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This Clinton machine is a tighter ship
LA Times ^ | 12-31-06 | Stephen Braun

Posted on 12/31/2006 9:00:47 AM PST by STARWISE

Edited on 12/31/2006 9:38:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has spent much of the last month behind closed doors, putting the final touches on a presidential campaign-in-waiting.

Her hectic schedule has been crammed with private lunches and phone conversations with elected officials and political operatives. She has sounded out Democratic Party officials from New York to Des Moines about her chances and hired a cadre of new campaign aides.


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To: STARWISE

The funny part about all this is she is still going to lose. And, she'll suck down a lot of DemocRAT resources with her.


2 posted on 12/31/2006 9:03:26 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: onyx; Mo1; Peach; Txsleuth; Howlin; mystery-ak; kcvl; ravingnutter; piasa; nopardons; ...

Get ready to remember these names:


The inner circle

Old-line Bill Clinton players

TERRY McAULIFFE
"First friend" of the Clintons; key fundraiser and party conduit

JOHN PODESTA
Chief executive at Center for American Progress and former White House chief of staff

JAMES CARVILLE
Democratic campaign consultant; promoted Hillary Rodham Clinton presidential candidacy

HOWARD G. PASTER
Chairman of Burson-Marsteller; former chief White House lobbyist

Hillaryland

The senator's core staff, who gave the name to their close-knit enclave during the 1992 transition period

MARGARET "MAGGIE" WILLIAMS
Former East Wing aide; post-White House chief of staff for Bill Clinton

NEERA TANDEN
Longtime advisor to Hillary Clinton; senior vice president of Center for American Progress

TAMERA LUZZATTO
Senate chief of staff

LORRAINE VOLES
Senate communications director

Democratic Party veterans

ANN LEWIS
Former Democratic National Committee political
director; now communications chief at Hillpac

PHIL SINGER
Former Democratic Senate spokesman; would head "rapid response"

JONATHAN MANTZ
Former Democratic finance official; would be
national finance director

KAREN HICKS
Former Howard Dean presidential campaign aide; would head primary organizing

PETER DAOU
Internet and blogging specialist; worked on John F. Kerry presidential campaign


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One word: nausea


3 posted on 12/31/2006 9:04:42 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: advance_copy

Well, if she can win the presidency, then America deserves no better.


4 posted on 12/31/2006 9:08:57 AM PST by observer5 (It's not a War on Terror - it's a WAR ON STUPIDITY!)
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To: advance_copy

Sure, it's a tighter ship. Captain Bligh is in charge.


5 posted on 12/31/2006 9:10:35 AM PST by popdonnelly
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To: advance_copy
Her hectic schedule has been crammed with private lunches and phone conversations with elected officials and political operatives.

She's been having her government-paid staff call the remainder of the 900 whose FBI Files fell into her lap.

"Just a reminder..."

6 posted on 12/31/2006 9:12:45 AM PST by bannie
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To: STARWISE
ANN LEWIS
Former Democratic National Committee political director;
now communications chief at Hillpac

Don't forget....Reason Barney Frank is gay.

7 posted on 12/31/2006 9:13:40 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: STARWISE

Is Janet Reno in charge of dirty tricks?


8 posted on 12/31/2006 9:14:45 AM PST by oldbrowser (This war isn't over until it's OVER.)
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To: observer5

Yup, SOCIALISM is gaining control of the US. This could be the election that determines the fate of the US.

I fear for my children. Huge taxes on the middle class, state controlled schools, ecconomic decay, massive corruption, state controlled norms and morals, explosion in crime (and no convictions or jail time), etc.

Its like Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange come to life [the book was about the problems of socialism and dangerous leftist programs under the guise of "enlightenment."


9 posted on 12/31/2006 9:15:04 AM PST by whitedog57
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To: advance_copy

There is not anything tight about the Rat party. I will bet big money than Hillary does not have anything tight. I will leave that to others to find out though.


10 posted on 12/31/2006 9:19:31 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: advance_copy

I think you're right. Does anyone else think that her running is just about the best thing she could do for the GOP? LOL Go Hillary go! She can single-handedly just about guarantee a Republican White House in 2008.


11 posted on 12/31/2006 9:19:37 AM PST by CodeMasterPhilzar
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To: whitedog57

"We are going to take things away from you...."


12 posted on 12/31/2006 9:21:42 AM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: advance_copy

I would not underestimate her. A sizeable portion of the nation's political establishment kisses her a$$. That didn't happen by accident.

She could well win. If she does, then we deserve what we get. On the flip side, she can be a real bitch if she wants to be. Consequently, if there is another 9/11 under her watch, someone might get their a$$ nuked.


13 posted on 12/31/2006 9:22:23 AM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: whitedog57

Very well said


14 posted on 12/31/2006 9:23:46 AM PST by cmsgop ( Axis of Evil = North Korea, Iran, Kevin Federline)
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To: bannie; All

FBI files, travel office case dog Clinton

June 23, 1996

(CNN) -- A political tug of war continued Sunday over hundreds of FBI background files improperly obtained by the Clinton administration. The president's staff insists there was no misuse of information, but skeptical Republicans aren't convinced.

Vice President Al Gore repeated the administration's promise to prevent access to such files in the future.

Hatch

The White House conducted what appears to be "a definite effort to find dirt on Republicans," Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, charged Sunday. "Now, whether that's true or not, I don't know. That's why we have to do this investigation."

An investigation of the episode has been added to the portfolio of independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who already is conducting a wide-ranging inquiry into the president's financial and campaign dealings during his tenure as Arkansas governor.

Avoiding the issues

In a live interview on CNN's "Late Edition," Gore defended the White House's handling of the files and said a policy will soon be in place to prevent anyone there from having access to FBI materials.

"We are going to make sure new guidelines are further adhered to so something like this never happens again," Gore said from his farm in Carthage, Tennessee.

Gore

"To the limits of my knowledge," the files did not wind up in the White House for political purposes, the vice president said. "I was sure it was some kind of bureaucratic foul-up . . . We still don't know what happened, but the wrong procedures were used."

In a separate interview on CBS' Face The Nation, White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta said it was "inexcusable" that White House personnel requested background files on people who worked in the Reagan and Bush administrations. But Panetta said there's no evidence that the files were misused.

Both he and Gore criticized Republicans for attacking the White House.

"They can't talk about the real matters facing America. They're out of ideas . . . so they want to bring up all of these other matters and try to pretend that these are the matters of primary concern to the American people. They're not," Gore said.

Referring to Bob Dole, GOP presidential nominee-in-waiting, Panetta said: "He ought to be talking about the issues that effect the future."

But Hatch, also interviewed on CBS, said Republicans supported Starr's investigation. "We're going to continue to follow this until we find out what those answers are."

Gingrich wants files

Gingrich

The administration also was being pressed by Republicans on another front. House Speaker Newt Gingrich Saturday renewed his threat to have White House officials declared in contempt of Congress if they don't turn over 2,000 pages of travel office files.

"These people cannot continue to stonewall, obstruct, delay and lie. And they need to turn over those 2,000 pages by next Wednesday," Gingrich said. The White House has claimed executive privilege over the papers, which have been subpoenaed by a House committee.

The committee is investigating the firing of seven travel office employees early in the Clinton administration and how the administration reacted to earlier inquiries into those dismissals.

15 posted on 12/31/2006 9:23:51 AM PST by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: popdonnelly

Sure, it's a tighter ship. Captain Bligh is in charge.

AND the witch in charge has a whip!


16 posted on 12/31/2006 9:25:06 AM PST by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar

Up until November 7, I was one of those crowing about how welcome a Shrillary candidacy would be for our side, sure she would be put her down once and for all like the B***h she no doubt is.

However, after watching a thin majority of Americans and a massive majority of Jews vote for the party endorsed by those whose aim is to kill us all, I am no longer sure.

The power of the so-called "dinosaur media" to shape the message as well as the outcome, coupled with what can only be termed the weak-minded maleability of the voters, has me concerned for the first time that she may actually become President.


17 posted on 12/31/2006 9:30:44 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: rbg81
On the flip side, she can be a real bitch if she wants to be. Consequently, if there is another 9/11 under her watch, someone might get their a$$ nuked

I've thought the same thing, just didn't want to say it in public. I think she's got a set of brass b*lls, and someone in the middle east might just piss her off...
18 posted on 12/31/2006 9:34:08 AM PST by frankenMonkey (Are there any men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?)
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To: STARWISE
Get ready to remember these names:

What...No Craig Livingstone? What about Sandy Burglar or David "Shorty"
Kendall?

For Goodnes Sakes, don't forget Lanny Davis!!!

19 posted on 12/31/2006 9:43:16 AM PST by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: prov1813man
The power of the so-called "dinosaur media" to shape the message as well as the outcome, coupled with what can only be termed the weak-minded maleability of the voters, has me concerned for the first time that she may actually become President.

That terrible likelihood is why there must be a Republican which really can defeat Hillary. Who, pray tell?

I'm afraid she could defeat McCain, Giuliani, Romney or any others now considered to be running.

20 posted on 12/31/2006 9:45:44 AM PST by Solitar ("My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them." -- Barry Goldwater)
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To: STARWISE

BTW, I am pretty sure that it was Maggie Williams who carried huge numbers of files from Vince Foster's office just after he died.


21 posted on 12/31/2006 9:48:04 AM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: advance_copy

She crammed a lot of private lunches...is that what happened to her ?


22 posted on 12/31/2006 9:59:12 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
Don't get overly confident in her being defeated. The GOP is expert at pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory.

If they nominate some of the names that have been circulating, the GOP will hand victory to the Dems, whomever their nominee is.
23 posted on 12/31/2006 10:01:31 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: oyez

"We are going to take things away from you...."


...that quote is from a socialist gathering in SF about 2 years ago. Even THAT crowd gasped when she said it. All the GOP has to do is advertise her college thesis (Making Socialism Work, or something like that) Replay the "take things away" soundbit over and over and play the footage of her and Bill when they first started flashing those "Universal Health Care" cards 13 years ago. That should do it!


24 posted on 12/31/2006 10:09:59 AM PST by albie
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To: advance_copy

I have been wondering if little Obama has ANY idea the size of the truck about to him him...Right now he is gliding along, floating on the cloud of media praise, but can he possibly be aware of the fact that the Clintons have no concept of "losing gracefully"? Let's start a pool- how long will it take for Hillarious and her "machine" to dig up any of the worst dirt they can find on Obama and even make stuff up and "leak" it? I have this funny picture in my head of a, formerly sanguine and self-congratulatory, political newbie suddenly confused and fighting off hordes of reporters who want the "REAL" story behind the latest "scandal". It's almost sad..but more, funny.

But he shouldn't worry- the b*&%ch will be oh-so-magnanimus, rehabilitate him and offer him the VP slot.

Any bets?


25 posted on 12/31/2006 10:11:58 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: STARWISE

Wasn't 'Hillaryland' also the description of the real estate that her people occupied in the White House?

You know where the Vice President usually bases his operations from???


26 posted on 12/31/2006 10:12:06 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: STARWISE

Oops just read it again and saw the 1992.

Nevermind, sorry. ;-)


27 posted on 12/31/2006 10:13:03 AM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: advance_copy
The funny part about all this is she is still going to lose.

I wouldn't bet on that.

28 posted on 12/31/2006 10:20:52 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: observer5
She won't win in the sense of the receiving the majority of the votes of Americans. She won't even try to do that.

What she will try to do, and perhaps successfully, is to commit electronic vote fraud on a massive scale. Moving, say, a million votes from one column to another in Florida; 500,000 votes in Ohio; 100,000 votes in Missouri; and 50,000 votes in New Mexico should just about do the trick.

Those who say that Hillary can't win because she is too liberal/unlikeable/tainted or whatever are so hopelessly 20th century. The Clintons simply don't leave things up to the whims of the electorate. They create their own success through a variety of proactive steps including the outright manufacturing of the number of votes needed to claim victory and the elimination of anyone likely to voice any opposition to those tactics or even to suggest that such a thing could possibly be true.
29 posted on 12/31/2006 10:23:10 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: CodeMasterPhilzar
her running is just about the best thing she could do for the GOP...

Friends of mine said the same thing about Bill Clinton. They were wrong. You are wrong.

Anyone who does not fear the Clintons is just not paying attention.
30 posted on 12/31/2006 10:27:58 AM PST by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: advance_copy
Her machine would nonetheless be tested early. Recent polls in New Hampshire and Iowa show Clinton would have stiff competition from two potential Democratic rivals, Illinois Sen. Barack Obama and former vice presidential candidate John Edwards.

Stiff competition? From Osama and the Breck Girl? Both of them are empty suit jokes.

"The challenge she'll have in the primaries is building something that's lean and supple, an operation that can turn on a dime," said Democratic pollster Geoffrey D. Garin.

Apparently the reporter forgot it is unkind to include The Hildabeaste, lean and supple in the same sentence.

She may run but she won't win. Too much baggage, too much divisiveness and a grating, shrill voice.

When the average American conjures up a mental image of the POTUS, I don't think they see The Hildabeaste.

31 posted on 12/31/2006 10:31:15 AM PST by upchuck (How to win the WOT? Simple: set our rules of engagement to at least match those of our enemy.)
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To: rbg81

"She could well win. If she does, then we deserve what we get."

Who was it that said that "we pretty much get the gov't we deserve"?


32 posted on 12/31/2006 10:32:43 AM PST by webstersII
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To: TruthWillWin

She was in charge of putting out bimbo eruptions when Bill was running. She will probably have the same job if Hillary runs. During that period of time Bill will have to stop dating or be more discreet.


33 posted on 12/31/2006 10:34:35 AM PST by Uncle Hal
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To: webstersII
What you mean "we", paleface?

I sure as hell haven't done anything to deserve ol' Crusty Pantsuit for President!

34 posted on 12/31/2006 10:38:28 AM PST by uglybiker (A bunch of radical Unitarians left a flaming question mark on my lawn!)
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To: webstersII

Yeah, WE (the collective American people) get the Government we deserve. However, I am quite sure that I personally do NOT deserve Hillary as my president. That's the rub with democracy--the majority rules, no matter how big a bunch of retards they are.


35 posted on 12/31/2006 11:03:55 AM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: frankenMonkey

I'm sure she's been though menopause by now. Lucky break for the terrorists. It would be curtains for them if they pulled something during her PMS cycle.


36 posted on 12/31/2006 11:06:16 AM PST by rbg81 (1)
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To: advance_copy; All

Well .. when you have 80 people die (under suspicious circumstances during the Clintons' eight years in office), people who were associated with you and your husband, it might put the fear of death in a lot of people who do not perform for the "tight ship". Remember, certain staff members found "the list" on their chair in their offices - as a warning.

And .. with people like Carville and McAwful supporting her .. I suspect the rules for the first 80 will apply to the next 80; as neither of these men has any ethics.

I agree she will lose .. and hopefully it will mean a BIG BIG BIG loss for the democrat party in total.

I'm reading a book by Jerry Zeifman, "Hillary's Pursuit of Power". Jerry was Chief Counsel of the House Judidicary Committee during the Nixon impeachment process. Hillary was one of the lawyers on his team. In this book he relates her unethical practices in violation of House Rules (while working on the Nixon impeachment). Jerry was also a consultant to a member of the Judiciary Committee during the Clinton impeachment, and he exposes the unethical practices of the Clinton WH. Jerry's conclusion, "Hillary Clinton is ethically unfit to be President".


37 posted on 12/31/2006 11:15:08 AM PST by The Final Harvest (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: advance_copy
This Clinton machine is a tighter ship.

Two comments.

1. I'm getting sick of how the leftist press admires how GOOD Slick and the Witch are at political spin. They don't care if they lie, as long as they are very good liars. They don't care if what they do is good, as long as they're good at doing it. Because what they want is for the Democrats to win, win, win! Then once again it will be cocktail time in DC for the leftist press and hollywood celebs.

2. Don't mix your metaphors even before you get to the damned article! What are they teaching in journalism school? Oh.

38 posted on 12/31/2006 11:25:37 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Solitar
I'm afraid she could defeat McCain, Giuliani, Romney or any others now considered to be running.

I don't think she can beat Rudy, but otherwise I agree with you. Conventional wisdom is that McKook is the most electable Republican, but I think this is dead wrong. If he gets the nomination he will either self-destruct during the campaign or be destroyed by the media, which will focus on his age and health problems.

39 posted on 12/31/2006 11:27:36 AM PST by freespirited (Honk for disbarment of Mike Nifong.)
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save for #3 as reference


40 posted on 12/31/2006 11:30:44 AM PST by krunkygirl
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To: Solitar

I'm not so sure about her ability to win. For one, if the clintons' were so confident of her candidacy, why didn't she she drop out of the race for senator and barnstorm towards the next election? I think they have strong doubts about her chances of winning the nomination and furthermore thepresidency in 08. Without at least having a senators seat, the clintons would most likely slip into being irrelevant. She is the most polarizing figure in recent history. Even more so than her husband. The time has come for this country to have a true uniter that can truly get votes across party lines.

Yes I do suspect that they have strong doubt


41 posted on 12/31/2006 11:34:07 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: advance_copy

You think Bill was a love fest by the MSM? Just wait until Hillary runs. It's going to be the most sickening thing you ever lived through.

God have mercy on us.


42 posted on 12/31/2006 11:37:03 AM PST by kempo
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To: kempo

Yep, it will be sickening. But remember, Bill Clinton never got 50% of the vote. It takes a third party candidate for a Clinton to be elected President. And the conservative part of America, which is the majority, is never going to fall for that again.


43 posted on 12/31/2006 11:42:04 AM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: advance_copy

Well, we are just going to have to disrupt that schedule with depositions.


44 posted on 12/31/2006 11:53:45 AM PST by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: albie
Regrettably,the "taking things away from you for the common good" theme would appeal to a lot of voters so long conditioned to the entitlement mentality.
45 posted on 12/31/2006 12:04:29 PM PST by Carl LaFong (Sugar from the Yucatan)
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To: CyberAnt; Txsleuth; La Enchiladita; Bahbah

Ping to this post, it has more about what I was trying to remember about Hillary's behavior on Nixon's impeachment investigation.

Thanks, CyberAnt. Great timing! :-)


46 posted on 12/31/2006 12:07:01 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: STARWISE
In a live interview on CNN's "Late Edition," Gore defended the White House's handling of the files and said a policy will soon be in place to prevent anyone there from having access to FBI materials.

"We are going to make sure new guidelines are further adhered to so something like this never happens again," Gore said from his farm in Carthage, Tennessee.

Well, if this isn't an admission!

Also, "Well, WE got the records, but don't you worry: We'll make sure no one else will get their grimey little hands on them."

47 posted on 12/31/2006 12:07:04 PM PST by bannie
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To: Cicero

And your first point shows up the media inaccuracy with this...

Hillary certainly did not run a tight ship or do a good job on her Health Care plan. Given all of the time spent on the lead up to it, and the amount of time, $$$, resources devoted to it, any high school government student would have seen that it was a crap plan.

Hillary also spends $$$ like a drunken sailor on leave. (Notice how I stayed with the metaphor? LOL) She is a lousy manager if she can set a budget and stick to it, or find people with those skills to run her operation. How much $$$ did her Senate campaign spend on flowers, for goodness sake?

The smartest lawyer in America flunked the DC Bar Exam. Her intellectual skills go downhill from there. About the only thing she does well is being an arrogant ego-maniac and rhyming with witch.


48 posted on 12/31/2006 12:12:14 PM PST by pinz-n-needlez (Jack Bauer wears Tony Snow pajamas)
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To: kempo
"You think Bill was a love fest by the MSM? Just wait until Hillary runs. It's going to be the most sickening thing you ever lived through."

Look how hard they twisted themselves in knots trying to make algore and then lurch look normal (but with oh-so-superior intelligence and accomplishment, of course).

Is anyone old enough to remember Life Magazine's drooling love affair with Jack/Jackie and even Bobbie/Ethel and Teddy/Joan. Hllary will never have to answer a single serious question. The superior intelligence thing has already been done on her for years, and all that remains is the humanizing. Voters whose memories extend backward about all of two weeks will go for it, and, with the assistance of however much vote fraud it takes in urban areas, the electoral votes of the biggest-population states will be secured, and presto! Hillary wins! There are plenty of powerful people (and all of their toadies) ready and willing to do whatever it takes to elect her. Obama is not a danger to her at all; he will be a very useful and valuable running mate.

49 posted on 12/31/2006 12:14:14 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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To: advance_copy

Got a source for that prediction?


50 posted on 12/31/2006 12:18:19 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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