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The polar bear in the living room (Lib alert)
The Oregonian ^ | January 2, 2007 | Editorial

Posted on 01/02/2007 1:38:53 PM PST by jazusamo

T he big, strong and beloved polar bear may at last achieve what thousands of scientists, economists, diplomats, conservationists and others have failed to accomplish: Persuade the Bush administration to respond to global warming.

Bush's U.S. Interior Department announced Dec. 27 that it is proposing to add polar bears to the list of threatened species under the Endangered Species Act. By acknowledging that the polar bear literally is on thin ice, the Bush administration has at last been required to make a completely scientific pronouncement on global warming.

For six years now the Bush administration has feinted and dodged from its responsibilities on climate change. It withdrew President Clinton's approval of the Kyoto Accord, secretly watered down research on global warming and deliberately sowed doubt about minor uncertainties in the science to undermine states' and other nations' responses to climate change.

The administration also has consistently refused to require the auto and trucking industries to curtail the greenhouse gas emissions that an overwhelming number of scientists assert are the major cause of global warming. The White House has actively tried to stop the states, including Oregon, from adopting stricter tailpipe standards to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

But not even the Bush administration can ignore the melting of the Arctic sea ice, or stomach the awful image of polar bears drowning in the open ocean, far from the nearest pack ice.

Polar bears are clearly in trouble, and so are other species, such as penguins, that depend on the same habitat. Experts on polar bears say that the adults they see are noticeably thinner, the mortality of cubs is much higher, and a few starving bears have even resorted to killing and eating other bears.

It will be at least a year before all the public hearings and environmental analyses are done and the federal government may formally add the polar bear to the Endangered Species List. But if and when that happens, there should be no more hiding from the responsibility to address global warming.

The Endangered Species Act requires decisions to be made "solely on the best available scientific information." The Bush administration never yet has been willing to make any global-warming decision on that basis.

But now it will have no choice. If the polar bear is listed as threatened, the government is bound by law to protect the bears -- and the polar ice they require to survive.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: enviros; globalwarming; polarbears
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In Oregon the polar bear is to global warming as the spotted owl was to timber with the Libs.
1 posted on 01/02/2007 1:38:55 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

This was debunked over here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1761001/posts


2 posted on 01/02/2007 1:40:01 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: jazusamo

I didn't know Oregon had polar bears........


3 posted on 01/02/2007 1:40:35 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: jazusamo

I think every liberal should be required to give up his cars, heating, air-conditioning, and electricity to help the bears.


4 posted on 01/02/2007 1:44:18 PM PST by American Quilter (You can't negotiate with people who are dedicated to your destruction.)
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To: Mount Athos

I knoe it's been debunked and thanks for posting the link. The moonbats at the Oregonian just don't know it yet.


5 posted on 01/02/2007 1:45:13 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
For six years now the Bush administration has feinted and dodged from its responsibilities on climate change. It withdrew President Clinton's approval of the Kyoto Accord...

President Clinton never approved the Kyoto Accord.

6 posted on 01/02/2007 1:45:24 PM PST by gridlock (We just got dumped. McCain and Rudy are Rebound Guys. Let's not marry the Rebound Guy.)
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To: Red Badger

LOL! They don't, but that doesn't matter to the moonbats.


7 posted on 01/02/2007 1:46:08 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo
This was predictable. The UN had problems with the question, "what happened to the polar bears during the Medieval Warm Period, when Chinese explorers were able to sail all the way around the North Pole, Iceland had a very small ice shelf, the fjords were clear, and the overall climate was a hit warmer than now?"

The UN simply removed the Medieval Warm Period, the Little Ice Age and Maunder Solar minimum, and published a flat line with a sharp uptick- the discredited Hockey Stick Graph. Winston Smith would have been proud at the bold rewrite of climate history.

Now that that little inconvenience is taken care of, we have a renewed putch for a complete realignment of the planet's economic system to one that is "just" and "sustainable" and "planet friendly", using the poor polar bear as a fuzzy mascot.
8 posted on 01/02/2007 1:47:52 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jazusamo
Persuade the Bush administration to respond to global warming.

Personally I'm working as hard as I can on global warming. It's supposed to be 60 degrees here (D.C. area) on Thursday.

GO GLOBAL WARMING, GO!!!

I'll drive my huge Toyota Sequoia SUV the long way to work more often. And start the Firebird and let it idle in the driveway during the colder months.

Now... how to stop the global warming on Mars... Damn Martian SUV's...

9 posted on 01/02/2007 1:48:30 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: gridlock
President Clinton never approved the Kyoto Accord.

That's a mere technicality to The Oregonian. :-)

10 posted on 01/02/2007 1:49:01 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

"It withdrew President Clinton's approval of the Kyoto Accord,"

Civics 101- the Senate approves of treaties and they refused to even consider ratifying it, so Clinton never sent it to the Senate.

Gore "symbolically" signed it and Clinton said that he did too, a meaningless act and a lie, but no "approval".


11 posted on 01/02/2007 1:50:07 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jazusamo

"the polar ice they require to survive."

Maybe the polar ice that's in the US territory. Canadians will ned to look out for the vast ice fields around baffin Island and the Russians will need to take care of the ice around Kamchatka, not us.


12 posted on 01/02/2007 1:51:56 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jazusamo

Plant more banana trees!!! THat oughta do it!


13 posted on 01/02/2007 1:52:32 PM PST by Waco
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To: DBrow
I hope it gets warm enough that some retarded granola head tree hugger like Timothy Treadwell will go and try to live amongst the Polar Bears...


14 posted on 01/02/2007 1:57:53 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: gridlock
President Clinton never approved the Kyoto Accord.

Please don't confuse Libs with facts. It makes their heads explode.

15 posted on 01/02/2007 1:58:39 PM PST by appleharvey
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To: Waco

"Plant more banana trees!!! THat oughta do it!"

What an idea! Then some goober in a gooberment agency will want to have a new division(with him as the head, of course) devoted to teaching polar bears to subsist on bananas.

;-)


16 posted on 01/02/2007 1:59:01 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: jazusamo

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17 posted on 01/02/2007 1:59:44 PM PST by sauropod ("Men would appreciate women's minds more if they bounced gently when they walked. ")
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To: Joe 6-pack

..and fall through the ice.

Meanwhile, global petrol requirements go down as northern latitudes warm!


18 posted on 01/02/2007 2:01:05 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow
"Meanwhile, global petrol requirements go down as northern latitudes warm!"

And all that northern oil (ANWR, etc.) becomes more easily accessible! BushCheneyHalliburton would have the cost of gas down to $0.30 a gallon if we could only get rid of the rest of those d@mn bears!

19 posted on 01/02/2007 2:07:08 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Voted Free Republic's Most Eligible Bachelor: 2006. Love them Diebold machines.)
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To: Mount Athos

"This was debunked over here:"

The "exhausted" polar bear story was debunked months ago.

The real news is a Bush Admin department took up the story.

Early strike from the admin to prepare us for carbon trading schemes??


20 posted on 01/02/2007 2:08:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: jazusamo
Polar bears are clearly in trouble, and so are other species, such as penguins, that depend on the same habitat.

Let's see, polar bears live in the Northern Hemisphere and penguins live in the Southern hemisphere. Polar bears live on ice, apparently, and penguins, being birds, live on land. How are these the same habitats?

21 posted on 01/02/2007 2:10:59 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Tempus Fidget - The time between the final hymn and recessional.)
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To: jazusamo

Looks like the ice will be okay for one more day.

January 2, 2007 weather report for
RESOLUTE, NUNAVUT, CANADA


Weather report as of 20 minutes ago (22:00 UTC):
The wind was blowing at a speed of 2.6 meters per second (5.8 miles per hour) from North/Northwest in Resolute, Canada. The temperature was -32 degrees Celsius (-26 degrees Fahrenheit).

That's okay for the polar bears but what about the poor penguins? The Arctic penguin should be on the top of the endangered list immediately. They're already incredibly difficult to locate. It may already be too late. Oh, the penguin-ity!


22 posted on 01/02/2007 2:25:59 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: jazusamo
It withdrew President Clinton's approval of the Kyoto Accord,

I am soooooooo sick of disingenuous, liberal morons.

The Senate vote on the protocol was 95-0. 

That means that the treaty was so lop-sided and unreasonably shitty that not one democrat was willing to grandstand and vote "Yes"

Not even one.

How bad does something have to be before no one in the Senate will grandstand for it?  Seriously, the only other resolution I could think of that would garner 100% opposition is a resolution calling for the execution of 100 puppies on the capitol steps.

Out of the 95 senators and 2 presidents that had a say in this treaty, every single person opposed it except one:  Bill Clinton.

 

 

23 posted on 01/02/2007 2:26:42 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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To: siunevada

That Arctic penguin is really what all those explorers were looking for while attempting to find the North pole, I understand. Do you know if they were successful? :-)


24 posted on 01/02/2007 2:34:20 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

I was just wondering where in our Constitution it notes the Federal governments responsibility in the polar arctic?


25 posted on 01/02/2007 2:41:07 PM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: jazusamo

Here`s another experts take on it.


"The claims of an Australian ecologist notwithstanding, Canada's leading polar bear biologist says that, while climate change poses a serious threat to the iconic Arctic mammals, they are under no threat of extinction in the next 25 years."

"A week ago, Tim Flannery, a well-known writer and environmentalist, warned that global warming poses a serious threat to the species."

"The projections of the polar bear specialists are that by about 2030, around that date, the species will be extinct," he told CBC Radio. Flannery was in Canada to promote his best-selling new book, The Weather Makers.

"But Ian Stirling, the country's foremost expert on polar bears, said the bears are in no imminent danger of disappearing, and such claims add dangerous hyperbole to a serious debate."
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=855f9f02-de4c-442f-94a2-e372e71703e3

Does`nt matter, though, because their views will be ignored in the mounting hysteria. Polar bears are headed for extinction,,,end of discussion. No opposing views will be permitted.


27 posted on 01/02/2007 2:56:33 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: Mount Athos; jazusamo

I saw a special on the History Channel the other night pointing to climate change as the greatest threat to civilization. It had Al Gore on and the segment completely bashed FoxNews, comparing people who don't accept that point of view as being equivalent to holocaust deniers.


28 posted on 01/02/2007 3:12:38 PM PST by MovementConservative (For a tree to grow, it must be occasionally pruned)
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To: gridlock
President Clinton never approved the Kyoto Accord.

Not only did he not approve it, it wasn't his to approve--it was Congress', which didn't approve it either.

29 posted on 01/02/2007 3:12:41 PM PST by randog (What the...?!)
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To: Red Badger
I didn't know the Arctic had Penguins ("Polar bears are clearly in trouble, and so are other species, such as penguins, that depend on the same habitat.")
30 posted on 01/02/2007 3:17:11 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: jazusamo
Do you know if they were successful? :-)

I think it's possible they fed the entire population to their sled dogs and failed to mention the fact.

31 posted on 01/02/2007 3:19:31 PM PST by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
I'll drive my huge Toyota Sequoia SUV the long way to work more often. And start the Firebird and let it idle in the driveway during the colder months.

I've been spraying hairspray into the air all afternoon. I think it's a hoax because it hasn't gotten warmer here at all......or maybe I need more hairspray.
32 posted on 01/02/2007 3:21:37 PM PST by Jaysun (I've never paid for sex in my life. And that's really pissed off a lot of prostitutes.)
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To: arbooz
MMMMM! Polar burgers Yummy.Maybe if we eat them people will raise them for food like the endangered bison once were.MMM Buffalo burgers.
33 posted on 01/02/2007 3:23:21 PM PST by bikerman
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To: DBrow

The Senate, 95-0, instructed Clinton not to bring the Kyoto Treaty before them for ratification, citing, for one stopper, the fact that China and certain other "developing" nations, were not to be made subject to the Kyoto's demands.
That aside, in this polar bear fiasco the Bushies have once again rolled over rather than stand firm, thereby setting us up for more trouble from the now-encouraged enviros


34 posted on 01/02/2007 3:25:18 PM PST by Elsiejay (\)
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To: jazusamo

"the Bush administration has at last been required to make a completely scientific pronouncement on global warming."

The enviro-whacko's seem to think that if the climate's changing, the inescapable conclusion is that it's man caused; like it's never happened before!


35 posted on 01/02/2007 3:27:42 PM PST by Spok (He who bites the hands that feeds him will lick the boot that kicks him.)
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To: siunevada
I think it's possible they fed the entire population to their sled dogs and failed to mention the fact.

LOL! That's got to be it, they must have been tasty too, they ate 'em all.

36 posted on 01/02/2007 3:40:07 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

Most people in the lower 48 have no concept of what the annual sea ice cycle is like in the Arctic. Do note that the MSM never show any footage of it during Winter or Spring. They do not want the sheeple to know that there is nothing but solid ice from the Arctic shores of North America clear across the pole to Siberia. Even Hudson's Bay is currently solid ice all the way across, as is the Bering Strait.


37 posted on 01/02/2007 3:53:35 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: jazusamo

http://www.ecoenquirer.com/polar-bear-heat.htm



Hunter Jeremiah Johnson comforts a polar bear that had collapsed from heat exhaustion before he could shoot it.


38 posted on 01/02/2007 3:59:48 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: dynachrome

Old Jeremiah is a kind hearted soul, isn't he? :-)


39 posted on 01/02/2007 4:04:31 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: jazusamo

"Old Jeremiah is a kind hearted... "
That story always brings a tear to my eye.


40 posted on 01/02/2007 4:08:44 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: jazusamo


The polar bear population is going UP not down.


41 posted on 01/02/2007 4:35:05 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: Red Badger

Surely they do, in a zoo. maybe in circuses, too.


42 posted on 01/02/2007 4:39:52 PM PST by GSlob
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To: MovementConservative

How about this?


"A U.S. based environmental magazine that both former Vice President Al Gore and PBS newsman Bill Moyers, for his October 11th global warming edition of “Moyers on America” titled “Is God Green?” have deemed respectable enough to grant one-on-one interviews to promote their projects, is now advocating Nuremberg-style war crimes trials for skeptics of human caused catastrophic global warming."
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568


"One Australian columnist has proposed outlawing ‘climate change denial’. ‘David Irving is under arrest in Austria for Holocaust denial’, she wrote. ‘Perhaps there is a case for making climate change denial an offence. It is a crime against humanity, after all."
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/1782/

The day could very well come where debating global warming could land someone in prison.



43 posted on 01/02/2007 4:40:43 PM PST by chessplayer
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To: jazusamo

"The big, strong and beloved polar bear may at last achieve what thousands of scientists, economists, diplomats, conservationists and others have failed to accomplish: Persuade the Bush administration to respond to global warming."



The Democrats control Congress. It's their decision. Put up or shut up.


44 posted on 01/02/2007 4:45:03 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: jazusamo

If every car, power plant and human being were vaporized, the Earth would still be warming. The polar bears, if they cannot shift habitats, will not survive.


45 posted on 01/02/2007 5:09:56 PM PST by montag813
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To: Jaysun
I've been spraying hairspray into the air all afternoon. I think it's a hoax because it hasn't gotten warmer here at all......or maybe I need more hairspray.

The trick is to use the aerosol cans, not the pump... :)

46 posted on 01/02/2007 5:10:52 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: jazusamo
Experts on polar bears say...

Aren't most 4 year old boys "experts" on polar bears?

47 posted on 01/02/2007 5:12:20 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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48 posted on 01/02/2007 5:24:43 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: Red Badger

I didn't know Oregon had polar bears........
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They don't silly. That's why they're endangered.


49 posted on 01/02/2007 5:29:02 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: UnklGene; 69ConvertibleFirebird

LOL!


50 posted on 01/02/2007 5:29:40 PM PST by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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