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Is retired Santa Ana teacher helping students into science careers? Do the math
LA Times ^ | 2 January 2007 | Yvonne Villarreal

Posted on 01/02/2007 5:34:34 AM PST by shrinkermd

...Paul J. Riordan, 75, who taught for 35 years in the Santa Ana Unified School District, said he grew tired of people writing off Latinos as "dumb." So he founded his nonprofit organization to prove their academic potential, and it has since expanded to include any low-income student.

"These kids are so uniquely different. They each have a story," Riordan said. "But they are all alike in that they have so much against them. They have true grit because they fight through the system despite their shortcomings."

Riordan held firmly to his walker as he shuffled along the carpet at a local restaurant during the group's latest meeting, two days after Christmas. After adjusting his large glasses, he opened his arms wide.

"There's my kiddies!" Riordan said as they approached for a hug or a handshake. "You kids are so damn bright, you scare me!"

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: highered; mexicans; teachers
Upbeat story about an upbeat teacher.
1 posted on 01/02/2007 5:34:38 AM PST by shrinkermd
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To: shrinkermd

Thank you for posting. That was a sweet article.


2 posted on 01/02/2007 5:36:53 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: shrinkermd
because they fight through the system

What does this mean ? They have to fight "the system" or they use the system to "fight thru" ?

3 posted on 01/02/2007 6:12:53 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: shrinkermd
By and large, government education is to learning what 30 pound blocks of government cheese is to cuisine.

Government is a high cost, low quality, late deliverer of goods and service. Unfortunately, fourteen or more years of immersion by developing brains in such an environment, actually causes physical brain deformations. No government institutions has so damaged, retarded and wasted as much.

It is in the interest of both Democrats, Republicans and the elites to keep the masses permanently brain damaged.
4 posted on 01/02/2007 6:42:41 AM PST by Leisler
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To: shrinkermd

Sounds like an amazing man. We could definitely use more like him.


5 posted on 01/02/2007 6:45:42 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: shrinkermd; SoftballMominVA; cinives; Leisler; Wormwood; All; KayEyeDoubleDee
Paul J. Riordan, 75, who taught for 35 years in the Santa Ana Unified School District, said he grew tired of people writing off Latinos as "dumb"...

"There's my kiddies!" Riordan said as they approached for a hug or a handshake. "You kids are so damn bright, you scare me"...

Other requirements include enrollment in a Santa Ana Unified school, a minimum 3.5 grade-point average; a letter of recommendation from a science or math teacher; the commitment to attend 50 seminars put on by Riordan's institute during the summer, Christmas and Easter school breaks; approval from parents; and eligibility for a federal free-lunch program.

"That's it. No exceptions," Riordan said. "I'm a bottom-liner. I don't stray from the rules."

This year four students each from five Santa Ana high schools will be selected.

This story is utterly fraudulent.

This fellow [or, more correctly, the LA Times disinformation specialist who is writing about this fellow] is cherry-picking the four [count 'em: 1,2,3,4] smartest kids at each high school, and extrapolating from that sample the conclusion that [politically-incorrect ethnic group name omitted so as not to anger the Admin Moderator] kids aren't dumb.

So if each high school has, say, 1500 students, he's cherry-picking the four smartest kids [i.e. the four kids at the very far right end of the bell curve], and telling the other 1496 to get lost.

Memo to Mr. Riordan [or, more to the point, Yvonne Villarreal]: Why don't you try taking the four stupidest kids at each high school, or even, God forbid, a random sample of four kids from each school, and then get back to me about just how "bright" they are.

PS: A glance at the Santa Ana Unified School District website indicates that there are not five, but rather eight high schools in the district: Century, Chavez, Lorin Griset Academy, Middle College, Saddleback, Santa Ana, Segerstrom Fundamental, and Valley West.

So in addition to cherry-picking the top four students, he's cherry-picking the top five high schools.

PPS: Names like "Claudia Leal", "Nada Soeun", and "Sokha Pin" don't sound particularly "[politically-incorrect ethnic group name omitted so as not to anger the Admin Moderator]" to me.

6 posted on 01/02/2007 8:19:21 AM PST by BubbaHeel
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To: BubbaHeel
...[politically-incorrect ethnic group name omitted so as not to anger the Admin Moderator]...

Don't be coy. If you've got something to say, go ahead and say it.

Everyone here knows the difference between being un-PC and being a bigot. Right?

7 posted on 01/02/2007 8:41:39 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
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To: BubbaHeel
>>Riordan, known as "El Jefe" (the boss) by his students, had envisioned the program for those who were "poor and bright," but that was only a starting point.

Other requirements include enrollment in a Santa Ana Unified school, a minimum 3.5 grade-point average; a letter of recommendation from a science or math teacher; the commitment to attend 50 seminars put on by Riordan's institute during the summer, Christmas and Easter school breaks; approval from parents; and eligibility for a federal free-lunch program.

"That's it. No exceptions," Riordan said. "I'm a bottom-liner. I don't stray from the rules."

This year four students each from five Santa Ana high schools will be selected.<<

It sounds to me as if, this year, he is picking the smartest, poor kids from five Santa Ana high schools. The minimum 3.5 grade-point average is not the grade score that you get from dumb kids or lazy kids.

Have you been in contact with yvonne.villarreal@latimes.com
8 posted on 01/02/2007 8:47:45 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: shrinkermd; SoftballMominVA; cinives; Leisler; Wormwood; All; KayEyeDoubleDee; B4Ranch
It's even worse than I first thought.

Here are the enrollment figures for the high schools in the Santa Ana Unified School District:

Century, enrollment: 2623
Chavez, enrollment: 252
Lorin Griset Academy, enrollment: 253
Middle College, enrollment: 273
Saddleback, enrollment: 3208
Santa Ana, enrollment: 4144
Segerstrom Fundamental, enrollment: ???
Valley West, enrollment: 3123

TOTAL HIGH-SCHOOL ENROLLMENT: >= 13,876
Now I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with what this guy is doing - but to present this astronomically selective sample as any sort of indication of the academic abilities of the broader student population [i.e. the other 13,800+ who do NOT get selected] is simply farcical.

Furthermore, as you read the story, you start wondering to yourself whether names like "Allison Truong", "Nada Soeun", and "Sokha Pin" are even "Latino" in the first place [as for "Claudia Leal" - well, I can't really say one way or the other].

Anyway, it looks like this guy Riordan [in conjunction with the LA Times "journalist", Yvonne Villarreal] is taking almost 14,000 Latino students, cherry-picking about one half of one percent of them [who just so happen to be the children, or grand-children, of Vietnamese/Cambodian/Laotian boat people] and, based upon that sample, drawing the conclusion that "[politically-incorrect ethnic group name omitted so as not to anger the Admin Moderator]" kids aren't dumb.
9 posted on 01/02/2007 9:26:36 AM PST by BubbaHeel
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I think the problem is in this sentence.

So he founded his nonprofit organization to prove their academic potential, and it has since expanded to include any low-income student.

Further down we see that it doesn't include any low-income student.

The requirements are to start a 3.5 grade point average. That cuts out most kids in any school.

10 posted on 01/02/2007 12:13:11 PM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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