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Why Isn't the Whole Left Neoconservative?
American Thinker ^ | December 21, 2006 | James Lewis

Posted on 12/21/2006 8:28:01 PM PST by neverdem

Now that neocons are being slow-roasted in effigy all over the world, this may be the right time to ask the question: Why isn't the whole Left neoconservative? Remember that  neocons like Norman  Podhoretz and Daniel P. Moynihan were former left-wingers who saw the light --- which only seems like common sense, after witnessing Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Kims (Dad and Junior), and the whole mass-murdering gang of cutthroats.

After the Soviet Union crashed and no one could possibly ignore the bloody mess the Left kept making over seventy long years. So why didn't all the decent Leftists just read their Milton Friedman and grow up?

That's what the so-called neocons did, and more power to them. I take it as obvious that they were correct and morally decent, in learning to see how wrong they had been. They grew up. My question is: What happened to all the others?

Or to ask it a different way: Why is it that in Britain, of all countries, a BBC4 survey showed that the greatest philosopher of all time is considered to be ... Karl Marx?   A hate-filled parasitical scribbler who spent his life in the British Museum, stoking the fires that killed 100 million people in the 20th century? What is wrong with British education that the plain facts do not shout out for themselves?

The fact that the Left never, ever learns gives the lie to all its high-falutin' claims of "idealism," "progressivism," and superior morality. There is one and only one reason the Left isn't blamed for its misdeeds: It still controls the organs of propaganda, following der Übermenschlicher Karl. Thus some 90 percent of our media functionairies are left wingers. A predominant percentage of professors and teachers are, too.

To hold on to their beliefs leftists must shut down any competing ideas, which is precisely what they do. Just take your favorite leftist friends, and tell them some obvious fact they don't want to hear. You can see it working right in front of your eyes: They just won't hear it.  Like the stone idols of the Bible, they have eyes, but cannot see; ears, but cannot hear. (Ps. 115) As long as they control the dominant media, our society will keep teetering at the brink of destruction.

All this is relevant today, because the Western world has just realized (again!) that multiculturalism, the latest mass delusion from the elites, comes down to societal suicide. Ooops! In exchange for the Multiculti Cult we get the Twin Towers on 9/11,  carnage in London, Madrid, Mumbai, Bali and Baghdad, nightly riots in the banlieus of France, hateful anti-Americanism throughout Europe and America, and yes, the rise of yet another version of Left Fascism, this time marked by loudly voiced race hatred and anti-Semitism.     Who could be surprised? Yet nobody blames the snake-oil peddlers for those deadly toxins.

Europe is still suffering from the intellectual monopoly of socialism. "Sophisticated" Europe doesn't see any respectable alternative to the Left, since conservatism is constantly and deliberately confounded with fascism.   The American Left tries to ape the Euromyth that any decent and moral person must be a Leftist --- but so far only American professors believe it. Since in the tunnel-vision of the anointed there is no alternative to themselves, if one fairy-tale of Earthly Paradise is seen to crash, another one must instantly take its place. That is why the commissars of Post-Modernism and Multiculturalism suddenly rose to power all over the West in the 1970s and 80s. The faithful had to find a new way to justify their idee fixe.
Such mental fixedness is utterly irrational. A psychiatrist would have to ask whether the people who keep peddling the same toxins over and over again are themselves deeply malevolent and destructive: Whether unconsciously they really want to murder their societies. Why else would they keep pushing toward chaos?

So I ask again: Why isn't everybody on the Left a neocon? Why isn't Hillary? Chomsky? John Kerry? All those Sixties leftovers who never learned --- why are they so intellectually stuck? Have they no decency? 

So hurray for the Neocons, say I, and long may they bug the Left.

James Lewis blogs at  Dangerous Times.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: enemywithin; gramsci; left; marxism; neoconservatives; socialism; stuckonstupid; usefulidiots

1 posted on 12/21/2006 8:28:04 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

When did the left ever support Israel?


2 posted on 12/21/2006 8:32:42 PM PST by Always Right
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To: neverdem

Jews, and I'm one, are only good to the left for one thing.

Can you guess what that one thing i$?


3 posted on 12/21/2006 8:35:34 PM PST by repvetsyiydli
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To: neverdem
Interesting article. I wonder if the author realizes we are in for at least another 20 years of this. After all, 40 is the new 20-something.
4 posted on 12/21/2006 8:37:33 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: neverdem

Even the Libs don't want to hang out with Fred Barnes.


5 posted on 12/21/2006 8:39:43 PM PST by BW2221
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To: neverdem
Why isn't the whole Left Neo-conservative?...which only seems like common sense...question asked, question answered - the whole Left is common-sense-challenged.......
6 posted on 12/21/2006 8:40:44 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: neverdem

When leftists reject God they condemn themselves to blindness and hardness of heart (they can't see the obvious), intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy, and worst of all, a dead spirit. They are to be pitied.


7 posted on 12/21/2006 8:47:23 PM PST by Liberty Wins (Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it.)
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To: neverdem

"Long may they bug the Left"?

NO NO NO!! LONG MAY THEY DESTROY THE LRFT!!!!!


8 posted on 12/21/2006 9:05:40 PM PST by wildcatf4f3 (If it weren't for lawyers we wouldn't need 'em)
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To: neverdem
WHY IS NOT THE WHOLE LEFT NEOCOSERVATIVE?

I have pondered this same question and looked at the many facets of this dichotomy. Just a few days ago the answer came to me and it is very simple. The leftist of this country are very committed socialists. All the countries ruled by autocrats, dictators, and theocracies are socialists. The left sees capitalism as its true and central enemy. When given the choice between capitalism, and freedom verses a socialistic dictatorship they find the latter the lesser of two evils. With this logic it is easy to understand why Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosie, etc. take actions that are harmful and fatal to our troops and country. To them they have chosen the lesser of two evils. To them a socialistic dictatorship is preferable to a free capitalistic nation. They are not hypocrites nor are they deluded. They are committed socialists quasi Marxists.

9 posted on 12/21/2006 9:16:29 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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To: Liberty Wins

Well stated!


10 posted on 12/21/2006 9:17:05 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: neverdem
The left has invested a lot of hatred and resources into the quagmire of Capitalism. The investment is tantamount to a religious faith in the bleary future of utopia and the promised return is unfulfilling, especially as the standards of living improve around the world and people are guaranteed liberties and civil rights. But to the left this means nothing but a protracted false conscience among the proletariat or middle class who, as far as the left is concerned, are still slaves to the system. Therefore, the left looks to the radical elite and academic intelligentsia to lead the way to revolution. The elite do so by way of ad homien arguments, sophistry, name calling and siding with any force that opposes the west and liberal democracy. The left is suffering from the 150 year old romantic delusion of socialism and will never confront reality. Feelings are all that matters and their gnawing sense of injustice will never allow them to compromise or try practical reforms within the Capitalist system. It is all or nothing and they will never bow to the Great Satan... which for a lot of them simply means getting a job and taking responsibilities. The religion of the left is attractive to many people and allows them to feel "moral." But the means and results of socialism is less than moral, in fact, it has led to some of the greatest killing fields known to man. Capitalism and democracy still has the virtue of moderation: reason and caution is still used to determine the greatest good. But the irrationalism of the left demands great experiments with the unlimited, demands the sacrifice of the individual for the purest of causes, demands the excess of faith... and their long history will never tell them anything otherwise.
11 posted on 12/21/2006 9:20:07 PM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: Liberty Wins
When leftists reject God they condemn themselves to blindness and hardness of heart (they can't see the obvious), intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy, and worst of all, a dead spirit. They are to be pitied.

WRONG! They must be defeated.

12 posted on 12/21/2006 9:20:51 PM PST by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash and proud of it, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast)
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To: neverdem

Why Isn't the Whole Left Neoconservative?

Because they aren't as smart as we are. Thoses that remained on the left were and are moral midgets, interested only in power for it's own sake.


13 posted on 12/21/2006 9:25:05 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: neverdem; Blind Eye Jones; cpdiii

Good article, great comments. BTTT!


14 posted on 12/21/2006 9:29:37 PM PST by PGalt
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To: neverdem

A short answer to the question posed...for many of the wussy side, "decent Leftists" is an oxymoron.


15 posted on 12/21/2006 9:50:42 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: neverdem
So I ask again: Why isn't everybody on the Left a neocon?

Because they have blamed 'Kapitalism' for all their personal failings all their lives. If they stopped hating 'Kapitalism' and 'Amerika', they would have to take responsibility for their failings. Sad fact is, countless minions of Leftists believe in their hearts that 'Kapitalism', not socialism, Communism or fanatical Islam is the reason the world is a mess.

They are also stuck on the 'equality' notion. Inequality anywhere (except in Hollywood or the Universities) is perceived as a moral failing of the system. So even if the marxist utopian societies they built in the past never acheived anything close to equality, it's ok because they were at least trying to do the right thing. (Sorry about those 100 million dead, shucks what can a Leftist do about that?)

I know this is how they think because I WAS a leftist for years, thought Marx was pretty spot on, didn't know s**t about economics myself, nor had any real-world experience to back up the fairy-floss notions imbibed (liberally, I should add) in college.

16 posted on 12/21/2006 10:06:26 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: Valin

"Thoses that remained on the left were and are moral midgets, interested only in power for it's own sake."

Don't underestimate the lefties. They may be morally deficient but there are plenty of lefties who are plenty smart. Avaricious? Yes, but we have a lot of avaricious folk on our side also.


17 posted on 12/21/2006 10:06:44 PM PST by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons

It is all about power and money.


18 posted on 12/21/2006 10:12:36 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: BW2221
Even the Libs don't want to hang out with Fred Barnes.

I'm not sure I get your point. But, then, I sorta like Freddy "the Beetle" Barnes.

19 posted on 12/21/2006 10:13:41 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee (const Tag &referenceToConstTag)
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To: Rembrandt

ABSOLUTLY!!!


20 posted on 12/21/2006 10:16:25 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Well stated. While we are in the business of trashing the Left, let me add that embracing some flavor of marxism (multi-culturism, femininism, eco-nonsense) is a way for affluent kids to expiate their fellings of guilt for being affluent witout having to change their lifestyle in any important way. Note that marxists always embrace it in their youth (hardly anyone converts to it in middle age), the most prominent marxists are nearly always scions of wealthy families (example: remember Phil Ochs?), yet NONE of them ever gives away their wealth to the poor, as Jesus taught. They call for the reconstruction of other people, not themselves, for the dismantling of enterprises they are NOT involved in (thus Hollywood is NOT 'big business', no matter how much money is made, and how overpaid the stars are). It boils down to a fanatical religious conviction, re-inforced by peer presure, most of the media, and sometimes even the companies they work for.


21 posted on 12/21/2006 10:22:33 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: Rembrandt
Avaricious?

How about that Green Party city councilman from MN, who was recently sentenced to 2 1/2 years for accepting bribes from real estate developers? Or Ted Kennedy for that matter?

22 posted on 12/21/2006 10:29:30 PM PST by ARepublicanForAllReasons (I hereby pledge to endeavor to eliminate most sarcasm from my posts... (NOT!))
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To: neverdem

btt


23 posted on 12/21/2006 10:48:39 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: cpdiii
I find it easier to see a trichotomy:
  1. Those who want to be taken care of.
  2. Those who want to take care of themselves.
  3. Those who want to rule others.
Groups #1 and #3 are leftists.
24 posted on 12/21/2006 11:02:45 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: neverdem
[ Such mental fixedness is utterly irrational. A psychiatrist would have to ask whether the people who keep peddling the same toxins over and over again are themselves deeply malevolent and destructive: Whether unconsciously they really want to murder their societies. Why else would they keep pushing toward chaos? So I ask again: Why isn't everybody on the Left a neocon? Why isn't Hillary? Chomsky? John Kerry? All those Sixties leftovers who never learned --- why are they so intellectually stuck? Have they no decency? ]

Absolutely not.. Duuugh..

25 posted on 12/21/2006 11:05:26 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: cpdiii

And leftists are also delusional or outright deceitful when they call everyone they disagree with a fascist. Fascism / nazism is just another form of socialism ("right"), just like communism is a form of socialism ("left"), difference being that fascism allows some sort of private ownership of property and means of production, however tenuous. Both are totalitarian dictatorship forms of government where elite controls and/or owns most of the capital and industrial production and rely heavily on propaganda apparatus to maintain control over hoi polloi, with middle class [almost] non-existent. They're also the most corrupt forms of overnment as to get any goods or services otherwise not available to masses the few who have control over these goods and services can benefit greatly while at the same time maintaining the illusion of "equality" (egalite - Fr.)

Socialist governments also deny or have no need for God, as either race or party is "uber alles" (above all - Germ.)

Neocons are the ones who figured that out. Probably original neocon was Ronald Reagan when he said "I didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left me".

Of course, for many leftists, "neocon" is just a synonym for "Jew" who is not on left-wing reservation, just like black "Uncle Toms".

If "progressives" will look in the mirror, here's what they will see if only they have enough brains to process it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
http://nazi.org (for educational purposes only)

http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/08/this-article-is-published-on-internet.html


26 posted on 12/21/2006 11:23:44 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: cpdiii

And leftists are also delusional or outright deceitful when they call everyone they disagree with a fascist. Fascism / nazism is just another form of socialism ("right"), just like communism is a form of socialism ("left"), difference being that fascism allows some sort of private ownership of property and means of production, however tenuous. Both are totalitarian dictatorship forms of government where elite controls and/or owns most of the capital and industrial production and rely heavily on propaganda apparatus to maintain control over hoi polloi, with middle class [almost] non-existent. They're also the most corrupt forms of government as to get any goods or services otherwise not available to masses the few who have control over these goods and services can benefit greatly while at the same time maintaining the illusion of "equality" (egalite - Fr.)

Socialist governments also deny or have no need for God, as either race or party is "uber alles" (above all - Germ.)

Neocons are the ones who figured that out. Probably original neocon was Ronald Reagan when he said "I didn't leave the Democrat party, the party left me".

Of course, for many leftists, "neocon" is just a synonym for "Jew" who is not on left-wing reservation, just like black "Uncle Toms".

If "progressives" will look in the mirror, here's what they will see if only they have enough brains to process it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi
http://nazi.org (for educational purposes only)

And if above is not enough:
http://ray-dox.blogspot.com/2006/08/this-article-is-published-on-internet.html


27 posted on 12/21/2006 11:26:35 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: cpdiii
The left sees capitalism as its true and central enemy. When given the choice between capitalism, and freedom verses a socialistic dictatorship they find the latter the lesser of two evils.

I think you're onto soemthing here. How else to explain the left's visceral hatred of George Bush and other "right-wing extremists" (translation: mainstream conservatives), versus its relative tolerance for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-Il, Hugo Chavez, and assorted other despisers of Western values?

28 posted on 12/21/2006 11:42:26 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: supercat

I agree, but would add to the end of #1 and #3 "by means of government" or "via government".

And I would replace "leftists" with "socialists", as "left" and "right" really means two different form of socialism ("big/totalitarian government"). Also, the "leftists", "liberals", "progressives" et al are always trying to intellectually escape the now tarnished analogy of "left = communist" by accusing those who they previously branded the "right" (i.e. "right not= left") of being fascist.

Calling them socialists to begin with takes the intellectually dishonest "fascist" argument out of the equation (see my previous post).


29 posted on 12/21/2006 11:44:32 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: neverdem
This guy Lewis has good points and is an interesting read, but he gives too much credit to lefties. It's not about learning whether the philosophy works or not, that can be fixed by a never ending media lie. (Example: we all know that Bush=Hitler and Saddam never committed an unkind act in his life.) It's about gaining power and never giving it up. Conservatives never irrevocably consolidate that kind of power, only socialists/communists do. Lefties cannot become conservative, because to do so would require them to protect human rights rather than commit wholesale violation of those rights.
30 posted on 12/21/2006 11:47:30 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story.)
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To: Blind Eye Jones
[S]ocialism...has led to some of the greatest killing fields known to man.

That is so very true. Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot...the list goes on and on. (One could reasonably add Hitler to the list, since Nazism--diminutive for National Socialism--is really a far left ideology, contrary to its usual portrayal.)

Your analysis is right on target.

31 posted on 12/21/2006 11:52:54 PM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
[T]he most prominent marxists are nearly always scions of wealthy families...They call for the reconstruction of other people, not themselves, for the dismantling of enterprises they are NOT involved in...

Exactly. The term "limousine liberals" leaps to mind--even though it it hard to think of an alliterative counterpart, substituting "Marxists" for "liberals."

32 posted on 12/22/2006 12:10:53 AM PST by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: hosepipe

It seems like leftists are those people Einstein gave as examples of what the insane do: keep doing the same thing and expect a different result.

They keep generating their utopias and the utopiasa tune out to Hell-on-earth for 95% of their people. But they keeping thinking they'll get a real utopia antway. They don't learn anything.


33 posted on 12/22/2006 4:28:25 AM PST by RoadTest (Keep our Marines out of Kangaroo court!)
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To: RoadTest

I wish I had spell-checked that.


34 posted on 12/22/2006 4:29:16 AM PST by RoadTest (Keep our Marines out of Kangaroo court!)
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To: supercat


Those who want to be taken care of.
Those who want to take care of themselves.
Those who want to rule others.
Groups #1 and #3 are leftists.



True but you forgot those who want to help others. Those are by definition Capitalists.


35 posted on 12/22/2006 7:00:06 AM PST by Rippin
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To: neverdem; A. Pole
The neocons deserve to be commended from dropping their communist sympathies and coming to terms with some realities. Unfortunately, they still hold to a number of leftist delusions, such as the perfectability of human nature. This leads them to advocate some disasterous policies, such as attempting to democratize cultures intrinsically hostile to democracy.

Thank goodness their ideas have been so thoroughly discredited.

36 posted on 12/24/2006 11:39:29 AM PST by curiosity
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