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Pagans celebrate Winter Solstice at Stonehenge on the wrong day...
Monsters & Critics ^ | Dec 22, 2006 | UPI

Posted on 12/22/2006 9:27:14 AM PST by DogByte6RER

Religion News

Solstice rite held early at Stonehenge

Dec 22, 2006

LONDON, England (UPI) -- Around 60 people turned up to celebrate the Winter Solstice at Stonehenge Thursday - on the wrong day. After negotiating with site managers, the crowd performed traditional solstice activities and left peacefully.

One reveller, who wished to remain anonymous, said: 'We formed a ring and held hands, and touched the stones. The man with the green cloak was there. But there were an awful lot of red faces,' she said.

The Pagan Winter Solstice celebration is one of the oldest winter celebrations in the world. Because the Summer Solstice occurs on June 21, they assume the Winter Solstice occurs Dec. 21, but it actually occurs Friday at 0022 GMT. Another crowd is expected at Stonehenge Friday morning.

Stonehenge is currently competing against other iconic structures from the Statue of Liberty to the Great Wall of China, in a global poll for the New Seven Wonders of the World. The poll is organized by the Swiss-based New7Wonders and the winners will be announced in July 2007.

Last year, permission was refused for a new visitor centre at Stonehenge but English Heritage plans to appeal the decision. It also said the much-needed improvements were now subject to a government review as a result of cost increases.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: duh; fakeholiday; godsgravesglyphs; goingtohell; kwaanza; pagan; religion; solstice; stonehenge; unsaved; weird; wiccans; wintersolstice
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"Around 60 people turned up to celebrate the Winter Solstice at Stonehenge Thursday - on the wrong day."

Hah! The pagan gods will be angry. Prepare to burn in torment, you dopey heretics!

1 posted on 12/22/2006 9:27:18 AM PST by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER
I'm a hankering to give those dopey pagans a good spankering! Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
2 posted on 12/22/2006 9:28:56 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

There's alot of things about this group that might suggest they're not rocket scientists.


3 posted on 12/22/2006 9:31:22 AM PST by Spok (He who bites the hands that feeds him will lick the boot that kicks him.)
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To: DogByte6RER

""Around 60 people turned up to celebrate the Winter Solstice at Stonehenge Thursday - on the wrong day."

Flash! Christians re-schedule Christ's birthday to coincide with pagan Winter Solstice celebrations.


4 posted on 12/22/2006 9:33:40 AM PST by UpAllNight
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To: DogByte6RER
'We formed a ring and held hands, and touched the stones. The man with the green cloak was there. But there were an awful lot of red faces'

Was the man with the green cloak the one whose stones got touched?
5 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:07 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (A liberal is a suicide bomber without the guts)
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To: DogByte6RER

Well, consider that their time could have been spent in much more socially harmful activities than forming a circle and touching stones. Insofar as it kept them busy [and thus away from doing mischief and causing anarchy and destruction], their celebration is to be welcomed.


6 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:11 AM PST by GSlob
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To: DogByte6RER
Great. They've screwed up and now the sun god will not be convinced to come back this year. When temeratures are still below freezing in July they'll be crying for some global warming.
7 posted on 12/22/2006 9:34:22 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Baker's Iraq Surrender Group - warming up the last helicopter out of Baghdad.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Duuuude... where's my car?!
8 posted on 12/22/2006 9:35:41 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: TheKidster

Now this is funny.....:-)


9 posted on 12/22/2006 9:36:10 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Hehe...this IS a funny thread!

So much material, so little time!


10 posted on 12/22/2006 9:41:23 AM PST by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: KarlInOhio

Not this crap again.

I'm surrounded by idiots

11 posted on 12/22/2006 9:41:36 AM PST by Covenantor
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To: DogByte6RER

What would a motorcycle gang be doing at Stonehenge anyway?


12 posted on 12/22/2006 9:43:14 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: DogByte6RER

--I thought the stones walked to the nearest water one day of the year and crushed anybody who saw them--couldn't they have worked around that?


13 posted on 12/22/2006 9:43:31 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: DogByte6RER
They may have missed the solstice thingy, but their main objective was realized--gettin' high on some gnarly buds, drinkin' a few brewskis, and jammin' to some kewl tunes.

Oh, yeah--and feelin' up the chick with the purple hair and lip rings...

14 posted on 12/22/2006 9:48:55 AM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: DogByte6RER

This anecdote demonstrates just how superficial the "faith" of these self-styled pagans really is.

No self-respecting pagan of old would have overlooked the correct dates of a solstice or equinox, for any reason.


15 posted on 12/22/2006 9:49:17 AM PST by Loyalist (Social justice isn't; social studies aren't; social work doesn't.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Hell's Angels?


16 posted on 12/22/2006 9:50:13 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

Gotta love dem kooks.

17 posted on 12/22/2006 9:50:56 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (It looks like one of those days when one nuke is just not enough-- Lt. Col. Mitchell, SG-1)
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To: randog
"...gettin' high on some gnarly buds, drinkin' a few brewskis, and jammin' to some kewl tunes. Oh, yeah--and feelin' up the chick with the purple hair and lip rings..." Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting Yes! I am so there!
18 posted on 12/22/2006 9:54:50 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: big'ol_freeper

The Brown Acid again.


19 posted on 12/22/2006 9:55:32 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

More importantly, is the Man In The Green Cloak related to the Man In Rhe Yellow Hat? And are either them related to Red Ridinghood?


20 posted on 12/22/2006 9:57:51 AM PST by discostu (we're two of a kind, silence and I)
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To: big'ol_freeper
I remember seeing something similar to this in a movie when I was a kid... Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
21 posted on 12/22/2006 9:58:31 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I see you got off on that LSD suppository I sold you.

Not bad for $50 eh?

Still got one left if you're interested.


22 posted on 12/22/2006 9:59:34 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Dumb assses!
23 posted on 12/22/2006 10:00:43 AM PST by b4its2late (Liberalism is a hollow log and a mental disorder.)
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To: DogByte6RER
In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids. No one knows who they were or what they were doing...


24 posted on 12/22/2006 10:00:55 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do "Stonehenge" tomorrow?
--Derek Smalls

25 posted on 12/22/2006 10:01:59 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: Loyalist
No self-respecting pagan of old would have overlooked the correct dates of a solstice or equinox, for any reason.

No, they would have used Stonehenge for its original purpose...an analog computer for calculating solstices and equinoxes.

I suppose in some jungle somewhere, a witch doctor is still trying to figure out what to do with a lost-and-found HP35. In like manner, modern primitives are having the same problems with REALLY old models on non-solstices.

26 posted on 12/22/2006 10:05:03 AM PST by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: windcliff; onedoug

ping


27 posted on 12/22/2006 10:05:48 AM PST by stylecouncilor
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To: Loyalist
This anecdote demonstrates just how superficial the "faith" of these self-styled pagans really is.

No self-respecting pagan of old would have overlooked the correct dates of a solstice or equinox, for any reason.

They seemed to have omitted the sacrifice, too. What's a solstice without blood?

28 posted on 12/22/2006 10:08:05 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Tribune7
In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history, an ancient race of people... the Druids.

They don't LOOK Druish...

29 posted on 12/22/2006 10:09:12 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Tribune7; cogitator; NicknamedBob; theDentist; VRWCmember; Argh; sionnsar
Nope.

Weren't the DRuids - who were early Middle Ages at best, at minimum a hoped-for copy of what certain "Celts" THOUGHT were old pre-Roman pagan activities. But nobody knows exactly what they throught they were copying ...

Stonehenge itself is a series of very old (2100 - 2500 BC stone monuments built (and rebuilt!) over top one another over an original wooden circle.

The stones (gaps, notches, and top-of-stones - depending on where you're measuring) line up with the moon-sun rising points for that latitude at their setting times at mid-winter, the equinoxs (mid-March, mid-Sept, and mid-summer. Fairly accurate, once corrected for 4000-off years of precession that misaligns the ORGINAL setting lines.

So, what their "worshiping" now is meaningless (assuming it ever was meaningful, that is!) since "nothing" is "on" the original lines anymore.
30 posted on 12/22/2006 10:12:35 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: DogByte6RER

"D'Oh!!"


31 posted on 12/22/2006 10:12:55 AM PST by browngreengold
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To: Gorzaloon

Worked fairly well!

Did you realize the inner circle of holes of the "analog computer" works out as a counter for the number of years between eclipses? We don't know what they really did, but if a stone is moved from hole to hole, the "count" for the number of holes gives the time to the next eclipse.

Means you need somebody to move stones "religiously" to keep the count up - since it's a long cycle, but that just shows it would be a stable culture whose priest class predicts what they'll need the 17 years, the next 17 after that, etc.


32 posted on 12/22/2006 10:16:21 AM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Tribune7

Thank you. 24 posts on a Stonehedge thread before the first Spinal Tap reference. Tsk tsk tsk.


33 posted on 12/22/2006 10:18:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
:-)
34 posted on 12/22/2006 10:20:40 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: Lancey Howard
"What would a motorcycle gang be doing at Stonehenge anyway?"

LOL! We rode up behind one of those filthy bastards on the highway this past summer. My wife wanted to 'accidentally' run him over with our SUV a few times. I told her to go ahead, but for whatever reason, she didn't.

35 posted on 12/22/2006 10:21:07 AM PST by KoRn
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To: dfwgator
Not just Stonehenge, but a magnificent Stonehenge screw-up by hippy-dippy flakes.

What could be more appropriate?

36 posted on 12/22/2006 10:22:31 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: discostu

Possibly related to the little boy in the red poof-ball hat?


37 posted on 12/22/2006 10:24:22 AM PST by ushr435
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To: Gorzaloon

Pagans just aren't what they used to be....


38 posted on 12/22/2006 10:25:35 AM PST by metalcor
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To: ushr435

And I'm sure the Bluemen Group has to fit in here somewhere.


39 posted on 12/22/2006 10:28:18 AM PST by discostu (we're two of a kind, silence and I)
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To: DogByte6RER
Who is that? Bea Arthur?
40 posted on 12/22/2006 10:39:11 AM PST by PacesPaines
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To: DogByte6RER

The article said they touched the stones, but I thought they put a fence around Stonehenge and didn't allow people to touch the stones anymore? Did these people have special access?


41 posted on 12/22/2006 10:41:43 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: reagan_fanatic

he got a red face after he got his stones touched.


42 posted on 12/22/2006 10:49:04 AM PST by printhead
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To: PacesPaines

Yeah...

I think it IS Bea Arthur and the cast from that liberal '70s sitcom "Maude."

Didn't the show "Maude" do an episode featuring Wicca and human sacrifices?!?!

lol


43 posted on 12/22/2006 10:50:11 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: PacesPaines

http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/M/htmlM/maude/maude.htm


44 posted on 12/22/2006 10:50:52 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
The Pagans MC. Their national HQ was once in Marcus Hook, Pa.

And the man who drove them out was Mayor, later Congressman, and soon to be out of work Curt Weldon.

45 posted on 12/22/2006 10:54:25 AM PST by Tribune7 (Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

They must have utilized their magical powers of levitation to go OVER the fence...

OR

they rode in on their broomsticks.


46 posted on 12/22/2006 10:56:09 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER
LOL. That is a picture of Bea Arthur from the atrocious "Star Wars Holiday Special" from the late 70's. I saw it as a kid. It only aired once and George Lucas has vowed to destroy every known copy. I have seen a tape of the special on bootleg and it is as bad as I remember: Chebacca's family celebrates "life day"; Carrie Fisher sings the Star Wars Theme (pure torture); Jefferson Starship and Diane Carrol perform disco fluff; Art Carney plays some lame friend of the Wookies...etc.

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/

47 posted on 12/22/2006 11:00:45 AM PST by MaestroLC ("Let him who wants peace prepare for war."--Vegetius, A.D. Fourth Century)
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To: MaestroLC

I need a copy.


48 posted on 12/22/2006 11:05:09 AM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: DogByte6RER

>>>"Around 60 people turned up to celebrate the Winter Solstice at Stonehenge Thursday - on the wrong day."

Since the winter solstice is the point when the sun is at its greatest distance from the equatorial plane (according to the story, occurring just past midnight on the 22nd) revelers there on the evening of the 21st might have been closer to the correct time of the solstice than those that arrived on morning of the the supposed correct day of the 22nd.


49 posted on 12/22/2006 11:07:11 AM PST by NC28203
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To: MaestroLC

Yup...

Here is the cast at the link:

http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/cast.htm

Bea Arthur (aka "Maude") played "Ackmena"

Since this was the Star Wars Holiday Special, I have to assume that the holiday they were "specializing" was the Winter Solstice (or maybe Kwanzaa!)


50 posted on 12/22/2006 11:10:02 AM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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