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The Hanging: Beyond Travesty
The Washington Post ^ | January 05, 2007 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 01/04/2007 9:34:57 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker

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1 posted on 01/04/2007 9:34:59 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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To: 21stCenturyFreeThinker

Something worth doing is worth doing right.


2 posted on 01/04/2007 9:36:24 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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I love CK, but I disagree with him here. This is what public hangings were like in this country but 80 years ago. Humiliation was/is part of the punishment when one faced/faces the hangman.


3 posted on 01/04/2007 9:37:39 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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BTW: Dump the Sunnis, but allow them to share in the oil revenues. Most were loyal to Saddam, and nothing will ever change this.


4 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:22 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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they did do it right - he's dead.


5 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:22 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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For the Iraqi government to have botched both his trial and execution, therefore, and turned monster into victim, is not just a tragedy, but a crime...

It's all new to them, Charles. Did you learn everything you know overnight? Or even in three and a half years?

Didn't think so.

What matters is that they got the job done and they can move on.

6 posted on 01/04/2007 9:38:42 PM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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Oh c'mon Charles. They just need more practice. Ease up on 'em. Give 'em time.


7 posted on 01/04/2007 9:39:17 PM PST by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Clemenza
Most were loyal to Saddam, and nothing will ever change this.

So very untrue.

The task of getting the real truth out of Iraq is an almost insurmountable one.

Will not give up...will not give up...will not give up...

8 posted on 01/04/2007 9:40:46 PM PST by Allegra (Vote Dulcie / Finbar 2008)
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For the Iraqi government to have botched both his trial and execution, therefore, and turned monster into victim, is not just a tragedy, but a crime -- against the new Iraq that Americans are dying for, and against justice itself.

It's not the Iraqi government who decided to stress the moments in the trial when Sadaam was defiant instead of his atrocities; its the DBM which did that. Every time they showed Sadaam on TV, they could have put him in a small box in the corner and run pictures of mass graves, dead Kurds, human shredders, etc. No, they chose to try to make him an object of sympathy. grrrr

9 posted on 01/04/2007 9:42:38 PM PST by Freee-dame
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As was posted on a previous thread:

"I thought our mission was to create a viable democracy in Iraq? If so, the chanting of sectarian slogans during Saadam's well deserved end was akin to spitting on our troops. Many have died in an attempt to better than country but the executioners' behavior, as recorded on cell phone cams, makes the task all the more harder."


10 posted on 01/04/2007 9:43:02 PM PST by KantianBurke
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The hanging looked technically sound, if a little short on decorum.


11 posted on 01/04/2007 9:43:53 PM PST by dighton
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I suppose my plans to make and market a Saddam pinata would be way out of line, then.


12 posted on 01/04/2007 9:45:39 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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"..It was also carried out extra-constitutionally. The constitution requires a death sentence to have the signature of the president and two vice presidents, each representing the three major ethnic groups in the country (Sunni, Shiite and Kurd). That provision is meant to prevent sectarian killings. The president did not sign. Maliki contrived some work-around..."

Iraqi president will not sign death warrant for Saddam

".."Personally, no, I won't sign," he told the BBC. But he hinted he may abstain and pass the decision to the two vice-presidents, Adel Abdul Mahdi, a Shia, and Ghazi Yawar, a Sunni Arab, who with him comprise the presidential council. "My two partners in the presidency, the government, the house, all of them are for sentencing Saddam Hussein to death before the court will decide. So, I think I will be alone in this field.".."

The above is from April 19, 2005 and CK should have been aware of the President's position.

13 posted on 01/04/2007 9:47:26 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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The hanging seemed OK to me. A mass murderer was executed. That's all that counts. Saddam didn't deserve a dignified execution

So what if there was some yelling by the Shiites at the execution? Much ado about nothing, same as Abu Ghraib prison with prisoners on a dog leash or wearing panties on their head


14 posted on 01/04/2007 9:50:09 PM PST by dennisw (Don't let your past become your future -- Georges Gurdjieff)
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I disagree with all the pre planned hand wringing over this execution. I watched it and listened. What did anyone expect a hanging of a tyrant to be like our sterile Needle in Vein crap. Plus does anyone remember see the victim impact statements at Geffory Dommers trial. There was much worse said there that at this hanging. Much worse. The whole thing is again a MEDIA jerk circle of stupid people with a propaganda agenda aganist this war. I thought the whole thing was tame. I figured he would be hung in public. Which is what he deserved at the least.


15 posted on 01/04/2007 9:52:51 PM PST by therut
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"For the Iraqi government to have botched both his trial and execution, therefore, and turned monster into victim, is not just a tragedy, but a crime "


??? Being heckled as he died is a 'crime' ???

Its no more than an unfortunate detail.


I really doesnt matter what happened, as the libtard press would find some complaint to whine about. Having a monster like Saddam be put to death is a challenge to all the dolts who think that 'no crime deserves the death sentence'.

Saddam was responsible for his crimes and received Justice, just as the libtards are for theirs and hopefully will also face their own repercussions.
16 posted on 01/04/2007 9:53:36 PM PST by wodinoneeye
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He's dead.....I'd say they accomplished their goal, and that IS right. SHEESH....the guy had 400,000 people tortured and murdered. I still say he should have been put through a shredder.


17 posted on 01/04/2007 9:54:15 PM PST by goodnesswins (When a "religion" has no commandments.....no wonder no one wants to go to Church on Sunday!)
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To: Clemenza
I love CK, but I disagree with him here. This is what public hangings were like in this country but 80 years ago. Humiliation was/is part of the punishment when one faced/faces the hangman.
If they were only humiliating Saddam it might be one thing, but this is a country on the verge of civil war. Why execute him on the Sunni's major religious holiday? He'd be just as dead if hanged a week later without a bunch of Sadr thugs doing the hanging.

The man was guilty as sin, but our values require he get a fair trial. Imagine what would happen in this country if the government replaced the judge in a trial because they thought he was ruling in favor of the defendant too often?

There's really no reason to fan the flames of civil war.
18 posted on 01/04/2007 9:55:26 PM PST by 21stCenturyFreeThinker
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"For the Iraqi government to have botched both his trial and execution, therefore, and turned monster into victim"

Pretty well sums it up. The MSM has turned the execution into victimization of Saddam, even though he got a fair trial, had appeals reviewed etc.

The taunting by the guards was no more abusive than the chant "Dead Man Walking" on the Green Mile. Saddam knew who he wronged. Saddam knew those people would seek revenge. He was lucky he got a fair trial at all because the people would have chopped him up in the streets in front of live tv and they would have been just as satisfied justice was served.

Saddam is dead. he got what he deserved. He was a perp, not a victim.


19 posted on 01/04/2007 9:55:52 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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Oh heck if the left wing kooks could get Bush hung they would say their taunts were FREE SPEECH DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 01/04/2007 9:57:05 PM PST by therut
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