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1 posted on 01/03/2007 11:01:44 AM PST by AndrewWalden
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To: AndrewWalden
I just saw via the DrudgeReport that the muslim congressman is planning on swearing his oath of office on Jefferson's copy of the Koran. Interesting. Link
2 posted on 01/03/2007 11:07:14 AM PST by Horkster (MoHAMmed...pork be upon him.)
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bump for later


3 posted on 01/03/2007 11:09:39 AM PST by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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Clearly -- the ONLY permanent solution is to totally destroy militant Islam and all who follow the militant directions in the Koran.

For a peaceful and tolerant Islam to evolve or survive, one must assume there are "peace loving, moderate Muslims"....
A belief with little empirical evidence to support.

Semper Fi


4 posted on 01/03/2007 11:13:05 AM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: AndrewWalden

Chilling. History not shared is lost. How many Americans know this? We are doomed to suffer and repeat History again and again, unless we destroy the enemy.


5 posted on 01/03/2007 11:15:36 AM PST by SolidWood (Sadr lives. Kill him.)
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The "History Channel" had a great documentary on last night, Saddam and the Third Reich.
7 posted on 01/03/2007 11:19:15 AM PST by TexasCajun
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Very good read!


10 posted on 01/03/2007 11:23:15 AM PST by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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In Jefferson's War: America's First War on Terror 1801-1805 the point is made that Jefferson understood a bit of the danger faced by the Tripolitan and associated Muslim pirates. His (Jefferson's) use of extreme force in crushing the enemy was a lesson that we would do well to repeat.
14 posted on 01/03/2007 11:36:00 AM PST by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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To: AndrewWalden

I always think of the irony of when I found this out. Because of 9/11 we started our homeschool schedule a week later. We were to learn about pirates. The only pirate documentary I could find in the library was on the Barbary pirates.


15 posted on 01/03/2007 11:36:38 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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Payment in Iron

Few people know that the impetus in creating the United States Navy and the Marines was to combat Islamic pirates.

After all, the United States could have gotten by with a coastal patrol force if it were not necessary to send men half way around the World to protect our interests. This war we are in is nothing new, not even for a young country like ours.

17 posted on 01/03/2007 11:39:00 AM PST by bondjamesbond (Many Americans are invested in a US failure in Iraq, and will work diligently to bring it about.)
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Ironically, I just posted the following on another thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1742163/posts?page=24#24

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A man who thought of himself as a "true" Christian, in that he believed Jesus brought the best moral code to humanity, a man who had to deal with the Barbary pirates and who had to compromise in the signing of a treaty with dubious wording so non-Muslims wouldn't have to pay Islamic tax? Jefferson was no fan of Islam, believe me. He studied law, including the Qur'an as a system of laws, but I don't think he gave it a lot of consideration for the very simple reason that he didn't have to deal with it on home soil. He didn't keep the Qur'an by his bedside and memorize it. It was just extraneous study material to him. He was more concerned with arguments between Christian denominations - irritated by them, really, because he thought the disagreements were ruining Christ's real message. Although there were those of his time who did know enough about Islam to discuss it and to be rightfully fearful of it, I don't think Jefferson was an Islamic scholar. Rather, I think he approached it with some amount of naivete and a sense of it being "far away" and thus not our problem. If it had become an issue on American soil, I think he would have become obsessive in studying and refuting Islam because the laws of Islam are polar opposites from our Bill of Rights and our Constitution, and therefore, against everything he believed in.

24 posted on 01/03/2007 11:20:22 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)


18 posted on 01/03/2007 11:43:26 AM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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Mark for later


21 posted on 01/03/2007 11:49:42 AM PST by MadLibDisease (Want a nanny state? You are no conservative.)
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As a result Americans led by President James Madison fought Algerians in the Second Barbary War in 1815, leading to another treaty

I believe that's the one where we said we are not a Christian nation.

The trend of Muslim defeat began to reverse after the Second World War even though many Muslim leaders had backed Hitler’s Third Reich.

More specifically, the grand mufti of Jerusalem worked closely with Hitler on a solution to their shared "Jewish problem." And today's Palestinians have the gall to play the innocent victim role.

28 posted on 01/03/2007 12:17:02 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: AndrewWalden

bump for later read


31 posted on 01/03/2007 12:52:46 PM PST by pt17
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To: AndrewWalden
One of my favorite citations of all time was Ayn Rand's which went something like this:
America's founding fathers were the world's first intellectuals in government.
Unfortunately, they were also the last.
Rings true even today.
33 posted on 01/03/2007 1:05:33 PM PST by Bon mots
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ping


35 posted on 01/03/2007 1:12:00 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Saddam is Dead! Bush's Fault. [Pray for our patriot brother, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub.])
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bflr.


38 posted on 01/03/2007 1:31:52 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: AndrewWalden
I agree with most of this article, but this is absurd.


"...because representatives of South Carolina and Georgia threatened secession which would have led to war...."

Really? It would have led to war only if the rest of the colonies had attacked South Carolina and Georgia. They could have let them secede in peace. As in the civil war later, the south did not force the north to attack it..... Secession does not force wars.

the rest of the article was right on.
42 posted on 01/03/2007 1:44:28 PM PST by monday
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The American response needs to be the same now as in the days of Jefferson. No prisoners.
50 posted on 01/03/2007 3:11:26 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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The American response needs to be the same now as in the days of Jefferson. No prisoners.
51 posted on 01/03/2007 3:11:32 PM PST by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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, American ships were pirated and their Christian crews enslaved by Muslim pirates operating under the control of the “Dey of Algiers”—an Ottoman Islamist warlord ruling Algeria.

When I pointed this fact out to an liberal ex-friend of mine, I was accused of bigotry, racism and a lot of other things.

52 posted on 01/03/2007 3:13:30 PM PST by GSWarrior
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