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Bald Eagle to Be Taken Off Endangered List
Washington Post ^ | Dec. 25, 2006 | Peter Slevin

Posted on 12/25/2006 5:09:37 PM PST by digger48

MINNEAPOLIS -- Seven years after the U.S. government moved to take the bald eagle off the endangered species list, the Bush administration intends to complete the step by February, prodded by a frustrated libertarian property owner in Minnesota.

The delisting, supported by mainstream environmental groups, would represent a formal declaration that the eagle population has sufficiently rebounded, increasing more than 15-fold since its 1963 nadir to more than 7,000 nesting pairs.

Bald eagles, like this one shown hunting for fish along Missouri's Wappapello Lake, have rebounded to more than 7,000 nesting pairs after their numbers fell dangerously low. (By Paul Davis -- Daily American Republic Via Associated Press)

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The next challenge is to ensure the national symbol's continued protection.

"By February 16th, the bald eagle will be delisted," said Marshall Jones, deputy director of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. "We'll be clear so people won't think, 'It's open season on bald eagles.' No way."

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The greatest threat to a creature with few natural enemies came from humankind, particularly with the widespread use of the pesticide DDT, which weakened eagle eggs. In time, DDT was banned, and the eagle, whose population once numbered as few as 417 nesting pairs in the contiguous United States, was added to the endangered list.

FReeper opinion on this conclusion, please. Was Rachel Carlson FOS about the effects of DDT on eggshells?

1 posted on 12/25/2006 5:09:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48
Some people will not be pleased.


2 posted on 12/25/2006 5:12:59 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: digger48

WOOHOO!!

Is there a conclusive link, or only anecdotal evidence that ddt caused the problem?


3 posted on 12/25/2006 5:13:16 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Merry Christmas! SAY NO TO RUDY!)
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To: digger48

Crossing the Mississippi this afternoon, we saw many bald eagles in the trees, on the Illinois and Missouri sides. This part of the river is known as a winter eagle area, and at times you can see hundreds of them in the trees along the river..


4 posted on 12/25/2006 5:13:28 PM PST by cardinal4
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To: digger48
1) yes - totally FOS
2) There are seventeen thousand bald eagles of breeding age just in the lower 48 - and another 10-20,000 in canada.
5 posted on 12/25/2006 5:14:17 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: digger48

Yes,she was full of it.The birds in the test were deprived of calcium,so naturally the egg shells were way to thin.In the meantime maybe 50 million people died of insect borne illness that would never have become sick if DDT had been available.


6 posted on 12/25/2006 5:14:19 PM PST by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: digger48

Yes.


7 posted on 12/25/2006 5:17:21 PM PST by Freedom4US (u)
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To: digger48

This is great news. Bald Eagle is delicious with a sourdough stuffing. It's tastes a lot like Passenger Pigeon.


8 posted on 12/25/2006 5:19:17 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: digger48
The delisting, supported by mainstream environmental groups, would represent a formal declaration that the eagle population has sufficiently rebounded, increasing more than 15-fold since its 1963 nadir to more than 7,000 nesting pairs.

And let's remember that the decrease in the populations of bald eagles, peregrine falcons, brown pelicans, and many other predatory birds antedated the use of DDT by decades.

The greatest threat to a creature with few natural enemies came from humankind, particularly with the widespread use of the pesticide DDT, which weakened eagle eggs.

This is simply false. Rachel Carson was, indeed, FOS. She even misrepresented research on the matter. The thinning of egg shells in the captive birds was due to decreased calcium in the feed. In fact, it was during the years that DDT was used that bird populations started to recover.

People, though, are still endangered and being killed every year by malaria because of the efforts of Carson and William Ruckelshaus. Though Carson is long dead, Ruckelshaus is still kicking around and living off the deaths of tens of millions worldwide because of his unilateral, personal decision to ban DDT. Malaria victims should start a class action lawsuit against Ruckelshaus and Environmental Defense to recover damages because their connivance.
9 posted on 12/25/2006 5:20:18 PM PST by aruanan
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To: cardinal4

I've heard of sightings here in Indiana, too.

Used to see them in Florida when I was a kid in the 60's. There was a pair on the Imperial River we'd see when we were going to the Gulf by boat.


10 posted on 12/25/2006 5:21:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48; operation clinton cleanup; mfnorman; Dallas59

11 posted on 12/25/2006 5:22:19 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: digger48

In New Hampshire, there's been a dramatic increase in nesting pairs in the past 3 years: 10 successful nests, 21 birds fledged this year (compared to 11 fledged in each of 2005 and 2004.

There's a nesting site near the city of Manchester, NH. I saw an adult flying over the Merrimack River in Nashua a few years ago.


12 posted on 12/25/2006 5:22:41 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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To: digger48
So, when do we eat?
13 posted on 12/25/2006 5:24:16 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: digger48
I just read the first chapter of John Stossel's Mythes, Lies, and Downright stupidity. He mentioned that DDT can be harmful, but only in the massive over usage that we were using at the time. A little can go a long way, DDT is far more beneficial.
14 posted on 12/25/2006 5:24:32 PM PST by tranzorZ
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To: Farmer Dean
In the meantime maybe 50 million people died of insect borne illness that would never have become sick if DDT had been available.

From all of my reading, that is exactly the case. "What fools these mortals be."

15 posted on 12/25/2006 5:27:05 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: Solamente; ElkGroveDan

So, what would be the preferred shell? #4 steel shot 10guage?


16 posted on 12/25/2006 5:27:31 PM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

Chairwoman Boxer will have something to say about this. Hmmmmmm


17 posted on 12/25/2006 5:29:21 PM PST by italianquaker (Democrats its time to fish or cut bait, no more blaming Prez Bush.)
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To: digger48

"Was Rachel Carlson FOS about the effects of DDT on eggshells?"

In high concentrations DDT does result in thin eggshells. The quantities required are higher than normally found. It should also be noted that MANY other substances result in thin eggshells. The eagle population was in serious trouble before DDT use became widespread.

DDT did not cause the eagle population to decline.


18 posted on 12/25/2006 5:31:32 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: cardinal4

I see them in Eastern MN on the Mississippi and St. Croix rivers all the time too.


19 posted on 12/25/2006 5:32:16 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: digger48

...with full choke......


20 posted on 12/25/2006 5:32:25 PM PST by NorCalRepub
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To: Farmer Dean

"In the meantime maybe 50 million people died of insect borne illness that would never have become sick if DDT had been available."

My guess is its more like a 100 million people at a minimum.


21 posted on 12/25/2006 5:32:26 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: digger48
Just this, placed squarely in the center of a cage!
22 posted on 12/25/2006 5:36:04 PM PST by Solamente (Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out...)
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To: driftdiver

bump


23 posted on 12/25/2006 5:40:00 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Not one of those seasonal Festivians. I practice the Airing of Grievances daily. Often on this site.)
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To: digger48
So, what would be the preferred shell? #4 steel shot 10guage?

If you plan on eating it. If you are looking for a trophy I suggest using a bow from a perch. Use a couple of light colored dead cats for bait.

24 posted on 12/25/2006 5:42:02 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: driftdiver

As a child in MS, I never saw pelicans on the beach, It was all blamed on ddt. I guess maybe 10 years ago they started coming back and now all over the place. What I don't understand if ddt wiped out the pelicans eggs, why didn't it wipe out every other species of bird on the gulf coast? Like the seagulls or the skimmers or the least terns , etc.


25 posted on 12/25/2006 5:42:39 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: ElkGroveDan

LOL!!!


26 posted on 12/25/2006 5:46:56 PM PST by digger48
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To: mosquewatch.com
"What I don't understand if ddt wiped out the pelicans eggs, why didn't it wipe out every other species of bird on the gulf coast? Like the seagulls or the skimmers or the least terns , etc."

The decline was more likely due to general pollution and poor wildlife management. As the environment became cleaner and management better the various birds species came back.

DDT had nothing to do with the bird problem but it was a convenient tool for those that believed over population was the greatest threat to the globe.
27 posted on 12/25/2006 5:47:14 PM PST by driftdiver
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To: digger48

There is NOTHING more beautiful than seeing a majestic creature of God blown to pieces by a gun, lol!


In all honesty, this is a hunter's dream.. can't wait to bag one!

Sign me up for the hunt!


28 posted on 12/25/2006 5:49:10 PM PST by TNLawyer (Feminazis the world over can shut up now!)
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To: driftdiver
I agree. I was spoonfed the ddt argument and accepted it, until I realized, that ddt does not just target the pelicans lol. I'm an enviromentalist too an extent, just not a freakin' whacko.

If it comes between my existance or the spotted owl, the owl goes.

29 posted on 12/25/2006 5:52:31 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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"In all honesty, this is a hunter's dream.. can't wait to bag one! "

They are beautiful but they eat carrion. Not something I'm in a hurry to put on my dinner table.


30 posted on 12/25/2006 5:54:18 PM PST by driftdiver
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"Use a couple of light colored dead cats for bait."

I'm Crying over here...

31 posted on 12/25/2006 5:55:35 PM PST by Afronaut (Press 2 for English - Thanks Mr. President !)
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To: digger48

yes, she was. The rebound in bald eagles started before the ban of ddt. Before the ban, they started more aggressive counting methods, which kept going while ddt was banned. Plus hunting was outlawed, which had more to do with their growth than DDT.

There are many things that cause eggshells to thin, and it's not always a bad thing because it makes hatching easier.

junkscience has a bunch on DDT, which some here will likely berate simply because they have an emotional attachment to the subject.


32 posted on 12/25/2006 6:27:00 PM PST by flashbunny (If the founding fathers were alive today, they'd be buying feathers and boiling tar.)
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To: digger48
I live in Florida and the local landfill (previous b4 pc they were garbage dumps)their are many bald eagles nesting and competing with the sea gulls for food. Eagles always win.
33 posted on 12/25/2006 6:56:40 PM PST by bikerman
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To: tranzorZ

I had heard a story (can't remember the details) that one of the early proponents of DDT used to demonstrate the safety by going up on stage and drinking like a glass of water that had a bunch of DDT dissolved in it.


34 posted on 12/25/2006 7:01:50 PM PST by djf (The 16th amendment didn't authorize attacks on Americans)
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To: djf
There is already on the grocery shelves in Anchorage.....
35 posted on 12/25/2006 7:07:29 PM PST by ALASKA (IT'S NOT ROCKET SURGERY......................Don't just do something, STAND THERE!!!)
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To: cardinal4

Crossing the Mississippi this afternoon, we saw many bald eagles in the trees, on the Illinois and Missouri sides. This part of the river is known as a winter eagle area, and at times you can see hundreds of them in the trees along the river..



How'd they get past me? I'm upriver near Burlington Ia. on the Il. side and haven't seen a group of them yet. They usually migrate south as it gets colder. We see large groups around the locks (18 is just a few miles from my place) The most I've seen was 87 at once by my count.


36 posted on 12/25/2006 7:24:37 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: djf
"I had heard a story (can't remember the details) that one of the early proponents of DDT used to demonstrate the safety by going up on stage and drinking like a glass of water that had a bunch of DDT dissolved in it."

And then he laid an egg with a nice thick shell, right?
37 posted on 12/25/2006 7:29:37 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Hunter/Rumsfeld 2008!])
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To: TNLawyer

Maybe now they will stop calling a cease-fire every time one of the bastards lands on the number boards at Perry.


38 posted on 12/25/2006 7:39:01 PM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: digger48
"Was Rachel Carlson FOS about the effects of DDT on eggshells?"

DDT came into prominence because of its use during WWII. The major use of DDT was after WWII. The Bald Eagle decline preceded WWII by many years. What do you think?

39 posted on 12/25/2006 7:47:01 PM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: mosquewatch.com

There's a vast difference between being a conservative environmentally concious steward of natural resources and a Birkenstock clad, granola munching, tree-mating enviro-wacko that believes the three toed yellow-bellied mosquito has more rights than a nameless lump of parasitic embryonic tissue growing in a woman's womb.


40 posted on 12/25/2006 7:50:12 PM PST by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: raygun

I've been killing mr.bambi for 25 years lol . I love too hunt!!!


41 posted on 12/25/2006 7:55:10 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: digger48

What a conundrum for environut libs. One the one hand they want to be able to claim a victory in their endangered species act, but on the other hand they don't want landowners to be free to do things (like cutting down a few trees) to deprive these birds of .001% of their possible habitat.


42 posted on 12/25/2006 9:10:51 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: lesser_satan
I just saw one this afternoon outside of Esko, MN. Pretty neat sight!
43 posted on 12/25/2006 9:19:12 PM PST by dbehsman (Libertarians make poor humanitarians)
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That's near Duluth, right?


44 posted on 12/25/2006 9:33:23 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: CrazyIvan

We're south of Galesburg, IL and one day my daughter, who was sitting on the couch, looked out the window and said, "Mom, there's a bald eagle in the tree." I just laughed at her and went over and looked...sure enough there was an eagle right outside out window halfway up a large walnut tree. I had never seen any this far from the Mississippi before.


45 posted on 12/25/2006 9:34:11 PM PST by Pure Country
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To: digger48

Now radical liberals will be going for hunting licenses, if they thought burning the flag was cool killing Bald Eagles will be like getting to meet Che' Guevara.


46 posted on 12/25/2006 9:35:29 PM PST by word_warrior_bob
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To: lesser_satan
Oh yeah, you betcha! ; )

It's about 20 miles south west of Duluth.
47 posted on 12/25/2006 9:38:05 PM PST by dbehsman (Libertarians make poor humanitarians)
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To: digger48

I promise I'll only eat 1 (well maybe 2)


48 posted on 12/25/2006 9:50:44 PM PST by isom35
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To: dbehsman

I see them all the time in the bluff country between Red Wing and Winona. I boat in that stretch almost every weekend in the summer, and I can't recall a weekend when I didn't see a bunch of them. There's a nest across the river from an island I stay at a lot. I'll have to see if I have any pics I can post. You can also see them along highway 61 between Lake City and Winona. There are spots where you can pull over and take pictures.


49 posted on 12/25/2006 10:00:59 PM PST by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: TNLawyer
Sport hunting is a sick joke.

Hunting and eating? Good stuff.

50 posted on 12/25/2006 11:18:42 PM PST by zarf
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