Michael Schiavo waiting by the wings...
Posted on 12/22/2006 5:55:06 PM PST by TheDoctorNoh
Robert Schindler, who led efforts to save the life of brain-disabled daughter Terri Schiavo, is in a hospital intensive care unit in Florida after suffering a stroke.
Doctors are trying to stabilize Schindler after the stroke Sunday and what may have been a residual stroke Tuesday, said his son, Bobby Schindler Jr.
Bobby Schindler told WND today his father has lost strength in his right side and his speech is slurred, but the cognitive part of his brain is functioning well, and he has no problem with memory.
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Michael Schiavo waiting by the wings...
He better not slip into a coma, Michael is a certified nurse with a Florida license.
Cool looking Greeper graphic
May God bless this brave and faithful Christian man and heal him. His faith and courage were a great inspiration to me. His love for his daughter Terri was surpassed only by his love for Jesus Christ, and through this Love he took on the devil himself, who was posing under the guise of "mercy killing".
Praying for Mr. Schiavo and his family.They have my admiration for their strength and spirit. May God bless them.
Prayers for the Schiavo family - they've been through enough already.
Prayers for his health.
That poor man must be sweatng bullets right about now.
Hey! You guy! It's the SCHINDLER family. Not shiavo - SCHINDLER!!!
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Sorry 8mm, disregard this ping. Some how I missed your earlier ping regarding Mr. Schindler. This was the first I had heard of it.
We discussed it 20 years ago and this is what he wants.
It will be beautiful.
Amen to that!
The man is actually quite well liked. But then, Ted Bundy was a charmer. Sociopaths are often popular. (Bubba Clinton also comes unbidden to mind.)
Personality is not Greer's problem. Murder is.
"Michael, you are a lazy, irresponsible slob. Get a job! I have to pay for everything around here, even getting my hair done. I don't want to live this way. You spend all your time on the couch drinking a beer and watching football on the tube! Grow up! You have a family to take care of."
Greer doesn't act like an immature ahole. But like someone who actually cares what the law says rather than a Lynch Mob.
That is what infuriates you.
Mr. Schindler will receive all the health care possible just as his daughter did for a decade. I hope he recovers.
I said nothing about kicking anyone in the shins today or any other time particularly not Mr. Schindler.
Why you imagine I wish him or his family any harm is beyond me?
I doubt I will take the spiritual advice of one who seems devoted to slandering the justice system, the medical system and anyone else refusing to bow down to the wishes of the Schindlers.
"Spoken like a true fascist believer in eugenics." You apparently know nothing of either "fascists" or "eugenics" if you believe the Schiavo case involved either kind of thinking. But I wouldn't expect it, either, from one believing society has limitless resources to pour into lost causes.
My recogition of this idiocy is not "kicking" anyone anywhere.
Your dismissive attitude speaks volumes.
You and Michael Schiavo would probably find each other to be delightful company.
In Hell.
Really, I think society can afford a few quarts of water a day and a bit of food for a disabled woman.
Mr. Schindler is one of the finest men I've ever met. A truly great and godly man.
Even in the midst of his family's deepest suffering I watched him calmly minister hope and caring to countless people.
Prayers for him and his truly great family. Their fine qualities are a further testament to Robert Schindler's well-spent life.
Amen to that Sir.
The Schindler's are guilty of nothing but trying to save their daughter's life.
Unfortunately, their efforts were not enough to overcome the the pro-death zealots like Greer, Felos and Michael Schiavo who will eventually answer for their actions, and the ignorant chowderheads who marched in lockstep with them will answer for their figurative chants of 'DEATH!' as well.
It won't be a pretty sight.
Prayers for the brave family.
Don't be deceptive you know very well far more than that is involved. Costs for such cases are in the six figures per year.
Ooooo I'm real concerned about YOUR view of where I might go. Can't deal with simple comments about costs society cannot afford so you get all theological on me?
"Costs for such cases"? All she needed was to be given food and water. They deprived her of that, so she died. Get real.
There was more than enough money pledged to provide for Terri's care AND rehabilitation for the remainder of her life. And just so we're clear on the matter, Michael Schiavo spent Terri's malpractice settlement on lawyers so he could ensure that she died.
Schindler interference drained a lot of the money as Schiavo had to fight them in court. Florida was paying her bills at the hospice.
But even Schiavo's award was taken from premium payers unjustly through a fraudulent court finding by a brain dead jury.
The money was specifically awarded to cover her care and rehabilitation. The Schindlers went to court when Schiavo wanted to kill her.
But even Schiavo's award was taken from premium payers unjustly through a fraudulent court finding by a brain dead jury.
The malpractice carrier should have appealed if they felt the court reached the wrong decision. They didn't.
Schiavo accepted the fact that, after years of rehabilitative efforts, there was never going to be any improvement. So did the courts.
Insurance company settle unjust claims all the time if they feel they are just going to get a black eye from fighting them. Brain dead juries are the bane of society.
What kind of "black eye" are you talking about? This is a medical malpractice insurer that we are talking about, not State Farm or Allstate. They fight legitimate and heartbreaking claims all the time, they do not just "throw money at the problem" the way auto insurance companies do.
Brain dead juries are the bane of society.
Maybe they are and maybe they're not. It really doesn't matter because Terri's brain didn't die until March 31, 2005 after 13 days of forced starvation and dehydration.
Medical malpractice pays lots of goofy claims even when juries fall for John Edwards channeling the spirits of the dead.
Terri's essence was gone for years before the body was allowed to join it.
Well then, if it's all about money, why was her adulterous husband unwilling to let others pay for her care. He was even offered $2 million to walk away.
Who said it was all about money to Schiavo? I would not want a loved one of mine kept in that state indefinitely. Who would want to "live" like that?
"I would not want a loved one of mine kept in that state indefinitely. Who would want to "live" like that?"
No one but are you willing to pull the trigger?
Would you "love" your wife enough to remain faithful to her? Or would you move in with another woman and have children with her?
Who would want to "live" like that?
So, you are willing to play God and make decisions for someone who never made these wishes known?
And euphoric
Oh my gosh!! You are too funny. I was thinking something similiar. I was thinking "Where is Michael Shivo? Lock the doors of the hospital IMMEDIATELY!!!!!" Hope you get better Mr. Schiavo.
Mr. Schiavo had his wife killed and should burn in hell for it. Mr. Schindler (Terri's father) needs our prayers.
I got the names confused! Whoever is Terri's father is who I am praying for. Thank you for the post to make this correction.
Absolutely I have watched the woman I loved most in my life go through something similiar and would not have prolonged her suffering one moment though I adored her.
No big deal. :-)
Don't lie. I have not made Schiavo out to be anything other than one not joining the pretense that Terri was still there in any real sense.
No "murder" happened outside the minds of fanatics. The same kind of decisions are made hundreds of times a day but the MSM does not publicize them 24/7 as they did this charade.
Will I mentioned expense and limited resources I never once claimed this was about money. It was about human dignity and the rights of people to make decisions about such circumstances as Terri was in. However, that does not mean that every case should have all the money possible thrown at it not matter how many others are deprived of help they could have effectively used.
Hopefully you won't have to face interference with your family decisions which you applaud so enthusiastically wrt Terri. And you lie once again in claiming I feel any kind of joy at her demise.
I can only speak for my actions and never had to face the realities that Michael Schiavo did. And I do know for a FACT that she would have never wanted to be maintained in the condition Terri was in. I am not moved to hatred of the man for his actions and do not consider them particularly relevant even though they outraged many whose business they were not. Who would not feel sypathetic to one who realizes his wife is never coming back.
Besides this is no win question for me since if I say "I would have been faithful" you can just say I lie. But during the twenty years of my marriage I never ONCE had even an inclination towards unfaithfulness. My wife was not just my beloved but my best friend whom I chose to spend time with over anyone. No agony is worse than watching suffering which you can do NOTHING about.
"Playing God"? Talk about turning reality on its head. Terri would have been LONG gone had God's will been obeyed. People DIE when afflicted like that UNLESS man tries to stave off the inevitable. This would never have even been a case a couple of decades ago and without someone else paying the bills won't be for any but the wealthy even today.
Unless you can point to some piece of evidence that nobody else is aware of, this is at best speculation on the part of her estranged husband that even he did not "recall" until years after the fact.
But during the twenty years of my marriage I never ONCE had even an inclination towards unfaithfulness. My wife was not just my beloved but my best friend whom I chose to spend time with over anyone. No agony is worse than watching suffering which you can do NOTHING about.
I feel the same way about my wife which is why I would be at her bedside and not out impregnating another woman.
Terri would have been LONG gone had God's will been obeyed. People DIE when afflicted like that UNLESS man tries to stave off the inevitable. This would never have even been a case a couple of decades ago
Again, you are WRONG. Feeding tubes have been successfully used for over two hundred years. The main drawback in earlier times was risk of infection; however, antibiotics will take care of that. So, unless you consider food, water and normal antibiotics an attempt by man to "stave off inevitable," this is really nothing more than normal medical care.
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/29/Tampabay/Feeding_tubes_snake_t.shtml
The Schindlers were not able to convince a court of the falsity of Schiavo's claim. But YOU know better.
Schiavo tried everything possible to bring her back it failed. He should not be condemned for eventually realizing nothing was going to work. His actions are not my or your business.
Tubes are for temporary use when there is a chance of recovery not keeping autonomous reflexes going.
A cornerstone of logic and our judicial system is that it is nearly impossible to prove a negative.
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