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UT to Explore Fate of Statues that Honor Confederacy
Houston Chronicle ^ | 12/27/06 | AP

Posted on 12/29/2006 8:22:58 PM PST by BnBlFlag

Houston & Texas News

Dec. 27, 2006, 10:53PM UT to explore fate of statues that honor the Confederacy

AUSTIN — University of Texas President William Powers Jr. said he plans to form an advisory committee to study whether something should be done about the numerous campus statues honoring the Confederacy.

The statues have in recent history become a topic of debate among students, professors and administrators.

They include four bronze figures on the South Mall honoring Confederate leaders such as Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States, and Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Powers said he plans to appoint a committee of advisers early next year, probably including faculty and students.

"The whole range of options is on the table," Powers said.

"A lot of students, and especially minority students, have raised concerns. And those are understandable and legitimate concerns. On the other hand, the statues have been here for a long time, and that's something we have to take into account as well."

Some critics have proposed removing the Davis and Lee statues and placing them in a museum.

Statuary on the UT campus has grown more diverse over the years, partly as a result of student-led efforts. A student tax raised funds to install a statue of Martin Luther King Jr., the black civil rights leader, in 1999.

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KEYWORDS: confederacy; culturewars; damnyankees; offendedalert; southernheritage; ut
There is no end to the relentless attacks on Southern Heritage by PC Southern Schools. These Scalawags are much worse than their Leftist Northern Masters they're trying to please.
1 posted on 12/29/2006 8:23:01 PM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: stainlessbanner

Here's one for the Dixie ping list.

Here we go again... (or maybe still)


2 posted on 12/29/2006 8:24:42 PM PST by RebelBanker (It is, however somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.)
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To: BnBlFlag
Kwanza offends me. Can I get it baned?

Thought so. Oh, well.
3 posted on 12/29/2006 8:24:53 PM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: PeteB570

Treason offends me.


4 posted on 12/29/2006 8:28:27 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: BnBlFlag

oh come on....can't we just destroy History and be done with it.....just think....no History to learn from.....no History to learn from one can't think, one can't think one can't learn, vicious, vicious cycle.....


5 posted on 12/29/2006 8:31:22 PM PST by no-to-illegals (God Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform, Our Heroes.)
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To: BnBlFlag


This is a dishonest attempt to revise history, and the PC War is back on again I see.

Hopefully the Alumni will get wind and cut the purse strings.


6 posted on 12/29/2006 8:32:36 PM PST by padre35 (We are surrounded, that simplifies our problem Chesty Puller)
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To: padre35

Well, they can always put them into some dusty cellar
with the statues of Washington and Jefferson.


7 posted on 12/29/2006 8:35:24 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: BnBlFlag

Just keep scrubbing history and maybe some day we can say it never happened at all. Sounds like something Stalin would do.


8 posted on 12/29/2006 8:42:41 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: BnBlFlag
As I said on another thread on this subject:

"Okay.....we'll put statues of Buckwheat, Aunt Jemimah, and a Lawn Jockey next to those they want to remove, so we have equal representation!"

9 posted on 12/29/2006 8:50:32 PM PST by traditional1
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To: BnBlFlag

Seems certain Union elites do not like to be reminded that the State is divisible despite the rhetoric in their so called Pledge of Allegiance -to the Yankee State that is.


10 posted on 12/29/2006 9:00:29 PM PST by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: BnBlFlag

The people who have "issues" with the statues aren't fit to shine Robert E. Lee's shoes.

They need to get back in the classroom and put more time into their studies and less into whining.


11 posted on 12/29/2006 9:07:32 PM PST by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: BnBlFlag

"People separated from their history are easily persuaded." --Karl Marx

Marx marches on!


12 posted on 12/29/2006 9:17:53 PM PST by DBrow
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To: donmeaker

Then why do you live in California?


13 posted on 12/29/2006 9:18:57 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Felis_irritable

"The people who have 'issues' with the statues aren't fit to shine Robert E. Lee's shoes".
I agree wholeheartedly. It's time to start putting the pressure on these PC Wimps that run UT today.


14 posted on 12/29/2006 9:19:43 PM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Liberty Valance
"scrubbing history" ... seems like something some like doing. ("The statues have in recent history become a topic of debate among students, professors and administrators." ) Maybe they have too much time on their hands and need some other form of physical and mental exertion.

These are the statutes on the South Mall: * Jefferson Davis, President of the Confederate States * Woodrow Wilson, 28th President of the U.S. * Albert Sidney Johnston, General of the Confederate Army * James Stephen Hogg, First Native Governor of Texas * Robert E. Lee, Chief General of the Confederate Military * John H. Reagan, Postmaster General of the Confederate States * George Washington, Cherry Tree Lumberjack.

So the Confederates are Davis, Johnson, Lee and Reagan. Do we stop there. Should also look to the State Capitol grounds as it has a Confederate War Memorial. After all it's State-owned land just like the University. Is Woodrow Wilson associated with anything that offends? How about George Washington? Should we go on?

History is history, like it or not. If we start by taking away these statutes because someone is offended by the past ... what's next. As I said before I think some have too much time on their hands.
15 posted on 12/29/2006 9:20:22 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: streetpreacher

Someone has to fight to keep Santa Monica and San Francisco in check.

Think of it as Missionary work.


16 posted on 12/29/2006 9:27:34 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: donmeaker

Good one.


17 posted on 12/29/2006 10:08:11 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: BnBlFlag

I went to UT and this has been controversial for years. I always walked by those statues. Never gave much thought of them. Never offended me.


18 posted on 12/29/2006 10:11:42 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: Ptarmigan

I grew up in central Texas and attended UT Austin as an undergraduate. Besides the Confederate leader likenesses, there also stands a W. Wilson, a G. Wasington, striding great his hand on his hilt, an M.L. King, and other fine sculptures. The controversial statues intriqued me and led me investigate the Civil War and to think about our country, just as the other statues did. I say leave them in place. Remove not the ancient landmark which your fathers set up, wisdom advises.


19 posted on 12/29/2006 11:37:17 PM PST by civis ("Paging Hillaire Belloc!")
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To: BnBlFlag

bttt for the day shift.


20 posted on 12/30/2006 9:48:08 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: civis

Same here. I took photos of those statues. Most people don't know that Woodrow Wilson was a racist and did not support suffrage. Robert E. Lee on the other hand opposed slavery and even freed his own family slaves. Lee also opposed the Confederency and only sided with them because he was loyal to the Commonwealth of Virginia.


21 posted on 12/30/2006 2:03:15 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: Ptarmigan
Most people don't know that Woodrow Wilson was a racist and did not support suffrage. Robert E. Lee on the other hand opposed slavery and even freed his own family slaves.

Robert Lee was, at best, mildly opposed to slavery. He believed it was a necessary evil, and as late as 1865 he was calling it the best situation for blacks in the South.

Having said that I see no reason why his statue should be taken down. You can find flaws with any and all of the men who's statues grace the campus - except maybe the statue of the Longhorn Band Member.

22 posted on 12/30/2006 2:10:12 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Everyone has a flaw. It's what makes us human.


23 posted on 12/30/2006 2:15:50 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: Ptarmigan
Everyone has a flaw. It's what makes us human.

Even the unknown Longhorn Band Member?

24 posted on 12/30/2006 2:27:23 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Okay, with every famous historical figure and leader. The unknown Longhorn Band Member is flawless.


25 posted on 12/30/2006 11:23:13 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Ptarmigans will rise again!)
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To: BnBlFlag

http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/02/texas-and-our-nation-under-attack-its.html


26 posted on 02/16/2007 7:28:36 AM PST by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: Ptarmigan; Non-Sequitur

Unknown Longhorn Band Member
27 posted on 02/16/2007 7:35:12 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Liberty Valance

http://www.utexas.edu/tours/statues/davis.html
UT Virtual Statue Tour


28 posted on 02/16/2007 7:40:14 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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