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Rights watchdog calls on Baghdad not to execute Saddam
AFP ^ | 12-26-06 | RWB Patriot

Posted on 12/26/2006 5:17:17 PM PST by RWB Patriot

NEW YORK (AFP) - Human Rights Watch urged the Iraqi government not to execute Saddam Hussein, describing the trial that convicted the former president for crimes against humanity as "deeply flawed."

"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong after such unfair proceedings," said Richard Dicker, director of Human Rights Watch's international justice programme.

"That a judicial decision was first announced by Iraq's national security adviser underlines the political interference that marred Saddam Hussein's trial," he added.

Saddam was sentenced to death in November after a trial lasting more than a year for ordering the deaths of 148 Shiite civilians from the town of Dujail, north of Baghdad, after an assassination attempt in 1982.

A panel of Iraqi judges rejected his appeal and upheld the sentence earlier Tuesday, setting the stage for the ousted dictator to be hanged within 30 days.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: execution; humanrightswatch; saddam
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"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong after such unfair proceedings,"

Funny, Terrorist Rights Watch never said anything when Saddam sentenced innocent people to death and threw them into plastic shredders.

1 posted on 12/26/2006 5:17:19 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: RWB Patriot

*Slaps forehead and drags hand down face*

I goofed on the author slot again, so sorry. I think it's supposed to be New York AFP.


2 posted on 12/26/2006 5:18:36 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case...

Could've stopped reading right there and known I wasn't going to agree with these wack-jobs.

3 posted on 12/26/2006 5:25:58 PM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: RWB Patriot
Why is it, these "Human Rights" folks are never to be found making a stand against the mass murdering Islamists as they go about with the "ethnic cleansing" and "Allah's work".

Their credibility and value is below zero..

Semper Fi
4 posted on 12/26/2006 5:26:38 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Human rights are - by definition - reserved for humans. Since saddam is not a human but a beast, he necessarily does not, and cannot, have these rights and therefore is not covered by them. Thus the "human rights watch" has no standing to squeal on the topic. PETA might, though.


5 posted on 12/26/2006 5:30:29 PM PST by GSlob
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To: RWB Patriot

I'm sure that the Iraqi court might be willing to make a deal if Human Rights Watch has someone in mind they would like to substitute for Saddam. But, unless Maliki goes wobbly in the knees, Hussein is gonna swing in 30 days.


6 posted on 12/26/2006 5:31:34 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: RWB Patriot

Doesn't this just figure? Is anyone surprised?


7 posted on 12/26/2006 5:31:44 PM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: RWB Patriot
Human Rights Watch. Aren't these the gay guys?
8 posted on 12/26/2006 5:33:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: RWB Patriot

How many people do you have to kill to merit a death sentence according to the "Human Rights Watch"?

I'm sure they would support a death sentence for George W. Bush if he had an overdue parking ticket.


9 posted on 12/26/2006 5:33:49 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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How many people do you have to kill to merit a death sentence according to the "Human Rights Watch"?

Apparently not all victims are created equal.

10 posted on 12/26/2006 5:35:13 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RWB Patriot

Liberalism IS a mental disorder.


11 posted on 12/26/2006 5:37:02 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: DustyMoment
But, unless Maliki goes wobbly in the knees, Hussein is gonna swing in 30 days.

Malaki gets no say. It's up to Talibani.

12 posted on 12/26/2006 5:37:07 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

Why Talibani and what's he probably gonna do?


13 posted on 12/26/2006 5:39:00 PM PST by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
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To: RWB Patriot
"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong after such unfair proceedings," said Richard Dicker, director of Human Rights Watch's international justice programme.

What was unfair about it. The trial lasted more than a year, Saddam had a dozen lawyers, witnesses testified, what was unfair?

14 posted on 12/26/2006 5:40:07 PM PST by McGavin999 (Don't bring what you ran away from to my home state-Freeper WatchingInAmazement)
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To: garyhope

You have to be a pro-American, anti-abortion, red-blooded Conservative Republican in order for Human Rights Watch to support your execution. Typical liberal thinking.


15 posted on 12/26/2006 5:42:32 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: RWB Patriot
Headline = Tell that to the hundreds of Iraqis with stiletto knife heeled shoes held high..just waiting for Saddam to come out into the open.
16 posted on 12/26/2006 5:44:49 PM PST by NordP (America Votes: So sad to find out the majority is self-centered, short-sighted, and impatient.)
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To: at bay

Because this issue is up to the President of Iraq (who usually has a largely representative role). He won't oppose the death sentence, since he already has indicated that, despite his opposiiton to the death penalty, Saddam deserves to be executed a thousand times.


17 posted on 12/26/2006 5:46:41 PM PST by SolidWood
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To: at bay

The death warrant has to be signed by the President, and that's Talibani. Maliki is only Prime Minister.

Talabani personally opposes the death penalty in general, but he's allowed the vice-presidents to sign on his behalf for other recent executions.

I imagine great pressure will be put on him by the Ramsey Clark types in a last-ditch effort, but I'd guess he'll personally sign this one. He's a Kurd.


18 posted on 12/26/2006 5:48:29 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: RWB Patriot
Human Rights Watch urged the Iraqi government not to execute Saddam Hussein,

I agree. They should gently skin him alive and throw him in the ocean...

19 posted on 12/26/2006 5:48:32 PM PST by Snardius (How old would you be if you didn't know how old you are?)
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To: Dog Gone

Damn, I was hoping for tomorrow. Looks like it'll be a little while longer if someone he has to sign off on it. And there's always a slim chance he'll balk out of fear of reprisals.

It'll be a great day when he is hanged. I wish they would televise it. Maybe they will since it's Iraq. I hope they have a mic that will catch that snap crackle pop and the lightening of the load. May he rot in hell.


20 posted on 12/26/2006 5:53:35 PM PST by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
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To: RWB Patriot
"Human Rights Watch urged the Iraqi government not to execute Saddam Hussein,----Imposing the death penalty, (is)indefensible in any case,---"

Sure, let Saddam live so he might be able to kill more people, either personally or through those thugs who still believe he is their leader. If these morons at "Human Rights Watch" really wanted to foster human rights, they'd be so appalled at what Saddam did to his own people, and the Kuwaitis, they would want him executed immediately to protect human beings from him.

21 posted on 12/26/2006 5:57:22 PM PST by TheCrusader
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To: RWB Patriot
How about this for the Rights Watchdog ?


22 posted on 12/26/2006 5:59:12 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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To: RWB Patriot
Where were these people when Saddam was filling mass graves with hundreds of thousands of Iraqis?

The hypocricy of these so called human "rights" groups astounds me.

23 posted on 12/26/2006 5:59:17 PM PST by Jorge
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To: RWB Patriot
Human Rights Watch is rabidly anti-death penalty in every case, no matter how monstrous the crimes of the convicted offender.

They also urged President Bush to grant clemency for Timothy McVeigh in June, 2001 on grounds the FBI withheld documents from his defense counsel which led to an unfair prosecution they claimed. They are consistent, we have to give them that.

More typically, human rights organizations along with environmentalist groups, especially any affiliated with the U.N., are just cover groups for anti-American and anti-capitalist activists.

24 posted on 12/26/2006 6:00:34 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: garyhope
How many people do you have to kill to merit a death sentence according to the "Human Rights Watch"? I'm sure they would support a death sentence for George W. Bush if he had an overdue parking ticket.

Likewise IIRC, there was absolutely zero protest of the execution of Timothy McVeigh, from anybody right or left or ACLU or Amnesty International or etc etc ... everyone pretty much agreed that McVeigh had to go for his crime, and it was done quickly and without much press.

25 posted on 12/26/2006 6:01:46 PM PST by Mr_Moonlight
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To: at bay

Talabani can't block this execution without jeopardizing his own career, life, and throwing the country REALLY into a civil war.

I imagine the US is also telling him our expectations and the need to eliminate Hussein forever.

While I'd like to see a public execution, that's probably highly unlikely simply because of security concerns. It might not even be filmed. I imagine there will be photos of him after death to dispel any conspiracy theories.


26 posted on 12/26/2006 6:03:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: RWB Patriot
This will no doubt sound totally non-PC, but I cat help but wonder how Mr. Dicker will feel about someone who has his wife anally, vaginally, and orally raped, and then hung by the heels and disemboweled while he watches. (Which is not far from what Saddam had done to some women.)
Do you suppose he might feel that imposing the death penalty might be defensible in that case?
Or does his outrage at the "death penalty" only apply when someone else's family is slaughtered by a madman?

(Note: The death penalty is the only 100% guaranteed way to insure there is no repeat offense and that society is protected.)
27 posted on 12/26/2006 6:06:56 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights)
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"Since saddam is not a human but a beast.."

This is the mistake that we constantly make. Saddam is not a beast but very much an evil human being. Beasts follow their instincts and cannot be held responsible for their actions - Saddam knowingly acted the way he did and must therefore be held responsible. My dog is a beast and he feels offended for comparing him with Saddam.


28 posted on 12/26/2006 6:06:57 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: Dog Gone
I imagine great pressure will be put on him by the Ramsey Clark types in a last-ditch effort,,,

Will Jimmy Carter be there to protest?

29 posted on 12/26/2006 6:10:08 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Dog Gone
I imagine great pressure will be put on him by the Ramsey Clark types in a last-ditch effort,,,

Will Jimmy Carter be there to protest?

30 posted on 12/26/2006 6:10:10 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: 353FMG

Wrong. He is a beast in human shape - and thus whatever well-deserved abuse is meted out to him, at most it would be cruelty to animals.


31 posted on 12/26/2006 6:10:30 PM PST by GSlob
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To: Mr_Moonlight

"Likewise IIRC, there was absolutely zero protest of the execution of Timothy McVeigh, from anybody right or left or ACLU or Amnesty International or etc etc ... "

Exactly true. Good point. Typical "liberal" hyprocrisy.


32 posted on 12/26/2006 6:12:03 PM PST by garyhope (It's World War IV, right here, right now courtesy of Islam.)
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To: RWB Patriot

Human Rights Watch, liberal scum not worth the time of day !!!


33 posted on 12/26/2006 6:16:39 PM PST by Obie Wan
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To: Mr_Moonlight; garyhope
See Post #24 regarding Timothy McVeigh and Human Rights Watch.
34 posted on 12/26/2006 6:17:40 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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I wonder where Human Rights Watch was, when Saddam took power, he orchestrated a series of murders and forced his subordinates to execute his political opponents to implicate them in his crimes. As a matter of fact, he circulated a public videotape of the Ba'ath Party tribunal in which those named where led away to their fate, I might add, all without due process of law. Saddam received that and deserves to hang for his crimes. It was not for nothing the ruthless Iraqi dictator received the infamous sobriquet, "Butcher Of Baghdad." If there are any candidates for the ultimate penalty, Saddam qualifies on all counts. I look forward to his execution.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

35 posted on 12/26/2006 6:18:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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""Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong..."

If it's indefensible in any case, it can't be especially wrong any more than a gal can get too pregnant.

The group thinks DP is wrong everytime. They could have stopped there. All else is wasting oxygen.


36 posted on 12/26/2006 6:22:26 PM PST by gcruse (http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
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To: RWB Patriot

The day saddam is room temperature, will be a good day, as well as the jackass in cuba.


37 posted on 12/26/2006 6:25:01 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case..."

"Could've stopped reading right there and known I wasn't going to agree with these wack-jobs."

I started laughing at that point. They only stand up for their beloved world leaders. They do not care about anyone else in the world.


38 posted on 12/26/2006 6:26:04 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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"What was unfair about it. The trial lasted more than a year, Saddam had a dozen lawyers, witnesses testified, what was unfair?"

Well that is an easy question. Saddam was convicted. That is what was unfair. You need to completely ignore all facts and just support your dictators no matter what in order to be accepted into Human Rights Watch.

Now do you understand why you and I are not members?


39 posted on 12/26/2006 6:31:39 PM PST by mjaneangels@aolcom
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To: Dog Gone
Malaki gets no say. It's up to Talibani.

I'm not disagreeing, just explaining the basis for my statement. I'm given to understand that Maliki and both(?) VPs have the final say. That's just what I've heard on the radio - I don't know if it's true or not. If I'm wrong or heard incorrectly, please feel free to educate me.

Dusty
40 posted on 12/26/2006 6:32:03 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: DustyMoment

It's up to the President and the two vice-presidents, not the prime minister.

I don't know what else to tell you. What you heard on the radio is wrong.

Maliki would support it in any event.

Really, the only wild card in the next 30 days would be Talibani and he's an unlikely Saddam ally. My guess is Saddam will be strung up within three weeks.

Legally, it could be minutes after the death warrants are signed. It wouldn't surprise me if it's within a week. Getting it over with before there's time for national excitement to build (and possibly boil over) would be prudent.


41 posted on 12/26/2006 6:42:52 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: RWB Patriot

Crazy loons. They should just say "the death penalty is wrong, that this guy deserves is so much is a great opportunity to showcase our humanity". I would disagree with them, but the point is they would have much more credibilty and respect doing that than trying to claim he might not really be guilty.


42 posted on 12/26/2006 6:48:22 PM PST by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: RWB Patriot
"... Human Rights Watch urged the Iraqi government not to execute Saddam Hussein, describing the trial that convicted the former president for crimes against humanity as "deeply flawed."

I'm sorry, all petitions to spare the life of Saddam must be presented in person at the same location in downtown Baghdad where brave young Iraqi men risk death by queueing up to be recruited as policemen.

43 posted on 12/26/2006 6:54:14 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: RWB Patriot
"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong after such unfair proceedings," said Richard Dicker, director of Human Rights Watch's international justice programme.

Dick Dicker was doomed to looney leftism by the moniker his parents hung on him.

44 posted on 12/26/2006 7:20:21 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Heads up, people! The Nazis are back. They're more numerous and gearing up with atomic weapons.)
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To: RWB Patriot
To all those who are opposed to the death penalty for Saddam and especially those who were trying to humanize this guy for the past couple of years--I recommend this video. I have a copy, have watched the whole thing(barely been able to) but couldn't anyone else to watch past the second or third chapter. It is EXTREMELY graphic. Not for the weak of heart.

BURIED IN THE SAND

45 posted on 12/26/2006 7:47:12 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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46 posted on 12/26/2006 7:48:24 PM PST by HarmlessLovableFuzzball
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"Wrong. He is a beast in human shape..."

Wrong! He is a MONSTER in human shape...!

47 posted on 12/26/2006 7:52:09 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: RWB Patriot
"Imposing the death penalty, indefensible in any case, is especially wrong after such unfair proceedings," said Richard Dicker, director of Human Rights Watch's international justice programme.

The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

48 posted on 12/26/2006 8:49:42 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RWB Patriot

I can think of a dozen other ways to do away with him that would be more just, more in line with his type of thinking on how to do away with people. The problem is, you only get to choose one.


49 posted on 12/26/2006 8:54:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: RWB Patriot

I'd love to get a large group of people to follow this POS carrying buckets of...Rocks. On each rock would be the name of one of Saddam's victims. They would follow Richard Dick-head throwing the rocks at him. "Where were you when Achmed was fed feet first into a chipper shredder for trying to leave the country?" "Why were you less vocal when little 13 year old Jasmine was gang raped because her father opposed the Bath-Party?"

Any better ideas?


50 posted on 12/26/2006 8:57:32 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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