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Why does Saddam Hussein deserve to die? (Vanity)
YouTube ^ | Friday, Dec 29, 2006 | By Lazamataz

Posted on 12/29/2006 4:00:46 PM PST by Lazamataz

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To: SoftballMominVA
he put victims in a freaking shredder?

He put victims in a freaking shredder.

21 posted on 12/29/2006 4:13:10 PM PST by Lazamataz (I just want to be loved from the bellybutton down. Is that so wrong?)
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To: Lazamataz

In the leadup to the 2003 Invasion of Iraq, there were a large number of reports of an infamous plastic shredder into which Saddam and Qusay Hussein fed opponents of their Baathist rule.

The first mention of the woodchipper came at a March 12 2003 meeting, when James Mahon addressed the House of Commons after returning from research in northern Iraq.

Ann Clwyd wrote in The Times six days later, an article entitled "See men shredded, then say you don't back war," saying that an unnamed Iraqi had said the Husseins (sic) used a woodchipper to gruesomely kill male opponents, and used their shredded bodies as fish food. Later she would add that it was believed to be housed in Abu Ghraib prison. Two days later Australian Prime Minister John Howard made reference to the "human-shredding machine".

Melanie Phillips wrote in The Daily Mail, saying that the machine resulted in "bodies...chewed up from foot to head". In William Shawcross's 2003 book , he claimed that Saddam Hussein "fed people into huge shredders, feet first to prolong the agony".

In 2003, Ken Joseph claimed to have been one of the anti-war Human Shields that had traveled to Iraq, but said that he returned disgusted by tales of slow torture like the plastic shredder, and became an advocate of the war instead. However, it was quickly asserted by the groups that organised the shield action that they had never heard of him, and that it was possible he had never even been to the country.

The Sun's political editor Trevor Kavanagh wrote in February 2004 that "Public opinion swung behind Tony Blair as voters learned how Saddam fed dissidents feet first into industrial shredders"

In 2004, in The Guardian, Brendan O'Neill openly questioned the existence of the woodchipper, asking for Clwyd and Mahon to provide evidence or the names of the Iraqis who gave them the story. He spoke with the doctor who dealt with executed prisoners at Abu Grahib during Saddam Hussein's rule, who said that all executions were performed by hanging, and denied claims that there was a shredder of any type. Clwyd responded to O'Neill’s allegations in a letter published in the Guardian stating that “Brendan O'Neill was told by my office, but chose not to include in his article, the following information. In his statement, the witness who said that people were killed by the shredder was very specific: he named individuals who he said were killed in the shredder and the individuals who he said supervised the execution by shredder; he stated where the shredder was located and the month and year when the executions took place. The witness was closely questioned by Indict researchers and was described by them as being "unshakeable". He said he is also prepared to testify in court about the incident.”[1]. O'Neill never responded to Clwyd’s letter or the offer of more corroboration.


22 posted on 12/29/2006 4:13:40 PM PST by Dallas59 (HAPPY NEW YEAR 2007!)
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To: Lazamataz; All

I am not the world's biggest fan of capital punishment, but there are cases - like this one - where it is absolutely deserved and necessary. Perhaps I'm a little more sensitive about monsters like Saddam because another such monster, back in the 1940's wiped out a good portion of my extended family. So I don't fell too guilty about enjoying the demise of the Butcher of Baghdad. As a favor, though, I'd like to ask you all to join me at the moment of justice and say a prayer for Saddam's many victims. Thanks.
- Andy.


23 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:17 PM PST by andy58-in-nh
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yes, it gives us a valid reason to have taken him out of power. For that, the media is regretful and avoids the issue at all levels of effort.
24 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:18 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: Lazamataz
I can't bring myself to watch your link...

..But I have no problem with justice being served...and high time too!

He is an evil man.

25 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:29 PM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: Lazamataz

Although I couldn't get the video to load, your point is well made, friend. Saddam's creativity in his loathsome cruelty is beyond belief. His sons were as bad or worse; it's said that Uday would personally (and gleefully) watch his 'victims' go through these shredders.

Imagine just how sick......how inhuman.....one must be...............


26 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:30 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: najida

I heard Charles Krauthammer say today that Saddam would take his boys, the late Uday and Qusay (which are both now ed-day) with him to the torture chambers so they could learn how to do it. It makes me want to vomit.


27 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:39 PM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah but imagine having panties put on your head.

that would be far worse /sarc


28 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:42 PM PST by lonestar67 (Its time to withdraw from the War on Bush-- your side is hopelessly lost in a quagmire.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
I'm asking a real question--he put victims in a freaking shredder?

Yep, he did.

The one he used was a large commercial model, capable of shredding television cabinets, plastic auto parts and other large items, to include humans.

He ensured that others watched the mayhem.

It elicited some interesting information from the watchees, to say the least.

Saddam is/was evil incarnate.

29 posted on 12/29/2006 4:14:59 PM PST by OldSmaj (Death to Islam. I am now and will always be, a sworn enemy of all things muslim.)
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To: Lazamataz

Are there Freepers supporting Saddam????


30 posted on 12/29/2006 4:15:08 PM PST by Howlin
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw

There were evil and so is he....(though I wish it were in past tense).


31 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:20 PM PST by najida (If it wasn't for fast food, I'd have no food at all.)
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To: Guenevere

The link shows no blood, no human torture, it's shredder and a plastic toy is dumped in it. It does give a quite accurate view of what happens.


32 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:24 PM PST by mosquewatch.com (The trouble starts with an "I" and ends with a "slam".)
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To: Guenevere
I can't bring myself to watch your link...

It's just some plastic being shredded. .....not to worry.

33 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:29 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: SoftballMominVA; Lazamataz

Normally I'd check something like this video out but, whew, just can't do it this time.

BUT! I'm glad it's out there to show the doubters just what kind of sadistic puke Saddam is.


34 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:43 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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To: RightOnline
Although I couldn't get the video to load

It should load, but it might be getting inadvertantly 'freeped' right now, due to the large number of people hitting the vid.

Try later, it is a must-see. When you see it, tell me your reaction.

35 posted on 12/29/2006 4:16:56 PM PST by Lazamataz (I just want to be loved from the bellybutton down. Is that so wrong?)
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To: Lazamataz

I'd like to go on record as supporting Saddam - and when my muscles finally fail and I have to let him go, he'll drop through that square hole until he reaches the end of that rope and his neck snaps.


36 posted on 12/29/2006 4:17:13 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: Lazamataz
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37 posted on 12/29/2006 4:17:27 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear... on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Ladysmith

The vid just shows a toy truck being chewed up, it's SFW


38 posted on 12/29/2006 4:17:29 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: Guenevere
I can't bring myself to watch your link...

Watch it. It's just a plastic toy they are shredding. It's safe.

39 posted on 12/29/2006 4:17:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (I just want to be loved from the bellybutton down. Is that so wrong?)
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To: SoftballMominVA

Ah, ok.


40 posted on 12/29/2006 4:18:55 PM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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