Posted on 12/29/2006 4:00:46 PM PST by Lazamataz
In the leadup to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, there were a large number of reports of an infamous plastic shredder into which Saddam and Qusay Hussein fed opponents of their Baathist rule.
The first mention of the woodchipper came at a March 12 2003 meeting, when James Mahon addressed the House of Commons after returning from research in northern Iraq.
Ann Clwyd wrote in The Times six days later, an article entitled "See men shredded, then say you don't back war," saying that an unnamed Iraqi had said the Husseins (sic) used a woodchipper to gruesomely kill male opponents, and used their shredded bodies as fish food. Later she would add that it was believed to be housed in Abu Ghraib prison. Two days later Australian Prime Minister John Howard made reference to the "human-shredding machine".
Melanie Phillips wrote in The Daily Mail, saying that the machine resulted in "bodies...chewed up from foot to head". In William Shawcross's 2003 book , he claimed that Saddam Hussein "fed people into huge shredders, feet first to prolong the agony".
In 2003, Ken Joseph claimed to have been one of the anti-war Human Shields that had traveled to Iraq, but said that he returned disgusted by tales of slow torture like the plastic shredder, and became an advocate of the war instead. However, it was quickly asserted by the groups that organised the shield action that they had never heard of him, and that it was possible he had never even been to the country.
The Sun's political editor Trevor Kavanagh wrote in February 2004 that "Public opinion swung behind Tony Blair as voters learned how Saddam fed dissidents feet first into industrial shredders"
In 2004, in The Guardian, Brendan O'Neill openly questioned the existence of the woodchipper, asking for Clwyd and Mahon to provide evidence or the names of the Iraqis who gave them the story. He spoke with the doctor who dealt with executed prisoners at Abu Grahib during Saddam Hussein's rule, who said that all executions were performed by hanging, and denied claims that there was a shredder of any type. Clwyd responded to O'Neills allegations in a letter published in the Guardian stating that Brendan O'Neill was told by my office, but chose not to include in his article, the following information. In his statement, the witness who said that people were killed by the shredder was very specific: he named individuals who he said were killed in the shredder and the individuals who he said supervised the execution by shredder; he stated where the shredder was located and the month and year when the executions took place. The witness was closely questioned by Indict researchers and was described by them as being "unshakeable". He said he is also prepared to testify in court about the incident.[1]. O'Neill never responded to Clwyds letter or the offer of more corroboration.
I am not the world's biggest fan of capital punishment, but there are cases - like this one - where it is absolutely deserved and necessary. Perhaps I'm a little more sensitive about monsters like Saddam because another such monster, back in the 1940's wiped out a good portion of my extended family. So I don't fell too guilty about enjoying the demise of the Butcher of Baghdad. As a favor, though, I'd like to ask you all to join me at the moment of justice and say a prayer for Saddam's many victims. Thanks.
- Andy.
..But I have no problem with justice being served...and high time too!
He is an evil man.
Although I couldn't get the video to load, your point is well made, friend. Saddam's creativity in his loathsome cruelty is beyond belief. His sons were as bad or worse; it's said that Uday would personally (and gleefully) watch his 'victims' go through these shredders.
Imagine just how sick......how inhuman.....one must be...............
I heard Charles Krauthammer say today that Saddam would take his boys, the late Uday and Qusay (which are both now ed-day) with him to the torture chambers so they could learn how to do it. It makes me want to vomit.
Yeah but imagine having panties put on your head.
that would be far worse /sarc
Yep, he did.
The one he used was a large commercial model, capable of shredding television cabinets, plastic auto parts and other large items, to include humans.
He ensured that others watched the mayhem.
It elicited some interesting information from the watchees, to say the least.
Saddam is/was evil incarnate.
Are there Freepers supporting Saddam????
There were evil and so is he....(though I wish it were in past tense).
The link shows no blood, no human torture, it's shredder and a plastic toy is dumped in it. It does give a quite accurate view of what happens.
It's just some plastic being shredded. .....not to worry.
Normally I'd check something like this video out but, whew, just can't do it this time.
BUT! I'm glad it's out there to show the doubters just what kind of sadistic puke Saddam is.
It should load, but it might be getting inadvertantly 'freeped' right now, due to the large number of people hitting the vid.
Try later, it is a must-see. When you see it, tell me your reaction.
I'd like to go on record as supporting Saddam - and when my muscles finally fail and I have to let him go, he'll drop through that square hole until he reaches the end of that rope and his neck snaps.
Immediate Medical Effects in Halabja
Death by asphyxiation
Skin burns and blisters
Impaired vision, blindness
Breathing difficulty, respiratory shutdown
Vomiting, diarrhea, digestive shutdown
Neurological disorder
Convulsions, coma
Long-term Medical Effects Halabja:
Permanent blindness
Disfigurement
Respiratory, digestive, and neurological disorders Leukemia, lymphoma, and colon, breast, lung, skin, and other cancers
Increased miscarriages and infertility
Severe congenital malformations and other birth defects
The vid just shows a toy truck being chewed up, it's SFW
Watch it. It's just a plastic toy they are shredding. It's safe.
Ah, ok.
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