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Social Security Agreement With Mexico Released After 3 1/2 Year Freedom of Information Act Battle
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Posted on 01/01/2007 8:04:50 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement
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To: WatchingInAmazement
I am waiting for the Free Trade and Global Economists here at FR applaud this stinker.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:19:30 AM PST
by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rear view mirror.)
All us gringos had better learn that language!!!
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:20:10 AM PST
by
chainsaw
(We are going to take things away from you. - H. Clinton)
To: WatchingInAmazement
"The Social Security Administration itself warns that Social Security is within decades of bankruptcy -- yet, they seem to have no problem making agreements that hasten its demise," said Ralph McCutchen, Chairman of the TREA Senior Citizens League."
I wonder if the above statement really upsets many writers on FreeRepublic. For years they have been anti SS benefits.
Oh well, who cares? Old guys such as I who have depended on S.S. for years will have to figure out another way to "milk the government." Right?
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:20:35 AM PST
by
GOPologist
(When one lowers himself to argue with a fool, then you don't know which one is the fool.)
To: WatchingInAmazement
Awaiting President Bush's signature!!!!
OK since 2004 I see gee somebody is sellin a bridge too..
Pathetic those who want to believe the worst of our president!
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:20:47 AM PST
by
Tigen
(Live in peace or rest in peace!)
To: Clara Lou
Americans are retiring to countries where it is cheaper to live. Current law requires they visit the US every year to retain Medicare eligibiity. Social Security cuts their bnefits in half when it learns they are living in Mexico. Likewise, Cqanada requires snowbirds spend 6 months a year in Canada to keep their health insurance. So, do you want Mexicans staying here to collect Social Security they have earned, or wouold you rather they went home when they want to?
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:20:50 AM PST
by
ClaireSolt
(Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
To: Clara Lou
Would Bush actually sign this???His State Dept. made the agreement and his SS administrator signed on, so what do you think?
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:20:52 AM PST
by
WatchingInAmazement
(President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
To: Old Professer
What's important here is not so much the nuts and bolts of this agreement, but the secrecy with which is has been kept from public review. Good point. I have always wondered why those that support amnesty for example will not say it is amnesty, and why Republican leadership has adopted democratic style strategies of lying about their intentions. Why do they misname things in order to manipulate and deceive their own base ie. "pathway to citizenship", "jobs Americans will not do" etc.
Why do they malign those that would point out the truth, about what these changes really mean.
Why aren't people offended by the secrecy, the deception the warping of language?
Why are they highjacking our Democracy?
Regards.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:21:00 AM PST
by
ARE SOLE
(I thought the Party was supposed to court the voters and not the other way around?)
To: pleikumud
What? No lock box? I'm shocked!
Let the crooks in your pocket, be surprised at the outcome.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:21:43 AM PST
by
GregoryFul
(There's no truth in the New York Times)
To: WatchingInAmazement
This overall program has been in place since the Carter Administration. However, this is the first totalization agreement between the United States and a nation responsible for nearly 70 percent of the illegal immigration into the United States.
http://www.azconservative.org/Barton.htm
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:21:58 AM PST
by
BARLF
To: Clara Lou
I also wondered if he might wait until the last minute. However, either House could still take action, according to the article. True, but there may well be a timetable there too. The President signs on January 20th, 2009. And then Congress votes in favor in a midnight vote before Christmas 2009.
To: Clara Lou
I also wondered if he might wait until the last minute. However, either House could still take action, according to the article.
I bet they won't unless the American people mobilize a couple a million votes against it!
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:23:20 AM PST
by
chainsaw
(We are going to take things away from you. - H. Clinton)
To: WatchingInAmazement
Pull the plug. The ssytem is terminal.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:23:26 AM PST
by
weegee
To: WatchingInAmazement
This obviously another piece of brilliant strategery by Rove/Bush. We, the ignorant freepers, are unable to discern the benefits of this agreement.
Sarcasm, while maybe not obvious to all freepers, is most definitely intended.
To: pleikumud
So basically, Congress is going to raise taxes on everyone here so that Mexican citizens can enjoy the good life south of the border? That is just plain WRONG.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:23:59 AM PST
by
rabscuttle385
(Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
To: misterrob
Seems like they have it figured out better than we have. I think we are the only country that hasn't figured it out yet. With the socialists/democrats it's only going to get worse.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:25:22 AM PST
by
unixfox
(The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
To: WatchingInAmazement
The sooner the Ponzi scheme called Social Security dies the better.
Oops, but I forgot, you Watchin are not for any reform of your beloved Ponzi scheme.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:25:55 AM PST
by
Dane
("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
Comment #37 Removed by Moderator
To: WatchingInAmazement
And how do they prove that they qualify?
Since they are illegal, they probably didn't provide valid SS numbers.
So do they just sign a statement of validation? They already broke the law by being here illegally. Do we really think they would be truthful in signing such a validation?
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This is an attempt for the US taxpayers to take care of Mexico's poor, because Mexico's wealthy won't. How many other countries are we going to adopt?
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Bush's open borders continues to do significant damage to the sovereignty of the United States. If he signs this fiasco, he will go down in the short remaining history of the US as the President instrumental in the demise of this nation.
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Shortly after Clinton (and Albright) left office, both made speeches about the US needing to be more considerate of 3rd world nations, as the US would become a 3rd world nation before long.
When I first heard of those speeches, I considered their words traitorous. After 6 years of open borders, I wonder when this fix was in. Both Clinton 1 and Bush 2 did nothing to stop the invasion of illegals -- some 11 to 25 million of them. No nation can survive that kind of unabated onslaught.
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:26:54 AM PST
by
TomGuy
To: WatchingInAmazement
This is a great program!
Now the illegals can not only take away jobs from Americans, they can take away their Social Security money too!
There is even better news - with fat SS checks coming in, the Mexican illegals can go back home and live like kings in their own country when they turn 62. Maybe we can pass a law to start paying them immediately, so they will go home right away. We can include an earmark for 7-11 to make up for the lost business from it's illegal loiterers.
This is the long term fix to the illegal alien problem. Karl Rove IS a genius!
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:31:24 AM PST
by
oldbill
To: Tigen; WatchingInAmazement; ladyjane
Pathetic those who want to believe the worst of our president!He sure makes it easy to do so!
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posted on
01/01/2007 8:32:29 AM PST
by
DTogo
(I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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