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Middle School Girls Gone Wild
New York Times ^ | 29 December 2006 | LAWRENCE DOWNES

Posted on 12/30/2006 7:27:56 PM PST by shrinkermd

It’s hard to write this without sounding like a prig. But it’s just as hard to erase the images that planted the idea for this essay, so here goes. The scene is a middle school auditorium, where girls in teams of three or four are bopping to pop songs at a student talent show. Not bopping, actually, but doing elaborately choreographed re-creations of music videos, in tiny skirts or tight shorts, with bare bellies, rouged cheeks and glittery eyes.

They writhe and strut, shake their bottoms, splay their legs, thrust their chests out and in and out again. Some straddle empty chairs, like lap dancers without laps. They don’t smile much. Their faces are locked from grim exertion, from all that leaping up and lying down without poles to hold onto. “Don’t stop don’t stop,” sings Janet Jackson, all whispery. “Jerk it like you’re making it choke. ...Ohh. I’m so stimulated. Feel so X-rated.” The girls spend a lot of time lying on the floor. They are in the sixth, seventh and eighth grades.

As each routine ends, parents and siblings cheer, whistle and applaud. I just sit there, not fully comprehending. It’s my first suburban Long Island middle school talent show. I’m with my daughter, who is 10 and hadn’t warned me. I’m not sure what I had expected, but it wasn’t this. It was something different. Something younger. Something that didn’t make the girls look so ... one-dimensional.

It would be easy to chalk it up to adolescent rebellion, an ancient and necessary phenomenon, except these girls were barely adolescents and they had nothing to rebel against. This was an official function at a public school, a milieu that in another time or universe might have seen children singing folk ballads, say, or reciting the Gettysburg Address.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: culturewar; dancing; education; girls; indoctrination; middleschool; moralabsolutes; publikskoolz; schools; sex; sexualizingchildren; teensex
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"...What surprised me, though, was how completely parents of even younger girls seem to have gotten in step with society’s march toward eroticized adolescence — either willingly or through abject surrender. And if parents give up, what can a school do? A teacher at the middle school later told me she had stopped chaperoning dances because she was put off by the boy-girl pelvic thrusting and had no way to stop it — the children wouldn’t listen to her and she had no authority to send anyone home. She guessed that if the school had tried to ban the sexy talent-show routines, parents would have been the first to complain, having shelled out for costumes and private dance lessons for their Little Miss Sunshines.

FYI East of the Apple Chain Mountain Alert

1 posted on 12/30/2006 7:27:57 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

I'm sad to say, it's some of what the mussies see and hate about us... I hate it too. Just a prig I guess.


2 posted on 12/30/2006 7:31:24 PM PST by nctexan (O)
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To: shrinkermd

Destined to become tomorrow's man-hating, childless, therapy-seeking, 32-cat owning spinsters, IMO.


3 posted on 12/30/2006 7:35:05 PM PST by Mr J (All IMHO.)
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To: shrinkermd
Well June, If girls want to be hoochies, who are we to stop that?


4 posted on 12/30/2006 7:35:09 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"It’s hard to write this without sounding like a prig."

He writes for the NY Slimes. He is a prig.


5 posted on 12/30/2006 7:39:18 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted." Lenin)
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To: shrinkermd
Well, the school administration could step in and set standards, but that might be asking too much.
6 posted on 12/30/2006 7:39:36 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: shrinkermd
They have these "dance" classes where my 4 year old son takes gymnastics. Parents actually watch and encourage their 6 year old and up girls to do this. It is despicable. My daughters will never do this. Balet, yes, air sex, no.

Interesting enough, my 12 year old nephew saw this with his parents and siblings at his school in CA. His younger sister (9) said, "look at those dancers". The 12 year old said, "that's not dancing, that's sex".

7 posted on 12/30/2006 7:40:31 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: shrinkermd

Since when did the Slimes care about pre-teens dancing sexually? This is akin to abortionists showing concern over miscarriages.


8 posted on 12/30/2006 7:42:23 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: shrinkermd
As each routine ends, parents and siblings cheer, whistle and applaud.

Parents applaud their daughters bumping and grinding to music with “Jerk it like you’re making it choke....Ohh. I’m so stimulated....Feel so X-rated" lyrics?

Sick.

9 posted on 12/30/2006 7:42:47 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"Wally, we absolutely forbid you to date Mary Ellen Rogers again. You and Beaver go take a bath."


10 posted on 12/30/2006 7:43:07 PM PST by battlegearboat
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To: kerryusama04

These 'dance' classes started cropping up about 8 years ago and have escalated to some ungodly point. My SIL had her 7 year old niece quit gymnastics after she saw the floor show of an older group and realized that what she was seeing was nothing more than soft core kiddie porn. The mothers were actually showing the 9 year olds how to gyrate their hips and used the words "pout a bit more" "look sexier" "put your hand lower" She told me it was sickening. I can only imagine how these girls will act when they are in high school a few years from now.


11 posted on 12/30/2006 7:44:35 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: shrinkermd
You know, parents simply need to set limits. I have two high school boys and one middle school girl. I just tell them certain things are off limits. I speak with confidence and don't overexplain my reasons or try to negotiate. They actually listen, as though they expect me to take charge. It works.

Parents have been sold bill of goods that they have to "choose their fights" and only prohibit the most outlandish behavior while letting little things slide. Parents have to be parents of the little things before kids will listen about the big things. If you can't get your boys to keep their underware covered or have your girls cover their midriffs, you won't have much clout when you need to set more important sexual standards.
12 posted on 12/30/2006 7:45:03 PM PST by keats5 (tolerance of intolerant people is cultural suicide)
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To: SoftballMominVA

make that "my" 7 year old niece, who btw is now in Teeball, a much better sport where the bodies stay covered and noone is judged on how cute you look.


13 posted on 12/30/2006 7:45:41 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA

You're too late. It's already in the government High Schools. Schools that my kids will not be attending, either.


14 posted on 12/30/2006 7:46:24 PM PST by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20, Eze 22:26)
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To: kerryusama04

I'm very lucky to have a good dance studio for my kids, which is popular and successful, but really in tune with parents' wishes when it comes to this stuff. There is no booty-popping in the hip hop classes for kids. No belly shirts. No t-shirts are allowed with lewd things on them. It's nice.


15 posted on 12/30/2006 7:50:13 PM PST by lainie ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
He writes for the NY Slimes. He is a prig.

He might be a prig, but this is what IS happening in the schools. My grandson is 10 and hasn't experienced it yet, but I've heard about it from parents of older kids & also heard a radio show with call-ins about this also.

YES, it's the parents who need to set limits, but it's the same parents who seem to be encouraging it & pushing their daughters to do this! SICK is right!

16 posted on 12/30/2006 7:51:05 PM PST by blondee123
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To: battlegearboat
Awe geeze Mom, Mary Ellen does some really neat stuff!


17 posted on 12/30/2006 7:51:37 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: All

Homeschool


18 posted on 12/30/2006 7:52:08 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: shrinkermd
Usually on threads like this, we have one or two freepers who say "I graduated High School in the 1950's, and believe me this is nothing new ... I remember all the girls in 6th grade dancing like this to Buddy Holly."

Myself, I graduated HS in 1978 and the school dances back then were nothing like what goes on today. I can't believe the decline in standards (and the standards in 1978 were not all that high).

19 posted on 12/30/2006 7:52:15 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This is probably just one of their rare times that they try to look "objective." And now they'll eagerly look forward to (and print) all the hate mail that comes in from their "enlightened" readers castigating this guy as a "prig" and a "Republican" and a "fundie." Anyone who writes agreeing with him will, of course, have zero chance of getting their letter into print.


20 posted on 12/30/2006 7:54:21 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: shrinkermd

Of course, they STILL want to act like rape is against the law!

These girls can parade around dressed like prostitutes and then they blame the BOYS for getting aroused!

I couldn't be happier I never had a girl in this day and age!


21 posted on 12/30/2006 7:55:06 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: shrinkermd

Is wickedness becoming biblical in its proportions?


22 posted on 12/30/2006 7:55:12 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: shrinkermd
I have an 18 year old daughter who danced for ~14 years. I've sat through more recitals and competitions than I could possibly remember. However, there are a couple that do stand out. There was one competition in particular that included several other dance studios from the Denver-metro area. Ballet, tap, jazz, funk, stuff I don't know about and then what can only be described as the erotic-dancers-in-training division.

I'm certainly no pearly-white innocent, but good grief these girls were WAAAY too young to be wearing stuff like that and/or moving like that to nasty music. My x-wife had warned me that one studio was especially excessive with this stuff and she was right. When the teacher-division was going on, one of the "teachers" from that studio did a little number. I've seen erotic dancers do less. Lets just say the applause afterwords had a distinctively male tone to it. Had she been a little closer I would have slipped a dollar bill in her outfit just to make the point. She had the body, the look and the hair that could make her rich in a high end strip club.

This is just my opinion, worth less then you'll pay for it, but I believe that most women have ZERO understanding of how men are effected by that sort of visual show.

After that competition I had a conversation with the gal who runs the studio my daughter attended. I told her that I was pleased that none of the dances performed by her studio and none of the costumes worn by her dancers grossly exceeded basic decency. Granted, some were a little edgy for me, but nothing, and I mean NOTHING, in comparison.
23 posted on 12/30/2006 7:55:41 PM PST by mad puppy ( For me, 2007 will be the best year I've had in a long time)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I can't believe the decline in standards

Thank the pot smoking, liberal parents of these kids today!!!

24 posted on 12/30/2006 7:56:04 PM PST by blondee123
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"Just you be sure that Beaver is clean."


25 posted on 12/30/2006 7:57:02 PM PST by battlegearboat
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To: nctexan; shrinkermd

I'm more of a prude when it comes to this topic. I work at a middle school, and I do not like seeing little girls becoming overly sexualized by this society. I hate even more seeing the children at the elementary schools I also work at wearing clothing that have been shown at fashion shows and designed for adult women (even then, I don't like seeing those fashions on adult women). While I want the enemies we are presently fighting defeated, I can certainly see why they don't want us involved in their world.


26 posted on 12/30/2006 7:57:16 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: kerryusama04

Both of my daughters attended public high school,(my younger is a junior) but they never went to the dances. Not their scene. I was glad and never pushed them to go to the prom. Now the after prom party was another story. That was put on my parents and apparantly was a great deal of clean fun which they enjoyed.


27 posted on 12/30/2006 7:59:04 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: shrinkermd
Our girls are bratz, not slutz, they would argue, comfortable in the existence of a distinction.

I never noticed much of a distinction myself. There is definately a slutty aspect to the Bratz toys.

28 posted on 12/30/2006 8:00:07 PM PST by elmer fudd
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To: kerryusama04
But don't think for a minute it doesn't go on in private high schools. It's just as bad, if not worse. The prom stories I've heard are jaw-dropping in their debauchery
29 posted on 12/30/2006 8:00:46 PM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: ClearCase_guy

I'm from your generation, and H.S. dances where I went to school had teachers and parents who were constantly going around the dance floor and putting a stop to any activity deemed inappropriate. Sometimes they were busy, but the behavior was stopped or those students left the dance. I can't see any reason why this approach should not be in use today.


30 posted on 12/30/2006 8:04:29 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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To: shrinkermd

Of course, since O'Reilly reads the NY Times, he'll be all over this. He loves the subject of school students gone wild for some reason or other. Should do him with a eeek of shows I won't watch.


31 posted on 12/30/2006 8:04:36 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: battlegearboat
"Wally, we absolutely forbid you to date Mary Ellen Rogers again. You and Beaver go take a bath."

LOL!!

32 posted on 12/30/2006 8:06:25 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: shrinkermd

Very good article. I have read of schools banning dances because of the simulated sex acts that are called dancing these days. Yep some parents did complain. But too bad for them.

How any parent can watch their daughter strutting like Sluts R Us is beyond me. Yanking my daughter off stage if she had ever done such a thing would only be the first part of a very long grounding.

Parents need to be aware of the toxic music, dance, movies and tv that our children are exposed to every day.
We can do our part by keeping these deadly toxins out of our home. We can provide a haven. We can give them the love and discipline to help them grow into self assured persons. Persons who do not need to define themselves by sexualizing their gifts. We can teach them that all they do should be for the glory of God.


33 posted on 12/30/2006 8:06:25 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I graduate in 1957 and believe me nothing like this would have been tolerated by the parents or the school administration. We were lucky if they let us square dance with the females in our class. As I remember, only once did that happen and the principal's wife was in charge. She was also a teacher and one false move she would have pulled us off the gym floor by the ears.


34 posted on 12/30/2006 8:07:25 PM PST by jerry639
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To: mad puppy
I attended a high school football game and the half time show was a production of glittered dancing girls who 'danced' to Clarence Carter's "STROKIN'".

I'm no prude, but I was stunned at the performance they gave on the smoke filled turf. The crowd thought nothing of it and applauded loudly.

I mentioned it to a friend who explained the new dance rage called the 'freak'. ... well, I guess I'm a dinosaur.

35 posted on 12/30/2006 8:08:04 PM PST by Baynative (There is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress - Mark Twain)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Of course, they STILL want to act like rape is against the law! These girls can parade around dressed like prostitutes and then they blame the BOYS for getting aroused!

Perhaps I'm misreading this. It looks like you're saying that being aroused is an excuse for rape. Most people have roundly rejected the They-Were-Asking-For-It Defense, whether it applies to rape or any other violent crime. Besides, teenaged boys are aroused all the time.

36 posted on 12/30/2006 8:09:08 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Enterprise

The ACLU has fought against standards and dress codes at schools.

Anything goes.


37 posted on 12/30/2006 8:09:42 PM PST by weegee
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To: Caesar Soze

It's not just adolescents. Could you imagine being Britney Spear's parents. I'd be so ashamed, I'd disown her.


39 posted on 12/30/2006 8:10:54 PM PST by umgud (The profound is only so to those that it is.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I graduated HS in 1976 and there was absolutely nothing like the open eroticism seen today. To be honest, there have always been teenagers in the back of cars, but at least it was private and discreet.

Now in the 'zero tolerance' generation, the solutions are reduced to either banning social functions altogether or permitting sordid exhibitions as if nothing can be done. Whatever happened to adult guidance?

40 posted on 12/30/2006 8:14:15 PM PST by Sender ("How do you know what the fish think? You're not a fish." -Hui Zi)
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To: weegee

The thing is though, if the Principal wanted to, he could tell the little darlings that he will not allow overtly suggestive sexual performances, and that it is a privilige to be at or in some school functions, it is not a right. The ACLU might beat him on a dress code, but it might be hard to beat him on a code of conduct matter. He could simply cancel all further functions where they danced or performed as cheerleaders.


41 posted on 12/30/2006 8:14:25 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: shrinkermd

Yep...then they move on to MYSPACE and post their simulated sex scenes for all to see......believe me....I have "relatives" I monitor who are doing this....


42 posted on 12/30/2006 8:15:08 PM PST by goodnesswins (When a "religion" has no commandments.....no wonder no one wants to go to Church on Sunday!)
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To: umgud
I think her parents along with the Simpson (Jessica and sis) basically prostitute their girls. It is all about money.
43 posted on 12/30/2006 8:15:16 PM PST by Kimmers (It's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind when you go)
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To: shrinkermd

Glad I homeschool.


44 posted on 12/30/2006 8:21:47 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: bobby.223

The actor who played "Ward" was homosexual. Holy irony Batman.


45 posted on 12/30/2006 8:22:38 PM PST by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy!" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Caesar Soze
It looks like you're saying that being aroused is an excuse for rape.

Well, I wouldn't say that.

But I think Camille Paglia has a good approach. As I understand it, she feels that rapists should be locked up because such behavior is abominable and inexcusable -- and then the victim (if she's been dressing and dancing like a whore, or perhaps drinking excessively at a fraternity) should be slapped and told "You deserved it, you little slut! I hope you learned something!"

46 posted on 12/30/2006 8:22:59 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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To: Enterprise
Well, the school administration could step in and set standards, but that might be asking too much.

Hey, the students have rights. At least that is what they are taught. Definitely not taught the 3 R's.

47 posted on 12/30/2006 8:24:10 PM PST by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: SoftballMominVA
These 'dance' classes started cropping up about 8 years ago...

20 years ago the gym teacher at the nearby elementary school was teacing her girl charges "go-go dancing".

48 posted on 12/30/2006 8:25:02 PM PST by Mad Dawg (hat)
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To: Caesar Soze

No, I was just not clear. I am NOT saying rape should be OK.

Sorry for my bad formulation!


49 posted on 12/30/2006 8:25:15 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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To: shrinkermd

my wife is a cheerleader sponsor at a Jr. high. Her girls are not allowed to do the suggestive dances. At school dances the kids are not allowed to do suggestive dances. The teachers, principal, and parents are pretty much on the same page.

There is another Jr. high in our area that is a feeder for our high school and things there are completely different. The kids act horrible and the teachers and principal stand there not knowing what to do.

The kids actually want discipline, but some lazy adults don't want to provide it.


50 posted on 12/30/2006 8:26:24 PM PST by Roux
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