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Viking Longships' Last Voyage Strikes Fear Into The Heart Of Archaeologists
Scotsman ^ | Walter Gibbs

Posted on 01/01/2007 3:06:17 PM PST by blam

Viking longships' last voyage strikes fear into the heart of archaeologists

WALTER GIBBS IN OSLO

A ROW has broken out in Norway over a decision to move three ancient Viking ships, which may not survive the journey.

The University of Oslo has decided to move three longships, probably by lorry and barge, to a new museum, despite dire warnings that the thousand-year-old oak vessels could fall apart en route.

A retired curator of Oslo's current Viking Ship Museum has said that the delicately preserved ships, two of which are nearly 80ft long, were almost equal in archaeological importance to the Pyramids.

"Even if I have to live till I am 100, I will go on fighting this move," the former curator, Arne Emil Christensen, 70, said. "The best way to stop it is still through diplomacy, but, if necessary, I will be in front of the ships, chained to the floor."

The university's board of directors has to move the sleek-hulled vessels over the objections of Christensen and several other Viking Age scholars, including the former director of the British Museum, David Wilson, and the director of Denmark's Centre for Maritime Archaeology, Ole Crumlin-Pedersen.

The board wants to transport the popular ships from a remote Oslo peninsula where they have been housed for more than 75 years to a large, multifaceted museum in the centre of the capital.

The three ships were recovered in pieces from separate Viking burial mounds more than a century ago, then painstakingly reassembled with rivets, glue, creosote and linseed oil.

Since then their condition has deteriorated markedly. Christensen said they have the consistency of dry crackers are now too fragile to move.

The most spectacular of them, the Oseberg ship, was built around the year 800 and has featured on the covers of many history books.

Its towering, carved snakehead prow and 30 oars offer insight into the old English prayer, "Deliver us, O Lord, from the fury of the Norsemen." Viking raiders carried by such ships were the scourge of Britain and much of the European continent from the 8th to the 11th centuries.

Engineers from Det Norske Veritas, a risk management foundation, have modelled the Oseberg ship by computer and concluded it could be moved "with little probability of damage" if a gyroscopically controlled cradle is designed to bear all five tons of oak without the slightest stress or tilt.

The most likely travel route would be in three segments: downhill by truck for 750 yards, across the Oslo Fjord by barge for 2.5 miles, and uphill by truck again for several hundred yards.

"It will be a dramatic day, for sure, but I will stay calm," said the University of Oslo president, Geir Ellingsrud. "I am convinced that the move will take place without significant problems."

The Oseberg ship's rival for the attention of museum-goers is the more workmanlike Gokstad ship, dating to around 890. Its strakes, ribs and keel have not been analysed for strength. The third vessel, called Tune, is really only half a ship; but what remains came out of the ground in one piece, held together by the original iron rivets. The most brittle objects are a ceremonial sleigh and a wheeled wagon found in the Oseberg ship.

"We simply don't know what may happen if these things are moved," said Christensen, an archaeologist who recently retired as the ships' curator and has not yet been replaced. "In my opinion, we run the risk of serious damage to both the ships and the artefacts."

Ellingsrud, a mathematician, said Christensen and his colleagues were exaggerating the risk "out of emotion" stemming from their long association with the ships.

He acknowledged that they had one more card to play without turning to civil disobedience. Norway's Directorate of Cultural Heritage has the power to declare landmarks untouchable and is evaluating whether the current Viking Ship Museum and its contents should be protected as one monument.

"The point of no return has not been reached yet," Ellingsrud said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeologists; godsgravesglyphs; longship; norway; oslo; viking

1 posted on 01/01/2007 3:06:19 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/01/2007 3:06:49 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Oops.......... Oh well!


3 posted on 01/01/2007 3:12:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: blam
I fully expected to see a Viking Kitty in a boat on this thread.
4 posted on 01/01/2007 3:13:14 PM PST by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: blam

These artifacts are truly amazing to see in person. I recommend the trip to any who have the means.


5 posted on 01/01/2007 3:13:46 PM PST by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: blam

The Oseburg ship.

6 posted on 01/01/2007 3:14:46 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: blam
Sigh.

Related link:

How to build a viking ship - Norse ship construction.

7 posted on 01/01/2007 3:15:20 PM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BallyBill

lots of pics

http://images.google.com/images?q=Oseberg+ship&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=o3V&sa=X&oi=images&ct=title


8 posted on 01/01/2007 3:16:48 PM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: blam


Of interest here is on the rear right side of the ship is the steering board, or what we have come to call the "starboard" side.

Regards.

9 posted on 01/01/2007 3:21:41 PM PST by ARE SOLE (I thought the Party was supposed to court the voters and not the other way around?)
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To: GATOR NAVY

Beautiful. It seems to me they should make a replica for the museum.


10 posted on 01/01/2007 3:22:19 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: blam

Oseberg Ship

The Oseberg ship was found in a large burial mound at the Slagen farm in Vestfold and excavated in 1904. The ship was built in around 815-820 A.D. and had been used as a sailing vessel for many years before it was put to use as a burial ship for a prominent woman who died in 834. The woman was placed in a burial chamber in the aft section of the ship. Next to her lay the body of another woman, possibly a servant, as well as her most valuable possessions. Under the ship was a thick layer of blue clay, while the mound itself was built up of turf. This explains the excellent state of preservation of the ship and the other objects of wood, leather and textiles.With very few exceptions, these are objects that never survive in graves of the Viking period. The mound was plundered in ancient times, perhaps explaining why no jewellry or other objects of gold and silver, were found in the grave.

The ship, built of oak, was 22 meters long and 5 meters wide. The 12 strakes were secured with iron nails. The ship was designed for both rowing and sailing. With a square sail of about 90 sq. m., it could reach speeds of over 10 knots. The top strake had 15 oar holes. A full set of oars was included in the grave furnishings. The rudder was placed aft and on the starboard side. The crew probably sat on their ship's chests. The Oseberg ship was in all probability intended to be used as a royal pleasure vessel for sailing along the coast. Both the prow and stern of the vessel are finely carved in the characteristic "animal style".

Many of the Oseberg queen's burial furnishings are displayed in the innermost section of the museum in the artifact collection. The textiles made of wool and silk are to be found in a separate room.

11 posted on 01/01/2007 3:24:45 PM PST by blam
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To: RobbyS


This is the replica, on the left.

Regards.

12 posted on 01/01/2007 3:25:26 PM PST by ARE SOLE (I thought the Party was supposed to court the voters and not the other way around?)
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To: blam

The Vikings invented the lapstrake hull, which is the strongest way to make a wooden hull. It will flex in rough seas instead of break.


13 posted on 01/01/2007 3:28:58 PM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: philetus

The gunwhales were too low for the open sea. About half of those attempting the crossing to Greenland were swamped.


14 posted on 01/01/2007 3:32:47 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: GATOR NAVY

Gorgeous, but why did I immediately hear the Viking Kitty song in my head? Too much FR.


15 posted on 01/01/2007 3:35:08 PM PST by SnarlinCubBear ("Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil." -- Thomas Mann)
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16 posted on 01/01/2007 3:37:56 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It takes a village to mind its own business. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Triggerhippie
Been there and saw them with my wife's family which is Norsk/Swede!

If they have to move them then I suggest plenty of foam peanuts!

17 posted on 01/01/2007 3:40:16 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: ARE SOLE

I'd rather see the replica, the difference between a corpse and a "living" thing.


18 posted on 01/01/2007 3:42:28 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: SnarlinCubBear
Gorgeous, but why did I immediately hear the Viking Kitty song in my head?

Yeah, me too.

19 posted on 01/01/2007 3:45:04 PM PST by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: RobbyS
I do find it hard to believe that if the ship is in that poor of a condition it's displayed in the open air. Maybe it needs to be in some kind of ultra controlled environment enclosure.
20 posted on 01/01/2007 3:46:25 PM PST by GATOR NAVY
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To: philetus
"The Vikings invented the lapstrake hull, which is the strongest way to make a wooden hull. It will flex in rough seas instead of break."

Yup. They split the wood down the natural grain of the wood and didn't cut across the grains the way we do today.

21 posted on 01/01/2007 3:47:43 PM PST by blam
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To: GATOR NAVY

I love to imagine the men on that ship. It makes one wonder which of today's objects will survive for such a discovery.

Moving it seems WAY too risky. If it were endangered where it it, it might be worth the risk; but this looks to be a struggle of "greed."


22 posted on 01/01/2007 3:54:47 PM PST by bannie
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To: GATOR NAVY

Like the old battleship in Stockholm.


23 posted on 01/01/2007 3:57:17 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: BallyBill
"I fully expected to see a Viking Kitty in a boat on this thread."

So did I

24 posted on 01/01/2007 4:00:22 PM PST by skimask (People who care what you do don't matter.......People who matter don't care what you do.)
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To: GATOR NAVY

That is a beautiful ship, displayed wonderfully.


25 posted on 01/01/2007 4:02:38 PM PST by steveyp
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To: blam

These ships are amazing in person. Up close, the carvings on the ships are quite detailed. The insides are deep, enough to carry many people. What these must have looked like on the open sea, I can only imagine. Standing next to them I felt quite small. A must see, if you can travel to Oslo. That entire peninsula has neat museums and stops to check out, if you have the time.


26 posted on 01/01/2007 4:14:38 PM PST by RunnerMom
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To: blam

"The Vikings invented the lapstrake hull, which is the strongest way to make a wooden hull. It will flex in rough seas instead of break."

"Yup. They split the wood down the natural grain of the wood and didn't cut across the grains the way we do today"

One tree per strake. The center section was riven out rather than sawn. Think about doing that with 2 foot diameter oak bole. Selected curved sections of the tree for the curved sections of strake. Ton of work with hand tools.


27 posted on 01/01/2007 4:34:58 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
"One tree per strake. The center section was riven out rather than sawn. Think about doing that with 2 foot diameter oak bole. Selected curved sections of the tree for the curved sections of strake. Ton of work with hand tools."

I saw a one hour documentary where all the techniques used were demonstrated. Good show.

28 posted on 01/01/2007 5:26:28 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

btt


29 posted on 01/01/2007 5:39:11 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: blam

I saw a one hour documentary where all the techniques used were demonstrated. Good show

I would have liked to have seen it. I did see one on shipbuilding techniques during Roman times in the Mediterranean. Initially all the wood was cut and shaped to the curve of the ship. Labor intensive. Later they went to lapstrake which used less time. Unlike the roman ships, the straked hulls for viking ships were formed around the keel first, and the ribs and cross members were added afterward. (But this probably would have been covered on the show.)


30 posted on 01/01/2007 6:40:45 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: RunnerMom

Absolutely agree! We spent a couple of days exploring all the museums on Bigdoy. I thought the ships were the most spectacular, followed closely by the small stavkirke at the Folksmuset.


31 posted on 01/01/2007 8:35:28 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: RobbyS
Like the old battleship in Stockholm.

Meaning...the Vasa?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regalskeppet_Vasa

32 posted on 01/02/2007 4:18:32 AM PST by Eclectica (Ask your MD about Evolution. Please!)
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To: blam
Oh, for pete sake. All they need is a really big box and a bazillion Styrofoam peanuts. The damn things aren't glass and they won't turn to powder.

The things people fret over . . .
33 posted on 01/02/2007 4:57:11 AM PST by Lee'sGhost (Crom! Non-Sequitur = Pee Wee Herman.)
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To: Eclectica

Yes. It was still being bathed in a preservative mist when I visited it thirty years ago.


34 posted on 01/02/2007 4:57:14 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: blam

The ship is absolutely beautiful. Unbelievable that anyone would attempt to move it and in the process possibly destroy it.


35 posted on 01/02/2007 6:20:11 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: blam

Did they find any spam in the galley?


36 posted on 01/02/2007 6:35:51 AM PST by rabidralph (Happy New Year, y'all!)
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To: RobbyS

I have to agree; why can't they just put a replica in the downtown museum? Let's face it, most tourists won't know the difference or care. And those few who really want to see the original will probably make the trip out to the "remote" peninsula (which sounds like it is only 3 miles away, fer pete's sake!).

Gorgeous ships though. What beautiful, elegant lines.


37 posted on 01/02/2007 11:52:29 AM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: blam
it was put to use as a burial ship for a prominent woman who died in 834.... Under the ship was a thick layer of blue clay, while the mound itself was built up of turf.

Wait a minute! You mean they actually used the ship as a coffin and buried it?

I thought they put the person in the ship and burned it while on the water! Always thought THAT was a viking funeral.

I saw it in a movie, so it MUST be twue. ;)

38 posted on 01/03/2007 5:44:09 PM PST by Chani (Happy cows make good cheese.)
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

I'm just imagining that you credit the Romans with the invention of the "frame first, hull next" construction schedule first developed in the Middle Ages.


39 posted on 03/26/2007 12:20:58 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Chani

It was FOR a woman's burial.


40 posted on 03/26/2007 12:22:06 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

No clue. Whoever used this method of shipbuilding did it before the Romans, and probably before the Phoenecians.


41 posted on 03/26/2007 5:17:00 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: blam

"Johnny, put that down, that's very years old!" "Aw, ma, quit treating me like a baby, I just need to move it to . . . oops!"


42 posted on 03/26/2007 5:23:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

"Johnny, put that down, that's very old! Aw, ma, quit treating me like a baby, I just need to move it to . . . oops!"


43 posted on 03/26/2007 5:23:37 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: blam

Hire some Swedes to move the ship!!


44 posted on 03/26/2007 5:33:27 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: muawiyah; Pete from Shawnee Mission
Dover Bronze Age Ship

"The Dover Boat is of Bronze Age date, a period when metal was first used in Britain. The boat is around 3,550 years old (from radiocarbon dating some of the boat timber). Bronze Age sites are rare, but include one of the world's most spectacular monuments - Stonehenge. "

45 posted on 03/26/2007 5:38:38 PM PDT by blam
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46 posted on 11/01/2007 9:58:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Monday, October 22, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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