The Balkan Islamic Jihad: A Pan-European calamity

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It's not only the United States who armed Saddam but the World Community too.

Try to Remember that.

We should of done something to Saddam back in the 1990's while Clinton was in office. Containing Saddam in a box with UN Sanctions did not work because the man was able to work outside the box.

Saddam did not allowed any aid to go to his people but manage to get weapons from other sources like trading oil for weapons from the Serbs. Since the Serbs became the bad guys under the Clinton Administration they had to supply their men with weapons some how.

Saddam was using his people as political pawns. 600,000 Iraqi children died under UN sanctions because they did not have food or medical care.

UN gave humanitarian aid to Iraq but they never recieved it. Saddam resold it to finance his war machine right under Clinton's watch.

Clinton caused more recruitment for future Jihadist because our foriegn policy actions or inactions.

Just take a look at OBL's 1996 Fatwa. He blames the United States for the Iraqis misery and causing grief for Arabs. Our planes were based on Saudi Arabia and we were flying NFZ patrols.

US and UK were in a full scale war according to OBL. I didn't hear too much about this on the main stream news and it was a great shame.

If I knew what was going on I would write to my congressman to solve the humantarian crisis in Iraq without Saddam.

Did you know those NFZ's were illegal from the start? Two members of UNSC - China and Russia did not agree to the NFZ's.

I think the United States should of went into Iraq early to set up humanitarian aid stations in the No Fly Zones to take care of the civilians. This way we should able to by-pass this corrupt Regime and Saddam wouldn't be building UN Palaces for Oil.

UN Sanctions didn't work back then and they don't work now. Clinton had his priorities mixed up and now we are paying for it with US service members being killed everyday in Iraq.

To tell the truth when Clinton went into Kosovo...I didn't know what was going on. I think the Kosovo conflict was a Politically Correct war.

People who supported the Clinton Administration fighting the Serbs thought KLA was dismantled by Madame Albright's leadership.

KLA just went underground to get rid of the Serbs with US and NATO help. Since then KLA has re-emerged to help the Islamic movement worldwide. They have a very profitable gun, drug and sex trade going on in that region.

We will pay for it later.

Lurker,

Your saying my posting companion is loony?

You are the raving BS lurker. Mainly because you people offer very limited and mind restrictive answers...lolol..descrptive of your family backgroud and heritage. I love it when you clowns come back with virtually no background, facts, or supporting evidence. It gives the truth a soapbox on which to proclaim over your lies and deceit.

It's called......Slamdunk........clown...:)

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Carroll Quigley

As a teen-ager I heard John Kennedy's summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest nation in the history because our people have always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal moral responsibility to make it so.

President Clinton's 1992 Acceptance Speech at the Democratic Convention

http://www.premier1.net/~barkonwd/quigley.htm

(CALL IT "BS", BUT YOUR HERO BILLY BOB CLINTON RESPECTED THIS NUT THAT SUPPORTS ALL I'VE BEEN POSTING.......HMMMMMMM

Carroll Quigley (1910-1977), professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, formerly taught at Princeton and at Harvard. He has done research in the archives of France, Italy, and England, and is the author of the widely praised Evolution of Civilizations. A member of the editorial board of the monthly Current History, He is a frequent lecturer and consultant for public and semipublic agencies. He is a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Anthropological Association, and the American Economic Association, as well as various historical association. He has been lecturer on Russian history at the Industrial College of the Armed Forces since 1951 and on Africa at the Brookings institution since 1961, and has lectured at many other places, including the U.S. Naval Weapons Laboratory, the Foreign Service Institute of the State Department, and the Naval College at Norfolk, Virginia. In 1958 he was a consultant to the Congressional Select Committee which set up the present national space agency. He was collaborator in history to the Smithsonian Institution after 1957, in connection with the establishment of its new Museum of history and Technology. In the summer of 1964 he went to the Navy Post-Graduate School, Monterey, California, as consultant to Project Seabed, which tried to visualize what American weapons systems would be like in twelve years.

Tragedy and Hope, 1966, 1348 pages, Hardbound, $40

Shows the years 1895-1950 as a period of transition from the world dominated by Europe in the nineteenth century to the world of three blocs in the twentieth century. With clarity, perspective, and cumulative impact, Professor Quigley examines the nature of that transition through two world wars and a worldwide economic depression. as a interpretative historian, he tries to show each event in the full complexity of its historical context. The result is a unique work, notable in several ways. It gives a picture of the world in terms of the influence of different cultures and outlooks upon each other; it shows, more completely than in any similar work, the influence of science and technology on human life; and it explains, with unprecedented clarity, how the intricate financial and commercial patterns of the West prior to 1914 influenced the development of today's world.

..."Thus, Rothchild interests came to dominate many of the railroads of Europe, while Morgan dominated at least 26,000 miles of American railroads. Such bankers went further than this. In return for flotations of securities of industry, they took seats on the boards of directors of industrial firms, as they had already done on commercial banks, savings banks, insurance firms, and finance companies." (p.60)

..".These firm were controlled through interlocking directorships, holding companies and lesser banks. They engineered amalgamations and generally reduced competition, until by the early twentieth century many activities were so monopolized that they could raise their noncompetitive price above costs..". (p. 61)

http://reactor-core.org/none-dare.html

Prof. Carroll Quigley of Harvard, Princeton and Georgetown Universities wrote book disclosing international bankers' plan to control the world from behind the political and financial scenes. Quigley revealed plans of billionaires to establish dictatorship of the super-rich disguised as workers' democracies.

J. P. Morgan created artificial panic used as excuse to pass Federal Reserve Act Morgan was instrumental in pushing U. S. into WWI to protect his loans to British government. He financed Socialist groups to create an all-powerful centralized government which international bankers would control at the apex from behind the scenes. After his death, his partners helped finance the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia.

And, curiously enough, the Federal Reserve System has never been audited and has firmly resisted all attempts by House Banking Committee Chairman Wright Patman to have it audited. (N. Y. Times, Sept.14, 1967.)

THE PLOT TO SEIZE THE WHITE HOUSE BY JULES ARCHER
http://www.clubhousewreckards.com/plot/plottoseizethewhitehouse.htm

War Is A Racket

A speech delivered in 1933, by Major General Smedley Butler, USMC.

http://www.lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

Smedley Butler

The Real Plot to Overthrow the White House

http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/pen-l/2005w11/msg00000.htm

Listen carefully, according to the New York Times of December 11, 1963, JFK gave an interview in which he made this statement. He was assassinated about 3 weeks before the Times Printed the interview. I think that I said taped or aired.... I meant printed, but goofed. Either way, it came from him and he said it.

Now, The article was written by Jean Daniel, foreign editor of L'Express, which was a French newspaper. It was in fact printed on December 11, 1963. He reports that he had made a recent trip to the U.S. and then to Cuba, which enabled him to establish in effect a dialogue between President Kennedy and Premier Fidel Castro. He first interviewed JFK and then presented his views to "Dr. Castro". He was to return for a second interview with JFK after having heard Dr. Castro's remarks on U.S. Policy. From reading Dr. Castro's comments, it is apparent that those who would even begin to believe that Castro was remotely responsible for the Assassination of JFK is ALL WET. General de Gualle felt that communism in Cuba was only the accidental and temporary form of the will to be independent from the United States. In any case, when questioned, JFK was quite emphatic;

Quote: "I will tell you this: We know perfectly what has happened in Cuba, to the unhappiness of all of us. I have followed personally since the beginning, the evolution of these events with grave concern. There are few matters to which I have devoted so much attention. The conclusions that I have drawn go much further than the European analyses."

"I think that there is not a country in the world including all the regions of Africa, and including any country under colonial colonization, the humiliation, the exploitation have been worse than those which ravaged Cuba, the result in part of the policy of my country, during the regime of Batista. I think that we spawned, constructed, entirely fabricated, without knowing it, the Castro movement. I think that the accumulation of such errors has endangered all of Latin America. The Alliance for Progress has no other aim than to reverse this disastrous course.

"In a certain sense, it is as though Batista were the incarnation of some of the sins committed by the United States. Now we must pay for those sins."

JFK goes on and on...and what Castro has to say is just as interesting. So, the implications are, JFK figured this out, and was being open minded, honest and was going to do something about it. It also indicates that we (Americans) have this fantasy that the President controls the CIA or whomever. This is an honest admission that the Presidency does not have full control of what goes on.......or even what action is taken.

To go a step further, in my humble opinion and based on contrary evidence to the Warrent commission, his murder was carried out publicly, because they wanted the political leaders in this country to know who was in control. There has been a phenomenal amount of research done on the case of President Kennedy's murder, and it almost seems that when he died, the tide changed in this country. The forces behind the assassination of Kennedy were able to change the course of history at will, and with the new-found confidence at this groups' success, the power they gained, literally allowed them to exert complete control over the American government.

It might be interesting to note that huge oil fields had been discovered off the coast of Vietnam in 1950. If I may add a comment that certain important, wealthy folks was maybe able to use oil as a ploy to ferment a fear that Vietnam would be lost to Communism, the way Cuba was. However, Kennedy wanted to end American involvement in the war, and in October, 1963, he recalled 1,000 so-called advisers. He planned to bring home all American soldiers by 1965. After Kennedy was eliminated, the U. S. government escalated the war in Vietnam. His hatred of the CIA was well-known. After the Bay of Pigs disaster, he said he wanted "to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." Using a federal statute, Kennedy was going to force J. Edgar Hoover, to retire, because he wanted somebody who better represented his New Frontier. Conservative in his economics, he intended to circumvent the Federal Reserve by issuing nearly $5 million in non-interest bearing U.S. bank notes(Executive Order #11110), much like Abraham Lincoln. And to top matters off, after winning the showdown with Russia over Cuba, he signed a limited nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviets. Needless to say, Kennedy's agenda was contrary to the plans for the Globalist. As Jacqueline Kennedy was getting ready to leave Air Force One when it arrived in Washington, still wearing the bloodstained clothing from Dallas, she said:

Quote: "I want them to see what they have done." A very strange comment to make, since Oswald was already in custody. In 1968, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy promised an honorable end to the Vietnam War, and with Martin Luther King, Jr. delivering the Black support, Kennedy would have been easily elected President. That however, did not fit into the plans of "other agendas" who wanted to prolong the war, and wanted Nixon to be President, because he represented the instrument that would perpetuate their goals. Again, there is plenty of evidence that points to a conspiracy in the assassinations of Bobby Kennedy, and King. The likelihood that the same forces were involved is evident, because again, the course of the nation was altered to fit into their plans.

This is also another reason that I just made a comment and not give the whole story. The New York Republic and Jean Daniel published this double interview on November 27, 1963. The New York Times Published it on December 11, 1963.

Even Kennedy was aware of the "if you want an empire, you have to have a war, if you want a war, you must have an enemy, if you can't find an enemy then you make one"....

Unfortunately our money has financed our enemies, killed our own people, and then returned back. Only a handful of orchestrators actually know this. The way they handle others is by blackmail, bribery, secrecy...many ways to contain any exposure. Mr. Norman Dodd was a former U.S. Congressman. He confirmed that war was the most effective means for controlling people. He testified that he was invited to study the minutes of The Carnegie Endowment for International peace...

Quote: "The Trustees of the Foundation brought up a single question. If it is desirable to alter the life of an entire people, is there any means more efficient than war? They discussed this question for about one year and came up with an answer: There are no known means more efficient than war, assuming the objective if altering the life of an entire people. That leads them to a question: How do we involve the U.S. in a war? Circa 1909

One interesting bit of trivia....The Kennedy's could not tell from the photos that missiles existed in Cuba...the United States worked out with Russia to remove the U.S. Missiles from Turkey that were aimed at the Soviet Union if they removed their missiles from Cuba. If there were no Soviet missiles in Cuba, then no trade off could be accomplished. It then became necessary to "create" a crisis in Cuba......

Now, interestingly enough there are Americans that are high up that have figured this mess out. One was in fact JFK. He felt that the American Government created the Castro government, and later imposed the Castro Government on the people.....

SO, WHO ARE WE TO BELIEVE...AN IDIOT NAMED HOPLIE...OPPS I MEAN LURKER OR A TRUTH TELLING FORMER PRESIDENT, NAMED JFK BEFORE THEY MURDERED HIM.

And the followers of Muhammed (including the KLA) want us all dead, too!

Good post....I was in kosovo from 1999 to 2004, actually It was my only home that time. I was security chief for the eastern region in Kosovo the entire time.

We had an agenda to break into the Balkans since 1948, witht he Balle Kombetar movement, revivied from the days of the Nazi invasion and link up with the Albanian nazi divisions that formed to kill Serbs and jews. Frank Wisner Sr was a part of the Operation Fiend to continue the campaign. It was part of the Military Industrial Complex to squeeze into position for many reasons to include the oil reserves in the Caspian, as only one of many reasons. Independent Kosovo was always the goal of the U.S......per quotes by Holbrooke and strategy for decades. We helped to fuel the break up starting in Croatia and Bosnia by bringing 10,000 + Jihaders from Afghanistan working with ISI, Iranian Intell, Saudi Intell and Turkish Intell heading to Kosovo. We used exaggerations and fabrications to justify our shadow campaign. You are correct, we covertly allowed the Albanian terrorist to cleanse the Serbs from 1999 to present as of now...and there are sinister plans for March 2007....big action yet to come.

I appreciate the links for sure concerning the role the world communities played.

yep....that be me he is talking about, now you.

per my last post, no sooner than I wrote than the lastest.....

http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/02922.shtml

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761255/posts?page=3#3

correction.....yep....that be me he is talking about, not you.

per my last post, no sooner than I wrote than the lastest.....

http://www.serbianna.com/news/2006/02922.shtml

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761255/posts?page=3#3

NAMED JFK BEFORE THEY MURDERED HIM.

Ahhh yes. The omnipotent "THEY".

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:) It's obvious that you have a long way to go and way out of your league. Buckle up bucko....you're in for a rude awakening. lolol...:)

Yes...but it goes back to 2000...long time ago. I use him and the others to practice concepts and use them as a spring board to post links, etc....

Otherwise, not much else can be done.....but, spit out facts, links, and posts with substance.....

For later read.

Tissue?

["Tissue?"]

Hey Slick, why not pass out some Sandpaper...My eyes can take it.

Ostensibly, some others are not able to do so. :-)

Just a note:

It was thought that NATO bombings would end the conflict in Kosovo in less than a week (right?)...How foolish of you and your comrades.

You and your friends were so worried that the conflict would spill over to Macedonia (right?)...and that Albania would invoke its treaties with Turkey and the subsequent problems that would occur between Greece and Cyprus (right?)...Again, how foolish of you and your comrades.

In short, the NATO bombings were nothing more than a direct consequence of our actions in Dubrovnik, Vukovar, Sarajevo, and Srebrenica.

That's what needs to said.

Stick to math.

["Stick to math."]

Well, I will, and if my calculations are correct, then I would infer that Tim Judah gives you a lot of laughs(?).

Failed race war? Muslim is not a race, hoplite. Croats, Bosniaks and Serbs are all from the same slavic race. What in the hell are you attempting to propagate here? the same crap that clinton's psyops team was spewing from PBS and CNN in the 90's?

"same slavic race".

No worries - the Serbs had work arounds: Biljana Plavsic declared Bosnian Muslims to be "genetically deformed" Serbs, the Bosnian Serb assembly declared Muslims to be a "Religious Group of Turkish Orientation", and Ratko Mladic, upon seizing Srebrenica declared it was time to take revenge upon the "Turks".

But you are correct, I should have said "failed pseudo race war in Bosnia".

Good catch.