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Bipartisan Effort to Draft Immigration Bill
New York Times ^ | December 26, 2006 | RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 12/26/2006 1:29:56 PM PST by stevie_d_64

WASHINGTON, Dec. 25 — Counting on the support of the new Democratic majority in Congress, Democratic lawmakers and their Republican allies are working on measures that could place millions of illegal immigrants on a more direct path to citizenship than would a bill that the Senate passed in the spring.

The lawmakers are considering abandoning a requirement in the Senate bill that would compel several million illegal immigrants to leave the United States before becoming eligible to apply for citizenship.

The lawmakers are also considering denying financing for 700 miles of fencing along the border with Mexico, a law championed by Republicans that passed with significant Democratic support.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasionusa

1 posted on 12/26/2006 1:30:02 PM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: stevie_d_64

Anyone who votes for this crap (Dem or Repub) does not care about American citizens.

Pretty simple.


2 posted on 12/26/2006 1:31:37 PM PST by sheana
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To: stevie_d_64

Why am I not surprised???

And to think this news will have a ripple effect on the amount of people coming across, just to be here when amnesty is declared...


3 posted on 12/26/2006 1:31:51 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: stevie_d_64

Amnesty Deja Vu all over again...........


4 posted on 12/26/2006 1:35:06 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: stevie_d_64

Ugh. Ugh. Ugh. And to think they're actually talking about cutting funding for the fence. They deserve punishment!


5 posted on 12/26/2006 1:40:34 PM PST by Princip. Conservative
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To: stevie_d_64
They have definitely missed the ball on what the voters think of this.

Another bunch of incumbents will get booted in 2008 if they go through with this.

6 posted on 12/26/2006 1:48:20 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: stevie_d_64
Bipartisan Effort to Draft Immigration Bill

Might as well grab my ankles now.

7 posted on 12/26/2006 1:49:15 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: stevie_d_64

Unless the Senate falls in line, it sounds like they are proposing another bill that will remain in committee forever.


8 posted on 12/26/2006 1:51:23 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: stevie_d_64; Admin Moderator

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1758409/posts


9 posted on 12/26/2006 1:51:45 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: capt. norm

My contempt for politicians (R or D) grows every day. Of course this day would happen.


10 posted on 12/26/2006 1:53:40 PM PST by kcar
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To: sheana

no lib/dem or republican is interested in anything but power/re-election and how much they can personally get form the american tax payer!!!!

care about american citizens.......get real!!!!


11 posted on 12/26/2006 1:59:38 PM PST by hnj_00
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To: kcar
My contempt for politicians (R or D) grows every day. Of course this day would happen.

I think all they care about is "buying" that next vote....and to heck with whatever happens to this country.

John Kerry personifies it perfectly with dozens more that are 98% that bad.

Too bad we couldn't have stuck to the original version of Congress where regular citizens were elected to periodically go to D.C. and vote the wishes of their community, and then return to their regular work be it farmer, blacksmith, merchant etc.

Our founding fathers had the right idea but I don't think they ever foresaw that some less than honorable people would try to make a career out of it.

I think they saw Congress as a sort of "board of directors" who would hold periodic meetings and then go back home and let the other two branches of "full-timers" run the country, following the guidance they provided at their meeting.

12 posted on 12/26/2006 2:03:42 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: hnj_00

You get no argument from me.

The point was.....they are supposed to care about America and its citizens. That used to be the reason for doing "public service".

Our whole political system is perverted and twisted now.

Unfortunately (for them) I still work under the system that our founders intended. If many others did also, the political system might start changing back to what it was intended to be.


13 posted on 12/26/2006 2:37:35 PM PST by sheana
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To: stevie_d_64

The Bush administration's tremendous failures on this issue will tarnish his legacy with future generations. Many parts of our nation are already crappy psuedo third world hispanic holes thanks to illegal immigration and in two hundred years I fully expect us to be a hispanic nation. Bush had a chance to preserve American culture and society and he failed badly.


14 posted on 12/26/2006 2:51:43 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: capt. norm

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Too bad we couldn't have stuck to the original version of Congress where regular citizens were elected to periodically go to D.C. and vote the wishes of their community, and then return to their regular work be it farmer, blacksmith, merchant etc."

While this sounds nice, I don't know if it would work today. Running a modern state is staggeringly complex and I don't think it could be done part time like that. Of course it isn't like things are working well with congress at the moment anyway.


15 posted on 12/26/2006 2:53:13 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: stevie_d_64
Rememaber those big demonstrations by illegal Mexicans who were telling the rest of us to "go back to Europe" and who wanted to create "Aztlan?" Why should we want a "path to citizenship" for people who would become a built-in Fifth Column?
16 posted on 12/26/2006 2:59:10 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: stevie_d_64
Counting on the support of the new Democratic majority in Congress, Democratic lawmakers and their Republican allies are working on measures that could place millions of illegal immigrants on a more direct path to citizenship than would a bill that the Senate passed in the spring.

Yup. As we predicted about the RINO-IN-CHIEF. Illegal Alien Amnesty is his #1 Priority...and his quest for a Legacy.

Will the remaining stalwart conservatives still have the courage to do as they have in the past...and demand the President enforce the laws?

October 28, 2003

 

The President
The White House
Washington, DC  20500


Dear Mr. President:

We write to urge you to seize the opportunity during your upcoming discussions with Mexican President Vicente Fox to make clear this nation’s determination to establish and enforce an immigration policy that celebrates our immigrant heritage, secures our borders, draws a bright line between legal and illegal aliens, and rejects any and all forms of amnesty.

We trust and urge that any agreement reached during these discussions and any implementing proposals you may subsequently bring to Congress will honor what we consider to be bedrock principles of a sane, effective, productive immigration policy:

·        Our national security against terrorism must be built on secure borders, and we intend to invest whatever manpower and technological resources are required to close our borders to terrorists, drug smugglers, and illegal aliens;

·        Our national allegiance is to one indivisible nation, and we will not allow or condone the balkanization of the United States of America but instead embrace efforts to help documented newcomers become part of the American family;

·        Our core belief that “reverence for the laws” must be, as Lincoln said, the “political religion of the nation,” which means we can no longer blur the line between legal and illegal immigration and we must vigorously enforce all our immigration laws;

·        Our nation’s economic security and that of our workers, particularly low-income and underemployed Americans, must not be undercut by exploited, unskilled illegal alien workers;

·        Our national treasure is of, by, and for Americans – native or naturalized, but in all cases legal citizens – and should not be further depleted to aid, abet, or encourage persons who are here illegally; and

·        Our previous experiments with direct or indirect amnesty have failed, resulting in more, not less, illegal immigration because amnesty rewards lawbreakers and discriminates against those who seek legal entry into this country; therefore, every form and vestige of amnesty must be rooted out of federal laws, regulations and policies.

We also believe you must make clear to President Fox that we expect Mexico to be an integral part of this effort.  For far too long Mexico has acted more as an accomplice in illegal immigration than a partner in preventing it.  And while we sympathize with Mexico’s problems – its statist economy, hugely inefficient public sector, laws that limit foreign investment, and inability to create enough jobs for its people, etc. – it nonetheless has a responsibility to help control this runaway problem that is largely of its own making.

If the Mexican government can’t – or won’t – make necessary and long-overdue changes to provide economic opportunity for its own people, then it should at least help pay for the burden on the American taxpayer that it has created and, indeed, encouraged.

By reaffirming our fidelity to these self-evident truths, we can seize this moment of opportunity to resolve one of the primary and growing threats to our nation’s future.  We urge you to act now to rescue an immigration policy that is failing the American people, imposing enormous costs on our economy, and leaving us more vulnerable to terrorism.

Sincerely,

Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ)
Rep. John Boozman (R-AK)
Rep. Terry Everett (R-AL)
Rep. Trent Franks (R-AZ)
Rep. Elton Gallegly (R-CA)
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)
Rep. Gary Miller (R-CA)
Rep. John Doolittle (R-CA)
Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA)
Rep. Wally Herger (R-CA)
Rep. Ed Royce (R-CA)
Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO)
Rep. Joel Hefley (R-CO)
Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Rep. Jeff Miller (R-FL)
Rep. Ric Keller (R-FL)
Rep. John Mica (R-FL)
Rep. Mark Foley (R-FL)
Rep. Phill Gingrey (R-GA)
Rep. Nathan Deal (R-GA)
Rep. Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Rep. Michael "Mac" Collins (R-GA)
Rep. Charlie Norwood (R-GA)
Rep. Steve King (R-IA)
Rep. C.L. "Butch" Otter (R-ID)
Rep. Phil Crane (R-IL)
Rep. Donald Manzullo (R-IL)
Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN)
Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS)
Rep. Harold Rogers (R-KY)
Rep. Roscoe Bartlett (R-MD)
Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
Rep. Gil Gutknecht (R-MN)
Rep. Jim Ramstad (R-MN)

Rep. Sam Graves (R-MO)
Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO)
Rep. Roger Wicker (R-MS)
Rep. Cass Ballanger (R-NC)
Rep. Walter Jones (R-NC)
Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC)
Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC)
Rep. Doug Bereuter (R-NE)
Rep. Jeb Bradley (R-NH)
Rep. Sue Kelly (R-NY)
Rep. John Sullivan (R-OK)
Rep. Frank Lucas (R-OK)
Rep. Joseph Pitts (R-PA)
Rep. Curt Weldon (R-PA)
Rep. Pat Toomey (R-PA)
Rep. Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)
Rep. Zach Wamp (R-TN)
Rep. William Jenkins (R-TN)
Rep. John Duncan (R-TN)
Rep. Randy Negeubauer (R-TX)
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX)
Rep. John Culberson (R-TX)
Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX)
Rep. John Carter (R-TX)
Rep. Virgil Goode (R-VA)
Rep. Jo Ann Davis (R-VA)
Rep. Randy Forbes (R-VA)
Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)

 

17 posted on 12/26/2006 3:18:55 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: stevie_d_64

Did our lawmakers get the message in Nov about amnesty?
Well the only silver lining to this (if there is one) is that in 2008 the dims will be voted out for making the biggest mistake they could make ( thank goodness) the third rail issue. ILLEGALS!

Nothing like allowing tax cheaters and freeloaders and drug smugglers and identity theives to become US citizens.


18 posted on 12/26/2006 3:32:34 PM PST by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: capt. norm

The higher the "amnesty for illegals" immigration population gets to become legalized throughout the U.S., the more the increases of registered Democrats and registered independents who will end up voting for Democrats and not vote for Republicans at every political level. There's no way that conservatives will truly be able to successfully match the pace of new voters who will be fully supporting the Democratic Party and supporting the political left for always! Good-bye U.S.A.! It was nice to know ya!


19 posted on 12/26/2006 3:38:05 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore
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To: sheana

A disastor in the making. Mark my words: I will NEVER vote for anyone who votes for such a bill.


20 posted on 12/26/2006 3:42:06 PM PST by Bulldawg Fan
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To: Paul Ross

Think about this aspect...

The other important agenda item in that meeting between Fox and Bush was the Trans-Texas Corridor project...

If they can get the amnesty deal through by this summer, and keep the lid on all of the BS about this "NAFTA Highway" so to speak...

It will pretty much be the end game...I hope its not, but again, with this news getting out, and the plan for this landgrabbing Homeland Security killing nightmare...

Time to clean house and put an end to these endeavors...

We won't get a vote on either...


21 posted on 12/26/2006 6:55:52 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: stevie_d_64

unfortunately, many conservatives who "sent a message" in November - did so by removing the one body who could have stopped this, the Republican House.

they will now reap what they have sown.


22 posted on 12/26/2006 6:59:33 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview
There's one Republican "body" who could veto the bill...but he won't.

sw

23 posted on 12/26/2006 7:27:11 PM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: stevie_d_64

Really?

What a bunch of jack-asses.


24 posted on 12/26/2006 7:29:20 PM PST by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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To: spectre

but we knew that going in, that the only check to a wide open immigration bill - was the House.

and now we'll get to see what all those blue dogs Dems, elected in republican districts, being "tough on immigration" as one of their positions, do here. If all of them were to buck their party, and join with the House R minority, there still might be votes to stop this. But I doubt they will hold.


25 posted on 12/26/2006 7:33:27 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

Nick Lampson being one of them...

Going to be interesting to watch this guy operate...He knows that unless our Republican leadership abandons us again, that his days in that seat are numbered...

We got a fair "bull pen" of conservatives lining up to do a better job than the leadership set us up for this next time...

More than likely some people will have a very short memory...


26 posted on 12/26/2006 7:44:36 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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