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Muslims forced to lift veil at airports
Scotsman ^ | 12/24/06 | Brian Brady

Posted on 12/23/2006 4:41:15 PM PST by LibWhacker

VEILED women will be forced to reveal their identities at UK airports under a government plan to tighten security, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.

Home Office insiders last night confirmed that immigration officials will be ordered to impose their legal right to lift the veils of passengers after it emerged a suspected police killer may have escaped the UK dressed as a Muslim woman.

But the plan has been attacked by unions, which claim it would impose intolerable demands on their members, particularly female officers who would be the only ones allowed to look under veils.

Ministers have been forced on to the back foot in the past week after it was revealed that asylum seeker Mustaf Jama, wanted for the murder of Pc Sharon Beshenivsky, flew from Heathrow to Somalia using his sister's passport. He is believed to have been wearing a niqab, which has just a slit for eyes.

It subsequently emerged that immigration staff are legally entitled to ask any female passenger to lift her veil to verify her identity against passport photographs. But officers usually wave passengers through because they do not have the time to check everyone.

Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair yesterday joined the growing calls for change, saying airline passengers must remove any head-dress that covers their face. Prime Minister Tony Blair, who has consistently warned of the grave terror threat facing the country, said: "We must find methods of allowing people to take off the veil in a way that's dignified."

But a senior Home Office source insisted that existing law gave immigration officers wide-ranging rights. However, the department told Scotland on Sunday last week that it does not hold any centralised records of those checked or refused entry for failing to meet entry requirements.

Home Secretary John Reid is planning to enforce these legal rights before considering any more significant changes.

"Immigration officers can check beneath veils and they do this at every port of entry, every day of the week," the source added. "It is done sensitively and in private.

"Where they don't do it, I suspect it is more often to do with a lack of suspicion than lax procedures or overwork. But we recognise that this sort of thing should be the rule, not the exception."

The Immigration Act 1971 requires everyone entering the UK to satisfy an immigration officer as to their nationality and identity. Where there are sensitive or cultural reasons why it is not possible for a person to remove a veil or other garment at the immigration control, they will be taken to a private area where their identity can be verified.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: airport; celebratediversity; islamofascist; lift; multicultimadness; muslims; ropma; veil
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"We must find methods of allowing people to take off the veil in a way that's dignified."

Just the opposite is true, imo. Strip search them right out on the tarmac. For all the world to see. Make 'em bend over and grab their ankles.

That, in turn, would make them want to rejoin the human race, and perhaps give up on their backward religion. Or it'd make them stop visiting the US and the UK altogether, which would be every bit as desirable.

1 posted on 12/23/2006 4:41:17 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
VEILED women will be forced to reveal their identities at UK airports under a government plan ...

It's about time they did something sensible instead of bowing to the PC-nannies!

2 posted on 12/23/2006 4:44:04 PM PST by Ken522
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To: LibWhacker
But officers usually wave passengers through because they do not have the time to check everyone.

Perhaps you can get through security FASTER if you wear a burka???

3 posted on 12/23/2006 4:44:13 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: LibWhacker
"We must find methods of allowing people to take off the veil in a way that's dignified."

Mace,
in a dignified manner.

4 posted on 12/23/2006 4:45:25 PM PST by norton
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To: LibWhacker
It subsequently emerged that immigration staff are legally entitled to ask any female passenger to lift her veil to verify her identity against passport photographs

Wow. Really?
5 posted on 12/23/2006 4:45:42 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: LibWhacker
"It is done sensitively and in private."


Oh, pluuuuuuuuuzeeeeeee! Just tell 'em to rip it off.
6 posted on 12/23/2006 4:46:32 PM PST by A knight without armor
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To: LibWhacker
I sense another protest in the streets!
7 posted on 12/23/2006 4:47:50 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: LibWhacker

Maybe they need to post HUGE pictures of the aftermath of 7/7 on the walls of the airports....just a reminder...


8 posted on 12/23/2006 4:48:33 PM PST by Dallas59 (Islam Should Not Be Allowed In Western Countries)
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To: LibWhacker

Big whoop, I have to take off my shoes at the airport!


9 posted on 12/23/2006 4:50:21 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Dallas59

Yep, tis ripe and time to insult a few minorities whose culture stinks.


10 posted on 12/23/2006 4:50:44 PM PST by rovenstinez
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To: LibWhacker; All

11 posted on 12/23/2006 4:50:44 PM PST by Cobra64 (Why is the War on Terror being managed by the DEFENSE Department?)
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To: LibWhacker
...confirmed that immigration officials will be ordered to impose their legal right to lift the veils of passengers

A site better than a crotch grab to check for gender

12 posted on 12/23/2006 4:50:49 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: LibWhacker

Tough Toenails, Muslims!!! You didn't curse your fellow Muslims when they killed innocents....deal with it!


13 posted on 12/23/2006 4:51:03 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: metmom; little jeremiah; Fred Nerks; Alouette

"Did you see this?" ping


14 posted on 12/23/2006 4:53:31 PM PST by indcons
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To: LibWhacker
Strong stomach BUMP!
15 posted on 12/23/2006 4:53:44 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: LibWhacker
Poor, poor, immigration officers. Are they allowed to wear welding goggles during this process pool?
16 posted on 12/23/2006 4:54:21 PM PST by F.J. Mitchell ( BP agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, Patriots betrayed and punished for their competence!!!!)
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To: LibWhacker

full cavity search on the ones so stupid as to try and get on with veil


17 posted on 12/23/2006 4:57:00 PM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Suzy Quzy

BTTT

Well said. It is time that muslims realize that the rest of the civilized world is at least 1500 years ahead of them in all spheres of human existence - political, economic, philosiphical, and scientific.


18 posted on 12/23/2006 4:57:20 PM PST by indcons
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To: Cobra64

ROFL


19 posted on 12/23/2006 4:58:58 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: LibWhacker
This is entirely irrelevant. Immigration officials always had this power. The problem in the recent case (if the theory on how he left the country is in fact true) wasn't that the guy thwarted ID checks by wearing a veil, it's that there were no ID checks.

Personally I have never been through an immigration check when departing a UK airport.

20 posted on 12/23/2006 4:59:03 PM PST by Canard
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To: SevenofNine

SevenofNine, look at #11.


21 posted on 12/23/2006 4:59:35 PM PST by monkapotamus
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To: LibWhacker
["We must find methods of allowing people to take off the veil in a way that's dignified."]

Yeah, just like the dignified way that our elderly citizens now have to balance on one foot while trying to remove their shoes with one hand in order to board an aircraft. All thanks to Islamist scum who are infesting the civilized world like a plague of locusts. After they start to behave in a civilized manner, we can talk about their dignity. Until then, piss on all of them.

22 posted on 12/23/2006 5:01:18 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: LibWhacker

If Christians can have their Christmas trees, Nativity scenes, crucifixes and even spoken Christmas greetings taken away from them, I'm sure the Muzzies can lift their veils. They need to just learn to deal with it like we are being "forced" to do.


23 posted on 12/23/2006 5:01:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: indcons
...in all spheres of human existence - political, economic, philosiphical, and scientific.

Erm.

Except for spelling. But who needs that one, anyway?

24 posted on 12/23/2006 5:02:14 PM PST by Monkey King
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To: LibWhacker


Umm... OK, you can put it back on now...
25 posted on 12/23/2006 5:03:11 PM PST by djf (The 16th amendment didn't authorize attacks on Americans)
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To: indcons

They are BARBARIANS!!


26 posted on 12/23/2006 5:03:23 PM PST by Suzy Quzy
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To: LibWhacker

Our desire to LIVE outweighs the muslims tender sensibilites, end of story, you don't like our rules, stay in the Middle East. Thank you and goodnight.

What ever happened to directness in this country? Everyone has to do a tap dance around everything and contemplate this and that, security issue, lift the veil-no, sorry, you have to leave, goodbye.


27 posted on 12/23/2006 5:04:17 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: LibWhacker

28 posted on 12/23/2006 5:05:08 PM PST by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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To: LibWhacker

What's that? A decision that makes sense? PING.....


29 posted on 12/23/2006 5:06:27 PM PST by AmericanDave (It's like Deja Vu, all over again............ Yogi Berra)
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To: LibWhacker

Unreal the Islamic arse kissing that goes on over there. Hello, they just blew up a bus and here last week they are all but gauranteed to do it again, yet the wrist slap approach continues.

Read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1756875/posts

Like I said many times, and many freepers hve cursed me out over this; You let the muzzies know if ONE, even ONE suicide bomber detonates, then Mecca will be nuked. You put the responsibilty on their laps. Sure the Muzzies may kill a few people in the UK or the US, but their actions will directly result in an Islamic holocaust. Nobody has the balls though. Take this action, the war would be over tomorrow.


30 posted on 12/23/2006 5:06:30 PM PST by Screamname (My name is Screamname and I approve this message.)
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To: Cobra64

31 posted on 12/23/2006 5:08:30 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: Man50D

"I sense another protest in the streets!"

'I'm against protests, but I don't know how to show it.'

..............Mitch Hedburg


32 posted on 12/23/2006 5:10:42 PM PST by HonestConservative (We make war that we might live in peace.)
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To: Screamname

Well, my friend... You won't hear me cursing you out. I agree with you 100%. An extremely tough approach will work, wrist slaps won't.


33 posted on 12/23/2006 5:12:52 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
This a red herring. Take a look at pictures of the women of Iran and see how many have a veil on.
34 posted on 12/23/2006 5:18:54 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: indcons

Sadly, as we all learned on 9/11 - flying with muslims is dangerous.

35 posted on 12/23/2006 5:21:58 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: LibWhacker

Place a line on the floor. When they reach that line they take off their veil. Place another line on the other side of the inspection station when they reach that line they can put it back on. Plenty of dignity and they dont slow down the line. If they dont like it they stay home.


36 posted on 12/23/2006 5:22:37 PM PST by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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But the plan has been attacked by unions, which claim it would impose intolerable demands on their members, particularly female officers who would be the only ones allowed to look under veils.

Even I can't top that one...

37 posted on 12/23/2006 5:25:29 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Fred Nerks

That toon about the Islamists is simply superb. LOL.

P.S.: I wish it were true (sighing!)


38 posted on 12/23/2006 5:25:32 PM PST by indcons
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To: Suzy Quzy

Now you have done it … you have insulted barbarians everywhere. Shame on you. ;)


39 posted on 12/23/2006 5:26:45 PM PST by doc1019
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To: RunningWolf

from the article:

"Ministers have been forced on to the back foot in the past week after it was revealed that asylum seeker Mustaf Jama, wanted for the murder of Pc Sharon Beshenivsky, flew from Heathrow to Somalia using his sister's passport. He is believed to have been wearing a niqab, which has just a slit for eyes."

You wrote:

"This a red herring. Take a look at pictures of the women of Iran and see how many have a veil on."

I fail to see what one has to do with the other...


40 posted on 12/23/2006 5:27:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: LibWhacker

About time for another jihadanazi loss in court.


41 posted on 12/23/2006 5:27:06 PM PST by Defender2 (Defending Our Bill of Rights, Our Constitution, Our Country and Our Freedom!!!!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Maybe we should start refering to any burka'd woman as a 'pig in a poke'...


42 posted on 12/23/2006 5:29:34 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Fred Nerks

Well part of their protests is that the lifting of the veil is an indignity forced upon them when in truth they are trumping it up as something to exploit on a few levels.


43 posted on 12/23/2006 5:32:48 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf

Eternal victimhood?

Sorry, I misunderstood.


44 posted on 12/23/2006 5:38:28 PM PST by Fred Nerks (MEDIA + ENEMY = ENEMEDIA!)
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To: norton
I was thinking "Fire".

...in a dignified manner.

45 posted on 12/23/2006 5:41:06 PM PST by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: sgtbono2002
Place a line on the floor. When they reach that line they take off their veil. Place another line on the other side of the inspection station when they reach that line they can put it back on. Plenty of dignity and they dont slow down the line. If they dont like it they stay home.



... or go Greyhound!

46 posted on 12/23/2006 5:42:58 PM PST by killerw (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: He shall prosper that love thee. PSALMS 122:6)
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To: LibWhacker
It's so ridiculous that they don't have to prove who they are by lifting their veils. arrgggghhhh

I've seem a few muslim women in our local mall after they take off their "garb" in the ladies room. Most seem very sweet, and some are gorgeous, but that's beside the point.

We need to know WHO is under those veils in places where terrorists would most likely harm us.

47 posted on 12/23/2006 5:44:20 PM PST by Texas_shutterbug
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To: Fred Nerks
At some point we might to expect an uprising or insurgency to begin here in the US over a perceived slight such as the mullahs on the US Air flight incident.

Just the other day I think read that they found missile launching tubes down off of I-65 near Mobile Alabama
48 posted on 12/23/2006 5:46:56 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: indcons

"It is time that muslims realize that the rest of the civilized world is at least 1500 years ahead of them.."

I doubt that the "civilized" world is so many years ahead of the Muslim mindset, considering that it invites Islam to proliferate among them and continue to describe it as a ROP.


49 posted on 12/23/2006 5:49:18 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: LibFreeOrDie

"Perhaps you can get through security FASTER if you wear a burka???"

I saw that happen at BWI (Baltimore-Washington Airport) .. my gray haired, native born, White Anglo-Saxon Protestant hub and I were boarding a flight ... stopped for searches, etc .. while a woman (I suppose) in a burqa just walked right on thru security ... can I tell you it ticked us off?


50 posted on 12/23/2006 5:51:53 PM PST by EDINVA
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