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Hillary falls to earth in poll race
The Sunday Times ^ | December 31, 2006 | Tony Allen-Mills

Posted on 12/30/2006 6:26:31 PM PST by neverdem

THE first vote is still more than a year away, but the campaign to replace President George W Bush in the White House is already throwing up surprises.

Unfortunately for Senator Hillary Clinton, long the front-runner in the Democratic drive to retake the presidency, most of them are coming at her expense.

A brace of Christmas opinion polls has left Clinton with a political hangover after a year that had appeared to cement her status as the Democrats’ best-organised, best-financed and best-connected contender for her party’s presidential nomination.

Despite winning re-election to the US Senate by a handsome margin in mid-term voting last month, Clinton has had little to celebrate as polls from the presidential primary battlegrounds signalled early trouble for her historic bid to become America’s first woman president.

In Iowa, the Midwestern state that will once again open the primary season with its caucus votes on January 14, 2008, Clinton slumped to fourth place with only 10% of the vote in a survey of 600 likely Democratic voters.

In New Hampshire, which will hold the first full primary eight days later, Clinton had appeared to be cruising comfortably with a 23-point lead over her Democrat rivals — until last weekend, when a poll in the Concord Monitor newspaper showed her only one point ahead of Senator Barack Obama, the comparative political newcomer who is considering a similarly historic attempt to become America’s first black president.

Obama’s emergence as a charismatic alternative to the Democratic party’s veteran leadership — and the arrival in the race last week of former Senator John Edwards, the losing vice-presidential candidate in 2004 — have electrified Washington and placed Clinton under early pressure to abandon her cautious approach to the presidency and take to the hustings months earlier than she might have planned.

Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive” in the new year to counter the saturated media coverage that has helped propel Obama up the polls.

Clinton has been virtually invisible as first Obama and then Edwards — who launched his second presidential bid on Thursday in the back garden of a New Orleans house ruined by Hurricane Katrina — have been grabbing campaign headlines.

Last week’s Iowa poll showed Obama and Edwards tied for the primary lead with 22% each.

Clinton supporters argued that their candidate’s poor showing — she was also beaten by Tom Vilsack, the Iowa governor who is considering his own bid for the White House — reflected the fact that she was focused on her Senate re-election in New York and did not visit Iowa this year.

Yet Obama hasn’t visited Iowa either, and the same poll found that both Obama and Edwards would perform better than Clinton against the likely frontrunners for the Republican nomination — former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Senator John McCain of Arizona.

“She’s in a quandary right now,” acknowledged Ray Strother, a longtime Democratic political consultant.

“She doesn’t need to start a war of any kind, but I don’t think she knows how to handle [Obama],” Strother said. “I think they’re preoccupied with it right now.”

Neither Clinton nor Obama has formally declared that they will be candidates, but Obama, the son of a black Kenyan father and a white mother from Kansas, is widely expected to confirm his intentions after spending Christmas in Hawaii discussing the contest with his family.

Before leaving home in Chicago, Obama and his wife Michelle attended a meeting with advisers who presented a campaign simulation complete with mock travel schedules to illustrate the gruelling demands of the race.

Michelle Obama had previously expressed concern that her husband might be vulnerable to a racist assassination attempt, but local reports suggest she has been reassured by secret service briefings on how the 45-year-old senator would be protected.

Clinton, meanwhile, needs no reminder of the perils of the presidency. As the first former first lady to run for the White House, she is not only a battle-hardened campaigner, but she counts among her advisers arguably the shrewdest political strategist in America — her husband, former president Bill Clinton.

Few presidents have been as adept as Clinton at charming ordinary voters, but opinion polls have repeatedly indicated that much of America regards Hillary as cold, calculating, strident and ideological.

In one Gallup poll last month 13% said they disliked her 9% said she was riding her husband’s coat-tails and 6% called her dishonest.

Both Democrats and Republicans who have worked with the senator in Washington say those negative ratings are unfair, but the challenge for Hillary is to persuade voters — especially in Iowa and New Hampshire — that she can be as warm and likeable as her husband.

“People need to get to know her,” said Doug Hattaway, a Washington strategist.

He said he would advise Clinton: “Forget the press. Forget the politics. Talk to the voters. There’s no substitute for getting on the ground and interacting with people”.

For the other contenders who are hovering at the margins of the race, the main hope is that Democratic voters will prove reluctant to make the unprecedented choice of either a black or a woman in a year when so important an opportunity beckons and Republicans may be vulnerable because of opposition to the war in Iraq. Edwards has already staked out his claim to be the leading white male contender should either Clinton or Obama stumble.

Senator Joseph Biden, who will assume the chairmanship of the Senate’s foreign affairs committee, may throw in his hat as a possible vice-presidential choice.

There is a vociferous group of liberal Democrats who hope that former vice-president Al Gore can be persuaded to avenge his loss to Bush in 2000.

Even Senator John Kerry, the defeated candidate in 2004, is muttering about a second attempt, although few Democrats appear to be encouraging him.

For now, though, the battle is between Obama and Clinton, neither of whom are likely to wait long before paying their first campaign visits to Iowa.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: boothill; charisma; clintonmania; donotbedeceived; dyingcampaign; electionpresident; fakenewyorker; hellary; hildabeaste; hiliary; hillary; hitlery; medialies; osamarama; uglywomen
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Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive” in the new year to counter the saturated media coverage that has helped propel Obama up the polls.

Preposterous!

1 posted on 12/30/2006 6:26:32 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Michelle Obama had previously expressed concern that her husband might be vulnerable to a racist assassination attempt

. . . paranoia, or just a little race-baiting by the reporter?

2 posted on 12/30/2006 6:29:43 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: neverdem

Gravity meets canckle


3 posted on 12/30/2006 6:30:04 PM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: neverdem

Hillary is about as charismatic as a hemorrhoid , and as likeable as a tarantula.


4 posted on 12/30/2006 6:30:26 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (All I want for Christmas is a new tag line.)
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To: neverdem
“charisma offensive”

Instead of just plain old offensive like she is now.
5 posted on 12/30/2006 6:31:34 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: neverdem
playing possum so that everyone cheers for the comeback kid
6 posted on 12/30/2006 6:32:25 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: AnAmericanMother
"Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive”"

Is this for real....?....

Only thing the clintoon can unleash is an occasional ashtray.

7 posted on 12/30/2006 6:32:46 PM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: neverdem

"Charisma Offensive" is code for another face lift.


8 posted on 12/30/2006 6:34:02 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: neverdem

As Dennis Miller says, Hillery has all the money without the messy trappings of having to earn it.

Why is it the only excitement about Hillery is found at CBS, NBC and CBN?

9 posted on 12/30/2006 6:35:39 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: neverdem
Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive” in the new year

I can just hear her screeching, strident, atonal voice already...

10 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:04 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: spokeshave

Even Clinton's lame attempts at charisma are offensive. She just doesn't have it.


11 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:04 PM PST by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: LdSentinal
it would be cool if they both get the same look

the twister sisters


12 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:30 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: neverdem
“She doesn’t need to start a war of any kind, but I don’t think she knows how to handle [Obama],” Strother said. “I think they’re preoccupied with it right now.”

The problem with Obama is he is one of the few candidates out there for who Hillary doesn't posses an FBI file. Fortunately for Hillary, his family history has many nasty skeletons in Africa, and they are also Muslim. Obama himself was a Muslim for 25 years, and likely only converted for the convenience of political ambition.

13 posted on 12/30/2006 6:37:41 PM PST by montag813
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To: AnAmericanMother

she's already began the charisma offensive with her appearance on the View a week or two ago. "We need a mother in the White House" schtick.


14 posted on 12/30/2006 6:39:16 PM PST by ilgipper
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To: AnAmericanMother

And probably hasn't had any in decades from what I can see.


15 posted on 12/30/2006 6:39:33 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: oyez
Our best result is that Hillary! sucks up all the money, trashes every Democrat opponent, wrecks the Democrat Party in the lead up to Conventions, and then loses. Then the 'Rats can limp across the line and throw up Edwards, Kerry, or a compromised Obama to face the tanned, rested and ready Republican.
16 posted on 12/30/2006 6:40:09 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: neverdem
I can just imagine her in a "charisma offensive"

She has the "offensive" part alright....it's just the "charisma" she is missing and will never had.

You could use Hillary's "charisma", instead of ice, to keep the beer cold.

17 posted on 12/30/2006 6:40:20 PM PST by capt. norm (Liberalism = cowardice disguised as tolerance.)
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To: spokeshave

Just scares the heck out of me that certain groups of Americans are so obsessed with electing a women president that they would be glomming onto this POS as their candidate!


18 posted on 12/30/2006 6:40:55 PM PST by doc1019
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To: neverdem
Few presidents have been as adept as Clinton at charming ordinary voters, but opinion polls have repeatedly indicated that much of America regards Hillary as cold, calculating, strident and ideological.

On this, much of America is right.

19 posted on 12/30/2006 6:41:04 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: montag813
. "Obama himself was a Muslim for 25 years, and likely only converted for the convenience of political ambition"

But....doesn't that place him in jeopardy from any sword wielding islamic?

20 posted on 12/30/2006 6:41:28 PM PST by spokeshave (The Democrat Party stands for open treason in a time of war.)
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To: capt. norm
“People need to get to know her,” said Doug Hattaway, a Washington strategist.

The more people get to know Hillary!, the less they like her.

21 posted on 12/30/2006 6:43:53 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: neverdem
[Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive”...]

Might as well ask a skunk to emit perfume.

22 posted on 12/30/2006 6:43:58 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Democracy: The worst form of government, except for all the others.)
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To: neverdem
That's so funny. She's been the darling of polls whilst keeping her mouth shut. Let's see what happens when she has to say all kinds of crazy things, to satisfy the left wingnuts. "Universal Health Care! Run By US!"
23 posted on 12/30/2006 6:44:58 PM PST by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: msnimje

"Instead of just plain old offensive like she is now."

LOL!


24 posted on 12/30/2006 6:46:41 PM PST by siznartuf (If I Hear "Jobs Americans Won't Do" One More ^%&^%^%# Time)
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To: doc1019

What does it say about women's rights and the whole business of equality, breaking glass ceilings, etc. if..............

if the 1st woman president gets elected only because her husband had been president. If the only way she is a serious candidate is because her husband was president, she's not earning it on her own. In this day and age of equality among the genders, shouldn't a serious female candidate be one who has earned it on her own?


25 posted on 12/30/2006 6:47:14 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: montag813
Obama himself was a Muslim for 25 years, and likely only converted for the convenience of political ambition.

Only trouble with that is, once a Muslim, always a Muslim. You aren't allowed to convert. If you do, they'll kill you, in accordance with the Koran.

Sure, a few Muslims manage to break away, but only by moving to a non-Muslim country and keeping a low profile, or living in secrecy or with armed guards. Can you imagine the reaction when it gets out widely among Muslims around the world that Barack Hussein Obama has betrayed the faith?

26 posted on 12/30/2006 6:48:47 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Great points!


27 posted on 12/30/2006 6:49:11 PM PST by doc1019
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To: neverdem
I sure hope none of this comes as a surprise.

The Clinton "Death and Destruction Machine" has been super fine tuned. It's turned on and running in neutral. Soon enough The Hildabeaste will kick it into drive and the other Donk candidates will drop like flies.

But I'm sure she's in no hurry. Like a cat with a mouse, she's just playing with them for now. 22 months is a long time. No rush.
28 posted on 12/30/2006 6:49:32 PM PST by upchuck (How to win the WOT? Simple: set our rules of engagement to at least match those of our enemy.)
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To: neverdem
Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive” in the new year

The rapist enabler is about as charismatic as a jar of leeches.

29 posted on 12/30/2006 6:50:20 PM PST by stevem
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To: AnAmericanMother
Michelle Obama had previously expressed concern that her husband might be vulnerable to a racist assassination attempt

That's what Colin Powell's wife said when he was considering running; that she doesn't want him to run because 'the white people will kill him.'

30 posted on 12/30/2006 6:52:44 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: stevem

"People need to get to know her"??? Like its our job to understand and live with evil? I think there are like, 245 people that once knew Hilary but are now..er..dead.


31 posted on 12/30/2006 6:54:45 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: neverdem
Several Democratic strategists last week urged Clinton to unleash a “charisma offensive”

I've said it many times - she has no charisma and worst of all is not even likable. She cannot win the presidency, therefore not the nomination, and will be out of the race for it early.

32 posted on 12/30/2006 6:56:21 PM PST by Northern Alliance
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To: TASMANIANRED

CankleCankleCankleCankleCankleCankleCankleCankleCankleCankle

Or as they used to say,

"Body by Mack Truck, and legs by Steinway"

(The Billary's first Secret Service moniker was said to be "Lard Butt and Piano Legs".


33 posted on 12/30/2006 6:56:33 PM PST by elcid1970
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To: Flavius

YOU ARE SOOOOO CORRECT.


34 posted on 12/30/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: neverdem
IMO .. Hellary and Obama are not running against each other .. they are running together

Obama is a rainmaker for the DNC and can pull in the votes and $$$$ from not just the base but also from the independents that they need to win

Obama will settle for 2nd fiddle knowing the top spot is right around the corner

Read his 2nd book

35 posted on 12/30/2006 6:57:51 PM PST by Mo1
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To: neverdem
Edwards scares me. Charismatic and charming, unlike the last two empty suits that ran. Democrat women will flock to him in droves. Sort of like a JFK-lite.

Hopefully Hillary! will sabotage his campaign in good shape.

36 posted on 12/30/2006 6:58:14 PM PST by wbill
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To: neverdem

Iowa is meaningless. She'll announce that she isn't participating, and then ignore the result. Or she'll get a "favorite son" of some kind to get in the race, making the entire exercise meaningless.


37 posted on 12/30/2006 6:59:15 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: neverdem

Clinton-Obama in 08

Count on it


38 posted on 12/30/2006 6:59:28 PM PST by Chickensoup (If you don't go to the holy war, the holy war will come to you.)
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To: doc1019
Just scares the heck out of me that certain groups of Americans are so obsessed with electing a women president that they would be glomming onto this POS as their candidate!

Is there any other group besides liberal women?

39 posted on 12/30/2006 7:04:18 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
. . . paranoia,

Maybe she knows the name of that park in washington? Hussein needs to find who hired Livingston very quickly. LOL

40 posted on 12/30/2006 7:04:52 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: montag813
Obama himself was a Muslim for 25 years, and likely only converted for the convenience of political ambition.

More than anything else, his deep Muslim roots should worry a person.

However my little crystal ball says that (at least right now) neither Obama or Hilary will become their potus nominee.

W.
41 posted on 12/30/2006 7:07:23 PM PST by RunningWolf (2-1 Cav 1975)
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To: neverdem

Hmmmmm . . .

so . . . TWO

Machiavellian, power mongering; greedy, ruthless, evil, satanic tyrants fell today.

How nice.


42 posted on 12/30/2006 7:09:38 PM PST by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: neverdem

btt for later read


43 posted on 12/30/2006 7:09:55 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Flavius

Obama, the empty suit has lots of charisma but no beef. Perhaps money will overcome his emptiness. Hil may actually lose to Edwards, the Breck Girl. What a joy!


44 posted on 12/30/2006 7:11:25 PM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Mo1; Chickensoup

You both are right on the mark. Clinton and Obama '08 is what they are working on.


45 posted on 12/30/2006 7:12:04 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: neverdem

There is only one roadblock for Hillary -- http://hillcap.org/default.php?page_id=2


46 posted on 12/30/2006 7:15:24 PM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Michelle Obama had previously expressed concern that her husband might be vulnerable to a racist assassination attempt

Reporterette: Aren't you worried that your husband is vulnerable to a racist assassination attempt?

Mrs. Obama: I suppose that might be concern. /s

HF

47 posted on 12/30/2006 7:18:03 PM PST by holden
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To: phillyfanatic

there is no way Queen will be detrhoned ....

My bet is C with O ... with an 51.5% win


48 posted on 12/30/2006 7:18:39 PM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks for the link!


49 posted on 12/30/2006 7:22:30 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
Clinton, meanwhile, needs no reminder of the perils of the presidency. As the first former first lady to run for the White House, she is not only a battle-hardened campaigner, but she counts among her advisers arguably the shrewdest political strategist in America — her husband, former president Bill Clinton.

A man easily distracted by any blonde with a short skirt...

50 posted on 12/30/2006 7:23:10 PM PST by thiscouldbemoreconfusing
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