Probe of Islamic ties 'obstructed' by feds

WorldNetDaily ^ | December 23, 2006 | Art Moore

[kc8ukw]

Federal officials were "outrageously obstructive" during a congressional probe examining possible Islamic terrorist and foreign ties to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, according to a congressman who disclosed to WND some of the highlights of a subcommittee report scheduled for release next week.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

So even in 1995 the government was doing everything possible to keep the truth from the public about terrorism. Can't let the masses think that the head-choppers did it, they might demand blocking the borders to the head-choppers and the throat-slitters.

[3AngelaD]

I have a gut feeling that Rohrabacher is right. But I am trying to think through why our government would not want us to know that Islam was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

[3AngelaD]

But that didn't happen after 9.11, when by all rights it should have. At that point we should have deported all of them. Why does our government want head-choppers and throat-slitters here? I would have happily supported their mass deportation at the time, and still would.

[varon]

Federal officials were "outrageously obstructive" during a congressional probe examining possible Islamic terrorist and foreign ties to the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing,...........

Makes sense to me. If they acknowledged Islamic involvement, then they couldn't have gone after the militias as they did. The feds made every patriotic citizen with a weapon, willing to defend his/her country feel like they were the enemy.

[BW2221]

In short, political correctness rules.

[Joe Boucher]

Not just Oklahoma bombing, but the jet in N.Y. is tied to muslim terrorists too as well as other attacks.
Don't want it to get out as the American folks will rebel against big oil and the mid east.

[Overwatcher]

That's the part I don't understand. Does the government think that people can't handle the truth?

[pinz-n-needlez]

I think they're more afraid that the people will discover the truth...

[3AngelaD]

Yes, and who benefits from the continued presence of Islam in this country? Who benefits from allowing the ones who are here to stay here and cause trouble, run hate-America schools, the six imams on the airplane. Who benefits from the slow wearing down of our culture's defenses, with the occasional big bang like on 9.11, by the towel-heads? I am trying to figure our why our government's policies are so anti-America and pro-Islam, tolerating terrorists in our midst and telling us we are racists for not wanting to ride on buses with people wearing masks.

[Dutch Boy]

The Egyptian that crashed the airliner can be added too.

[Rapscallion]

But I am trying to think through why our government would not want us to know that Islam was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Government fears that if the voters knew the truth, they would demand action against the Middle East. The demand for action would cause a world-war. That is not a good thing.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

I have been thinking about those convicted of heinous crimes and traitors.

I would like to see these this of person put on a lie detector and filled with every type of truth serums to check their story, find the people who aided and abetted them.
This might free a few innocent and get the master minds behind the crimes.

Right now a guilty person sentenced to death might get more than 20 years of 3 hots and entertainment.
Lawyers that get 20 years of tax payers money will hate this idea.

Wasn't the "main" person convicted of the OKC bombing put to death so much faster than usual for a capital crime.

[3AngelaD]

Demand action against the Middle East. Like, maybe, invade Iraq and Afghanistan? What I don't understand is the government's willingness -- to the point of deception -- to tolerate this behavior and these people on American soil.

[Rapscallion]

Does the government think that people can't handle the truth?

Almost right. Government fears the people's demand for action if the truth gets out. A world-war would probably result. And our Army is just not big enough for that.

[Rapscallion]

I am trying to figure our why our government's policies are so anti-America and pro-Islam, tolerating terrorists in our midst and telling us we are racists for not wanting to ride on buses with people wearing masks.

Do you remember the gas lines of the 1970s? It's not about oil profits; it's about energy availability to keep the country running.

[Overwatcher]

I'm in favor of some domestic housecleaning.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Thank you for posting this.

[3AngelaD]

So, you think if we sent all the towel heads and their fellow travelers home, the oil producers would cut off our oil supply, cutting off their only source of income at the same time? They don't make and produce anything else much, maybe a few nice rugs.

[TXnMA]

Heads up, folks! Jayna is back in the news!

[DugwayDuke]

"But I am trying to think through why our government would not want us to know that Islam was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing."

The Clinton administration was under heavy pressure that they blamed on the 'vast right wing conspiracy'. Every where they looked they found evidence of this 'vast right wing conspiracy'. Even if it wasn't there. Other things that were there were discounted or overlooked since these things did not fit the template. IOW, if you're looking for a Timothy McVey, you'll find one. If you're not looking for an Islamic terrorist, you keep looking until you find a McVey.

[Gritty]

[TXnMA]

Thanks for posting this!

I wonder what the FIBbers told Rohrabacher they did with all the surveillance camera tapes they have refused to release?

[3AngelaD]

Okay, I buy that, but why then has the Bush admistration gone along for the ride since taking over? Who benefits?

[rbmillerjr]

Definately something that makes you say hmmm.

I'm not big for conspiracy theories but I think this needs to be seriously investigated.

[outdriving]

I dunno, beyond a talking point, what purpose does all this serve? Truth? We're a long way from there. All we have are questions. Even if the worst was true, what difference would it make?

After 9/11, we know what we need to know about the Islamists. We only lack the will to really do anything about it.

As far as Neo-Nazi groups go, which is not very far, it's hard for me to see how extreme ideologues like Islamists and Nazis could get beyond the hatred of the other long enough to mount an "operation" together.

I still buy the official version here, that Oklahoma City was a local "operation". And even if it wasn't, we already have more than enough reason to resist Islamic influence and fight Islamist violence.

[TXnMA]

I still buy the official version here, that Oklahoma City was a local "operation".

You obviously weren't around here (FR) for the hundreds of posts re OKC. The FBI's case is bogus -- and built on demonstrable lies.

[outdriving]

BTW, It should also not be forgotten that the Clinton justice department did unjustly slaughter 80 some innocent people in the pursuit of several criminals in Waco, Texas.

[outdriving]

You missed my point.

It was: "so what?".

We are still fighting the Crusades all over again. The "truth" about Oklahoma City won't change anything.

[TXnMA]

"BTW, It should also not be forgotten that the Clinton justice department did unjustly slaughter 80 some innocent people in the pursuit of several criminals in Waco, Texas."

More accurately, that should read, "...in the pursuit of a few (according to BATF) "illegal" gun parts in Waco, Texas."

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" The "truth" about Oklahoma City won't change anything."

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"...It should also not be forgotten..."
versus
"so what?" "truth...won't change anything."

Contradictory back-to-back posts, newbie... Your disdain for the truth would do Freeh/Reno's "Justice" Department proud.

[PISANO]

But I am trying to think through why our government would not want us to know that Islam was involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.

Two words; "BILL CLINTON"

[3AngelaD]

But why then has the Bush admistration collaborated in the coverup since taking over? Who benefits?

[outdriving]

"Contradictory back-to-back posts, newbie... Your disdain for the truth would do Freeh/Reno's "Justice" Department proud."

Contradictory? Not at all. Just because I call the truth as I see it in two incidents? Part of the "explanation" of Oklahoma City is outrage over Waco. Makes sense.

"Newbie" I love that. I have spent 51 years on this earth. How old are you? Just because I have only recently burdened the other's opinions here with mine, they are more suspect?

[JimRed]

The feds made every patriotic citizen with a weapon, willing to defend his/her country feel like they were the enemy.

What else would you expect of a Clinton-led justice department?

[Doc91678]

Now that is a question that should be answered by Bubba Clinton.
There have been many articles about the interference of European factions in the OK bombing. There has also been information regarding the Philippine connection with Terry,?(can't remember his last name [Nichols?]). Perhaps if he were wrung out again we might get more information? For all intents and purposes the OK bombing looked just like the Marine Barracks bombing in Lebanon and the Khobar Towers. There is a definite link.

[TXnMA]

I have spent 51 years on this earth. How old are you?

Let's just say that I qualified to vote before you appeared on this planet...

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The "truth" about Oklahoma City won't change anything.

Au contraire. The "truth" about Oklahoma City should put a significant number of Clinton-era Feds -- and a several State actors -- behind bars. That's a "change" worth working toward. (Unless, of course, you, yourself, are a FedShill...)

[kalee]

Bingo

[outdriving]

"I have spent 51 years on this earth. How old are you?
Let's just say that I qualified to vote before you appeared on this planet..."

So you're at least 72, right? Since the right to vote was lowered to eighteen the year I turned that age.

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"The "truth" about Oklahoma City won't change anything.

Au contraire. The "truth" about Oklahoma City should put a significant number of Clinton-era Feds -- and a several State actors -- behind bars. That's a "change" worth working toward. (Unless, of course, you, yourself, are a FedShill...)"

Nice try. I will ignore the personal attack, for now. Again, I say: "so what?". Answer my damn question. And do not try to guilt me by association that does not exist with some (FedShill?) thing going on.

[outdriving]

"I have spent 51 years on this earth. How old are you?
Let's just say that I qualified to vote before you appeared on this planet..."

I messed up in my last post. You said you were qualified to vote in 1954, before I appeared on this planet.

So if you where at least 21 in 1954, you are at least 73 years old. Correct?

[attiladhun2]

The Clinton Administration's fixation on a "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" composed of gun-toting, anti-government types was the chief reason obvious Mid-East involvment in the OKC bombing was not relentlessly explored. Another indication Bubba and Co. were totally unserious about Jihadist-inspired terrorism. Sandy Burglar's theft of the Millenium Plot docs confirms this.

[combat_boots]

...the official version here, that Oklahoma City was a local "operation".

OK, then. Here are some things to remember:

1. Norman OK and the presence of militant Islam.
2. John Doe #2
3. Mass explosions due to extremist groups such as Neo-Nazis that occurred previously
4. How such an operation as OKC could have been pulled off, given the infiltration of Neo-Nazis in particular by the Feds
5. the work of Steve Emerson, some of which was specifically done in the US SW
6. That shop owner who spoke of the man with McV.
7. How many people who knew pieces of information about OKC that have died since
8. When the Gorelick wall went up.

I haven't read Jayna Davis' book or much about it. But this thing smells.

You may be right, but I buy this official line about as much as the SC Warren report about the magic bullet.

[combat_boots]

Folks, please keep to the topic. This thread is important, as is the issue, even if we disagree.

[Excellence]

How soon after Oklahoma City was Mc Vey put to death, and how does that compare with any other execution case. That should have gone on for years, and yet it was fast-tracked.

[combat_boots]

You're right! I forgot about that one! It was!

[outdriving]

That's a very good point, but it does not advance the jihadist connection, at all.

[TXnMA]

Close enough.

You have FReepmail.

[doug from upland]

This Iraqi involvement in the OKC bombing would forever end the Clinton legacy and Hillary's presidential aspirations. The president won't let his FBI and Justice Department do what they need to do, and there are loads of people in both organizations protecting Clinton. Jayna Davis has the story nailed. In this age of information, it is both remarkable and scandalous that the truth has been hidden for so long. The Bush/Clinton protection racket is truly disgusting. They must have a great deal on each other.

[TXnMA]

I haven't read Jayna Davis' book or much about it. But this thing smells.

You owe it to yourself to do so.

And, IMO, you should read this, as well:

(The photo is a link...)

(To see why I feel I can vouch for it, see my FRProfile...)

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outdriving, see any plea for the "TRUTH" in that photo? Still think "TRUTH" re OKC doesn't matter?

[Excellence]

it's hard for me to see how extreme ideologues like Islamists and Nazis could get beyond the hatred of the other long enough to mount an "operation" together.

I believe it's been established that Islamic/Nazi ties go back to WWII and the Holocaust.