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Sat Nav for Mexicans illegally entering US
Sunday Telegraph ^ | December 31, 2006 | Justin Stares

Posted on 01/01/2007 11:54:13 AM PST by calcowgirl

Illegal immigrants planning to cross the desert and enter the US on foot are to be given hand-held satellite devices by the Mexican authorities to ensure they arrive safely.

Those who get lost or fall sick during the dangerous four-day crossing will be able to activate the device, to alert frontier police on both sides of the border.

The satellite tracking service will require would-be illegals to register their intentions before setting off — a paradoxical move, given that secrecy is necessary for success — but Mexican authorities are predicting that about 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched formally in the coming year.

"Our intention is to save lives," said Jaime Obregon, the co-ordinator for the state commission for migrants in Puebla, the Mexican state which is behind the project. "There are lots of people looking to cross and we are working with the US authorities to make sure they do not die on the way."

Between 20 and 30 migrants succumb to hellish temperatures and insect bites while attempting to cross into Arizona every year. Heat exhaustion sometimes causes short-term memory loss, with trekkers wandering aimlessly into the desert.

The route into Arizona, known as the Sasave Pass, is both the most common and the most dangerous way into the US. According to Mexican state migrant authorities, up to 75,000 attempt the crossing every month, of whom between 50,000 and 60,000 are caught by US border patrols and sent back.

The chance of success depends greatly on the knowledge of the guide, known as a "coyote" or "desert fox". They charge between $2,000 and $10,000 per person (£1,025-£5,100).

Coyotes are merciless if a member of their pack lags behind. "If you cannot keep up they will abandon you." said Mr Obregon. "Alone, you have about 36 hours to live. It is in this period the satellite device makes a difference."

A spokesman for US Customs and Border Protection said: "We do not have any information about the Mexican government providing satellite trackers to people, but we strongly discourage encouragement to people who are attempting to cross illegally into the US."


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bordersecurity; bushamnesty; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; webedooooooooommed; wetbacks; wtf
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1 posted on 01/01/2007 11:54:15 AM PST by calcowgirl
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2 posted on 01/01/2007 11:56:19 AM PST by CheneyChick (Another College Educated OEF Veteran for President Bush...)
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To: calcowgirl

americanamexicana


3 posted on 01/01/2007 11:56:30 AM PST by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: calcowgirl
"Our intention is to save lives," said Jaime Obregon,

No, your intention is to get as many millions of Mexicans up here illegally as you possibly can to keep the remittance gravy train a-flowin'.

4 posted on 01/01/2007 11:57:17 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: calcowgirl

--here's a good link--

--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1760965/posts


5 posted on 01/01/2007 11:58:30 AM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: calcowgirl
Oil exploration is hugely profitable to the MexGov. For this reason, it is financed by the MexGov.

The ill-gotten gains of the MexInvasion also benefit the MexGov. Ergo, it, too, is enjoys informal and formal financing.

This state of affairs will the US can re-order the preferences of the MexGov, which is when the invasion ceases to be profitable to them.

How can we make the costs of the invasion they bear outweigh the benefits they crave?

Illegals caught should be sentenced to years of uncompensated hard-labor in the US.

6 posted on 01/01/2007 11:59:38 AM PST by gaijin
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To: calcowgirl

Mexico's ruling class is BRILLIANT.

They didn't want to waste any money on their poor.

So they OUTSOURCED it!


7 posted on 01/01/2007 12:00:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: calcowgirl

What next?

Chauffeured limos?

.. with hot tubs.

Border? We don't need no stinkin' border.

HaPPy New Year, calcowgirl!


8 posted on 01/01/2007 12:00:30 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: CheneyChick

We need to find a way to track these gadgets, and arrest everyone who crosses with one. And, the mexicrime govt. is handing them out? Uh, they need to be told in no uncertain terms, that they will face a serious response if they carry this plan out!


9 posted on 01/01/2007 12:00:34 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: calcowgirl

If this doesn't constitute an invasion by a foreign nation, I don't know what does. Will the Mexican government next give them jeeps, humvees and tanks to assist in a successful crossing?


10 posted on 01/01/2007 12:00:45 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: calcowgirl

200k GPS devices? And the US will get them when they catch the criminal invaders? I sure hope there isn't any intention to give them back to the Mexicans. Now that would get me stewing. Instead, I'd like to go down and buy one of those seized ones at government auction, cheap, for my car.


11 posted on 01/01/2007 12:01:48 PM PST by KellyAdmirer
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To: calcowgirl

Hush y'all. Mexico is our friend.


12 posted on 01/01/2007 12:01:54 PM PST by 353FMG (I never met a liberal I didn't dislike.)
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To: NormsRevenge
HaPPy New Year, calcowgirl!

Feliz Nuevo Año, back at ya! ;-)

13 posted on 01/01/2007 12:02:10 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Not sure, are the illegals allowed to keep the satellite navigation devices once they get to a relatively safe haven, or do they have to turn them in for the next wave of illegals?

I bet a few get kept, just for souvenirs, but the officials concerned may get a little stern about wide non-compliance.


14 posted on 01/01/2007 12:02:21 PM PST by alloysteel (A battle cry of the Crusaders: "Denique caelum!" (Latin, "Heaven at last!))
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Maybe we should send boatloads of Bangladeshis to their country!


15 posted on 01/01/2007 12:02:38 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: calcowgirl
Got Milk GPS?
16 posted on 01/01/2007 12:03:00 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: CheneyChick
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17 posted on 01/01/2007 12:04:17 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: calcowgirl
"...but Mexican authorities are predicting that about 200,000 devices will be handed out..."

These Sat-Nav devices are expensive to the tune of several thousand each, and this doesn't even cover the cost of a down-link service. So who is paying for all of this?

18 posted on 01/01/2007 12:04:18 PM PST by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: calcowgirl
about 200,000 devices will be handed out when the project is launched formally in the coming year.

I have no idea what they plan to issue, but I paid about $120 for my Garmin GPS. Wonder who is funding this program? Wouldn't it be cheaper to teach them "Follow the Drinkin' Gourd"? (In Spanish, of course).

19 posted on 01/01/2007 12:05:10 PM PST by 19th LA Inf
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To: calcowgirl

Answer is simple...call the Geek Squad, have them break the activation code..activate all devices at once and sit back...


20 posted on 01/01/2007 12:05:14 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: calcowgirl

Question..

This has to violate some treaty or agreement, one would think. But what will our La Raza awarded AG do? Will he even peep?

I await DHS' Mr. Chertoff's remarks regarding this latest charade of a controlled border.


21 posted on 01/01/2007 12:05:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: alloysteel
Not sure, are the illegals allowed to keep the satellite navigation devices ...

It may open up a whole new industry... they can be returned for their Redemption Value.
Kinda like aluminum cans in California.

22 posted on 01/01/2007 12:06:18 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Sounds like a good idea to me. They'll all be trackable. Yeah, they have to "activate" it to work, but do you really think it won't already be activated? Pretty clever, imo. Saving lives and tracking crossers at the same time.


23 posted on 01/01/2007 12:07:11 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Happy New Year!)
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To: alloysteel

Can't someone use the same gps signals to locate the illegals with the devices and round them up?


24 posted on 01/01/2007 12:07:13 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Is there a translator for those images?


25 posted on 01/01/2007 12:07:30 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; girlangler; billhilly; george76; Cobra64

I really can't believe this.


26 posted on 01/01/2007 12:07:56 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: DJ Taylor
"Who's paying for all of this?"

The Illuminati? The Globalists? The Bushes? Aliens? (The extra terrestrial kind) So many questions, so few answers.
27 posted on 01/01/2007 12:09:11 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Maynerd Blazejewsi for President '08! (The third party choice))
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To: calcowgirl

2 -- Press 2 for English.


28 posted on 01/01/2007 12:09:41 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: calcowgirl

I guess this is Felipe Calderon and that wonderful conservative PAN party pushing to destroy the USA once again. So, if they catch something wrong then what? The international courts or putting more border patrol agents in prison.

I figure they are after putting more border patrol agents into prison therefore ensuring an open border.


29 posted on 01/01/2007 12:09:48 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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That says it all.


31 posted on 01/01/2007 12:10:40 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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To: calcowgirl
Hmmm I would like to get my hands on one of those perhaps the Feds could figure out a way to activate them without the illegals knowing it and capture their sorry butts right at the borders. Now that would really tick off the Mex officials wouldn't it?
32 posted on 01/01/2007 12:10:40 PM PST by Shots (Happy New Year FREEPERS)
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To: calcowgirl

Did you also start fires in Hotels as a child?


33 posted on 01/01/2007 12:10:44 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Maynerd Blazejewsi for President '08! (The third party choice))
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To: calcowgirl

Nothing to worry here, folks. Pres. Bush will show his resolute leadership when it comes to defending the borders against this illegal invasion.

/sarc


34 posted on 01/01/2007 12:11:53 PM PST by indcons (Fellow FReepers - Best Wishes for 2007.)
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To: gaijin
Indeed, the key is to dissuade them from coming in the first place ...and to persuade the ones already here to leave. The method:

1) Cut off the welfare freebees.

2) Heavy fines for all companies employing illegals.

3) Secure the border with the National Guard and a barrier (wall/fence).

4) Rescind the anchor baby laws.

And of course, to never reward their lawlessness with amensty.

35 posted on 01/01/2007 12:13:35 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

Hey you, I have a personal relationship with that wall! LOL!


36 posted on 01/01/2007 12:13:47 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Amnesty, that is...
37 posted on 01/01/2007 12:14:07 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: KellyAdmirer
Sounds like these devices would only act like and emergency beacon ... similar to an EPIRB on a lift raft or life vest ... just sends out a beacon. Don't know why anything like that would cost thousands of $.
38 posted on 01/01/2007 12:14:59 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DJ Taylor
These Sat-Nav devices are expensive to the tune of several thousand each, and this doesn't even cover the cost of a down-link service. So who is paying for all of this?

With the millions we send to Mexico every year in foreign aid, we probably are. Sweet deal, eh?

39 posted on 01/01/2007 12:15:11 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: calcowgirl

I copied the article and emailed to comments@whitehouse.gov

Please do the same. Inundate them with this knowledge. If they fail to act, it's on their heads.


40 posted on 01/01/2007 12:15:20 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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42 posted on 01/01/2007 12:16:10 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: DJ Taylor
These Sat-Nav devices are expensive to the tune of several thousand each,

If these divices cost several hundred thousands of dollars, you can bet the Mexican govt is not giving them out. That is way more than one Mexican can send back in remittances.

43 posted on 01/01/2007 12:16:37 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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You asked for it.

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44 posted on 01/01/2007 12:16:46 PM PST by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President**)
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To: 19th LA Inf

"...I paid about $120 for my Garmin GPS..."

My Magellan ExPlorist 200 was $118 on sale at REI. Wonderful little device, I carry it everywhere. Not a lot of bells & whistles, but plenty good enough.

And re: others ' comments re: tracking, I think the basic ones are receive only, not sure they can be tracked.


45 posted on 01/01/2007 12:17:07 PM PST by Felis_irritable (Dirty_Felis_Irritable...)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Uh, they need to be told in no uncertain terms, that they will face a serious response if they carry this plan out!

Our government is probably totally going along with this. Funny, isn't it? Its like we aren't even talking about this country.

47 posted on 01/01/2007 12:17:46 PM PST by dforest (Liberals love crisis, create crisis and then dwell on them.)
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To: wolfcreek

And don't forget the CD's that one governor in Mexico had made up for his "trusted travelers".


48 posted on 01/01/2007 12:19:04 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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To: calcowgirl

There's no stopping them, and our government is hellbent on making them all citizens. We might as well save our money on the wall (that's never going to be built anyway!!) Let's build a whole bunch of prisons in the desert and let Sheriff Joe Arpao run them. Since we won't be needing any border patrol officers, we should make them sheriff's deputies and assign them to guard the criminals from Mexico and other 3rd world countries in those new prisons!! It would be cheaper and much less frustrating.


49 posted on 01/01/2007 12:19:52 PM PST by NRA2BFree (May you always have love to share, health to spare, and friends that care.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm sick of asking who will do something about this. Look what happened when some brave citizens of this once great nation "did" something about this. They were branded as racists, impugned, and harassed by the very government we elected. Our government sees to it that the invaders have more rights than the average taxpayer. We have done this. PC rules here my friends, and most Americans would rather accept the destruction of Western Civilization than be called a racist. I shudder to think of the future that we cowards are leaving for our children and grandchildren.
50 posted on 01/01/2007 12:20:13 PM PST by CremeSaver
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