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FEC fines Sierra Club
The Hill ^ | December 27, 2006 | Jim Snyder

Posted on 12/27/2006 10:33:26 AM PST by girlangler

November 16, 2006

FEC fines Sierra Club By Jim Snyder

A Federal Election Commission settlement with the Sierra Club will likely put new limits on how explicit outside groups may be when trying to influence voters.

The environmental group agreed to pay a $28,000 fine to settle charges that it had paid for a brochure that expressly advocated the election or defeat of candidates in the 2004 presidential and Senate races from its corporate treasury.

Because the Sierra Club brochure was found to contain express advocacy, it was determined to be an independent expenditure.

Campaign finance laws prohibit money from a corporate treasury to pay for independent expenditures.

FEC Chairman Michael Toner described the settlement as “one of the most important express advocacy cases the commission has resolved in recent years.”

The settlement provides a bit more clarity to a Supreme Court decision, McConnell v. FEC, that found that the definition of what constitutes express advocacy goes beyond so-called “magic words,” such as “vote for” or “vote against.” That had been the previous standard used.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; fec; fine; lawbreakers; politics; sierra; sierraclub

1 posted on 12/27/2006 10:33:27 AM PST by girlangler
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To: proud_yank; billhilly; Diana in Wisconsin; SJackson; george76

Ping


2 posted on 12/27/2006 10:34:15 AM PST by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

$28,000! That's chump change to these bozos. It should have been 28 million!


3 posted on 12/27/2006 10:35:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: girlangler

SCS


4 posted on 12/27/2006 10:37:01 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I was just about to post the same thing....the SC can find 28 grand in the waiting room couch.

28 million might have gotten their attention.

5 posted on 12/27/2006 10:39:11 AM PST by B.O. Plenty (liberalism, abortions and islam are terminal)
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To: girlangler
I may not agree with their message, but I will fight to my dying day their right to say it.

CFR is a direct violation of the framer's intent in the First Amendment. If we're not allowed to question our government, openly advocate or criticize candidates based on their positions, then the Second Amendment comes into play.

6 posted on 12/27/2006 10:41:02 AM PST by Small-L ("Government is not the answer to our problems -- government is the problem." --RWR)
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To: girlangler

For the greatest campaign finance fraud in history and conciliation agreement acknowledging 721K not declared, Hillary's campaign was fined 35K. Then, she filed her fourth false FEC report in January 2006.


7 posted on 12/27/2006 10:42:40 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Why?

Because you don't agree with them?

Be careful of what you wish on others because it's just a matter of time before the precedent will be used on YOU?

It would be better for all of us if you'd reserve your outrage for the fact that a government agency was able to fine someone for free speech. That's the outrage.

Either you defend the Constitution or we soon won't have one!


8 posted on 12/27/2006 10:44:09 AM PST by HannagansBride
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To: girlangler

Every time the feckless FEC issues its findings and levies a fine, it is long, long after the fact and too late and the fine too laughingly small to have any effect so far as serving the cause of fairness and justice is concerned.


9 posted on 12/27/2006 10:44:48 AM PST by Elsiejay (\)
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To: girlangler

Speaking of Liberal baloney, Boston news this am...CBS (channel 4), mentioned that Governor Elect Lavall Patrick's 'idea' committee had come up with more than one hundred new ways to spend taxes...Support for the Arts right at the top of the list. He's already rescinded the abolishment of tolls on the Turnpike. God forbid a dem turn his back on that goldmine! A few other delirious ideas were discussed, and it seemed clear that Boston is to be the East Coast San Francisco. The cops are not happy. We are in big trouble.


10 posted on 12/27/2006 10:46:28 AM PST by hershey
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To: HannagansBride

Do you think the FEC will go this easy on the conservative groups they are going after for the same thing? We'll see but I don't think so.


11 posted on 12/27/2006 10:47:39 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: girlangler

This better make it into the 2008 commercials along with Nancy Pelosi's FEC fines and all the other Dem law breaking.


12 posted on 12/27/2006 10:47:41 AM PST by sappy
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"$28,000! That's chump change to these bozos. It should have been 28 million!"

Fine Robert Redford to 28 million. Personally, I would rather see Donald Rumsfeld kick his wrinkled Commie ass.
13 posted on 12/27/2006 10:52:40 AM PST by wmileo (Reagan Democrat for life)
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To: girlangler

I have mixed emotions about this since, yes in view of the law the Sierra Club Deserved to be fined, yet the law the inspired the Fine is an infringement on the freedom of speech! Something we were supposed to be garented.


14 posted on 12/27/2006 10:57:56 AM PST by mtnjimmi (fiction, reality there's a difference? tell that to our liberal friends!)
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To: mtnjimmi
There ya go! Exactly. And people who violate these bogus laws should all be treated the same until we can get them repealed.

League of Conservation Voters 527 and 527II -- $180,000

MoveOn.org Voter Fund -- $ 150,000

Swiftboat Veterans and POWs for Truth -- $ 299,500

15 posted on 12/27/2006 11:02:18 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer
"$28,000! That's chump change to these bozos. It should have been 28 million!"

I respectfully disagree. No government agency has any business or right to tell people what they can say in the context of political speech. I hope this goes to the courts. Since this is a liberal advocacy group maybe the foolish liberal judges will be fooled into ruling in their favor. Of course the liberal judges will probably rule that environmental groups are exempt from CFR, and CFR will continue to apply to everyone else.

16 posted on 12/27/2006 11:03:27 AM PST by KoRn
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To: KoRn
Okay! Okay! My post wasn't intended to attack the freedom of speech and the First Amendment! It was the way different people are "fined" different amounts according to their political ideology. Geeez. See my above post. Look at how much the fined they Swifties for doing essentially the same thing. Advising people to select one party or candidate over another.

P.S. The Sierra Club is still a bunch of leftist morons. A bunch of rich leftist elitists who believe that the wilderness belongs to them and their "snowy owls" and the rest of us should keep out.

17 posted on 12/27/2006 11:12:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: girlangler

A good start.


18 posted on 12/27/2006 11:50:10 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: girlangler

Nice to see it, but I agree that it's meaningless. :(


19 posted on 12/27/2006 1:15:14 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

actually its was taken over by a bunch of rich liberal lawyers .they took over the club in order to sue, sue , sue
everyone and to obtain great wealth, power, and peddle there leftist politics.
the original founder now openly lectures against them and takes them to court on occasion.


20 posted on 12/27/2006 1:22:10 PM PST by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: Small-L
I feel the same way. President Bush could easily have vetoed CFR, but obviously favored it.

This does not mean I agree with everything Sierra Club advocated. Their hypocrisy of many members was shown when they refused to take a stand on immigration - that indicated that many (not all) of the members have an agenda other than supporting the environment.

Trying to protect the many scenic and historic features is neither liberal nor conservative - it reflects a love of this country.

21 posted on 12/27/2006 1:25:49 PM PST by Dante3
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To: BurtSB

That is good to know. Many fine, well-intentioned institutions in this country have gone to he!! after being infiltrated by anti-American liberals.


22 posted on 12/27/2006 1:27:41 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: girlangler
How about we yank their tax exempt status and let them advocate all they want.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

23 posted on 12/27/2006 1:31:01 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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The Sierra Club is beginning to rival the ACLU as the organization that I love to hate. They are just as destructive in their own way. Boy do I hate both of these groups.


24 posted on 07/13/2008 12:58:50 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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