheltered childhood, lol! In my entire life, I've never seen any crude Nativity scenes, except ones set up by atheists to mock Christ.

Nor have I and I hope to never be "enlightened".
13 posted on 12/21/2006 5:50:30 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: LibWhacker
I can speak from a position of authority, that within the ranks of the United States Navy Aircraft Carrier Fleet, a close cousin, the Phantom ****ter, has a long and sundried history, not to mention the occasional incredible aim, as the rightful owners of many Ready Room coffee mugs will testify to in person.

While many will claim that the original ****ter was a boisterous, barely bearded, boy of a Junior Officer, tgo real ****ter aficionados (and fans), the most hardcore originate among Enlisted men, this phenomenon often manifested itself in many spin offs during different versions of "Top This" and "Manly Wargames", the details of which are barely fit for polite conversation, and posting of which here would surely earn me the wrath of the All Seeing Admin Moderator.

That means you'll just have to take my word for it...
14 posted on 12/21/2006 5:53:57 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: LibWhacker

I might be an old fogey but I find Spain's obsession with feces more than just a little strange. Those people are just flat out SICKOS.


15 posted on 12/21/2006 5:57:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Gullibility is a bonus characteristic that comes with being young and stupid.)
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To: lndrvr1972

16 posted on 12/21/2006 6:01:48 PM PST by billorites (The People have spoken.... Damn them!)
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To: LibWhacker

So there's an historical source for South Park's Mr. Hankey, the Christmas Poo?

http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_episode.php?season=1&id1=110&id2=10


17 posted on 12/21/2006 6:06:07 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibWhacker

This is not anti-Christian. The "caganer" is a typical figure in Nativity scenes from Catalonia in northern Spain. In the Spanish Nativity Scene (called a "belén," which means Bethlehem), there are many figures doing all sorts of things, playing traditional instruments, herding sheep, doing traditional trades, etc. The "caganer" was a figure hidden in the bushes, and basically put there to entertain children. It would be like looking for the outhouse in an American "Victorian Christmas" diorama.

We should quit taking things so seriously. It makes us look ridiculous and also makes life pretty grim.


18 posted on 12/21/2006 6:13:29 PM PST by livius
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To: Bean Counter

LOL! Call him the Caganer (which means ****er in Catalan, a regional Iberian Peninsula language) and nobody will ever know the difference.


19 posted on 12/21/2006 6:15:25 PM PST by livius
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To: HighWheeler

By George, I think you've got it.


20 posted on 12/21/2006 6:20:39 PM PST by Ole Okie
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To: livius

I'm not saying there aren't some parochial Christian sects that celebrate Christmas with such scatalogical symbols. Not saying that at all. However, I am saying that the MSM's fixation on anything that makes Christians look ridiculous is driven by their anti-Christian agenda. There is no other explanation for it, and part of the problem we have is people who don't recognize it for what it is.


21 posted on 12/21/2006 6:54:02 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

scatological


22 posted on 12/21/2006 6:54:49 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
Another anti-Christian smear from the War on Christmas crowd.

The 17th Century War on Christmas crowd?

23 posted on 12/21/2006 6:55:09 PM PST by JennysCool (This is the United, not Diverse, States of America.)
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To: LibWhacker
"El Caganer"

24 posted on 12/21/2006 6:58:29 PM PST by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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To: LibWhacker

Pooping Caganer

25 posted on 12/21/2006 7:01:48 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: Alouette; SJackson
Ping to another nativity scene.

We've seen nativity scenes full of dogs, cats, chickens, bear--all made by people of the religion of nativity scenes. Thought this might also be of educational interest.
26 posted on 12/21/2006 7:05:03 PM PST by familyop ("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

***I might be an old fogey but I find Spain's obsession with feces more than just a little strange. Those people are just flat out SICKOS.***

About 50 years my dad took us on a trip to Juarez, Mexico.
One of the things sold there was what looked like a plate with two crossed pieces of pointed mud. My dad said it was not mud.


27 posted on 12/21/2006 7:09:03 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: LibWhacker

It just makes you want to be a European, doesn't it? The feces pastries and defecating log...

Did they make this up after the Muslims were running around their country, or before?


28 posted on 12/21/2006 7:11:22 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Perfect Christmas gift for Ahmadinejad...a bunker buster deliverd by the Israelis!)
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To: LibWhacker
I have an interesting vinyl Record, Handel: The Messiah (in English).

On the cover is a painting by Lucas Cranach, The mocking of Christ (1538).
One of the mockers has his pants pulled down and and his rear facing a sitting Christ. the Christ is looking out at the audience (thats us) as if to say..."See what I have to go through for you?"
29 posted on 12/21/2006 7:15:35 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)
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To: livius
I never noticed this living in Spain para tres anos en '80s. I did notice a toilet stall with just a hole in the floor in a remote train station once.

I will tell you what we did. WE grabbed the toilet paper and pinched a loaf around a building and behind some bushes and trees.

These figures seem to be about my buddy and me! We were out there having a blast in Spain with those folks in the AF and doing everything an ugly American may think of doing.

And now I found out our crazy asses have been honored for years!! My heart is warmed by this Christmas present:):) Feliz Navidad, amigos (cabrones)!

30 posted on 12/21/2006 7:29:45 PM PST by BobS
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To: BobS

Actually, I think this was around long before rosy pink American backsides were seen there...but the general message is the same. It was considered funny then, and now it's considered so funny that they make "caganer" figures of political figures, movie stars, etc. Not for Nativity scenes, of course. Just for the heck of it.


31 posted on 12/21/2006 7:35:53 PM PST by livius
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To: LibWhacker

With Zapatero, Spain is going to the dogs...


32 posted on 12/21/2006 7:41:02 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: livius
We should quit taking things so seriously.

Like the incarnation of God on earth? Yeah, hell, what's the big deal.

33 posted on 12/21/2006 7:46:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: LibWhacker

I don't believe it, it reminds me of the scene in Caddyshack where the Baby Ruth is floating in the pool.


34 posted on 12/21/2006 7:48:03 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I like your tagline- (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)

You know, there is a civilization moving here that may have a need for a burning cross on their lawns at some future point. And they will burn it down on their own. Blacks, whites, Hispanics/Latinos will build those crosses for them together. We have our own civilization. The funny part is the other civilization won't know what they are doing!

35 posted on 12/21/2006 7:53:21 PM PST by BobS
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To: lndrvr1972
This is a new form of the "Yule Log"...Thank you I will be here all week.

LOLTAD

36 posted on 12/21/2006 7:58:00 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I like your tagline- (When someone burns a cross on your lawn the best firehose is an AK-47.)

You know, there is a civilization moving here that may have a need for a burning cross on their lawns at some future point. And they will burn it down on their own. Blacks, whites, Hispanics/Latinos will build those crosses for them together. We have our own civilization. The funny part is the other civilization won't know what they are doing!

37 posted on 12/21/2006 7:59:40 PM PST by BobS
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To: livius
Why haven't I ever seen a Lladro figurine like that? I had 18 shipped with my stuff when I left (no taxes or questions:), still in the original blue boxes and straw. They broke the mold of 3 so far. Too valuable to display.

I think I get it. It's to make fun of people that ask for it!

38 posted on 12/21/2006 8:23:48 PM PST by BobS
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To: Bean Counter

Ha! We just had a Phantom on board my ship over Thanksgiving. He struck the cargo office, leaving his mark in the bucket for coffee grounds.


39 posted on 12/21/2006 8:39:09 PM PST by capt.P (Hold Fast! Strong Hand Uppermost!)
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To: HighWheeler; starbase
And the powers that be discriminate heavily against the ugly.

In other words,

"The reign in Spain falls mainly on the plain."

IknowIknow, it's a sickness.

40 posted on 12/21/2006 9:17:37 PM PST by Erasmus (Able was Bob ere Bob saw Elba.)
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A once great nation seeks further into decadence and irrelevance. The European story writ small in a corner of Europe that resisted the rot longer than most. But the rot is here now. With a vengeance. Their film, their art, their social mores reveal sensibilities abhorrent to the wholesome imagination. On the plus side, they are not having children and will die out altogether early in the next century. Spain will be one of Islam's first conquests in Europe. Incredibly, it might be an improvement.


41 posted on 12/21/2006 9:53:10 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: livius
Call him the Caganer (which means ****er in Catalan, a regional Iberian Peninsula language) and nobody will ever know the difference.

Except anyone who speaks Spanish and Portuguese.
42 posted on 12/21/2006 10:00:43 PM PST by aruanan
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To: hinckley buzzard
Like the incarnation of God on earth? Yeah, hell, what's the big deal.

Sure, even Jesus was sarcastic and told jokes.
43 posted on 12/21/2006 10:02:43 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan

Well, anybody who speaks Spanish or Portuguese probably already knows about it and is not clutching their head in horror.


44 posted on 12/22/2006 3:26:48 AM PST by livius
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To: LibWhacker

"During the holiday season, pastry shops around Catalonia sell sweets shaped like feces, and on Christmas Eve Catalan children beat a hollow log, called the tio, packed with holiday gifts, singing a song that urges it to defecate presents out the other end. "

You just CAN'T make this stuff up. The appeal of this particular "tradition" completely escapes me.


45 posted on 12/22/2006 3:29:52 AM PST by Mila
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To: LibWhacker

Senor Hanky?


46 posted on 12/22/2006 3:41:50 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 1-9)
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To: Bean Counter

The Phantom ****ter was also working his magic back in '75-'78 in the woods of West Germany. I, opps, I mean he, was not going to dig a latrine after a jump and set-up at 3 A.M.


47 posted on 12/22/2006 3:56:31 AM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: lndrvr1972

Someone over at Fark called it 'Feces Navidad'.


48 posted on 12/22/2006 4:03:31 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: LibWhacker
This thread has gone to the dogs.

Just don't bring up Sinter Klass and Black Pete.

49 posted on 12/22/2006 4:07:50 AM PST by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I used the holiday greeting "Eid Me" to fellow expats in the Middle East. I'm pretty sure it wasn't the official one.
50 posted on 12/22/2006 4:11:51 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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