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1 posted on 01/05/2007 6:06:57 AM PST by A. Pole
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I thought Steve Sailor articles were banned at FR?


2 posted on 01/05/2007 6:12:55 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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Celebration of Diversity bump


3 posted on 01/05/2007 6:16:20 AM PST by A. Pole (XIV century English rhyme: "When Adam delved and Eve span, who was the gentleman?")
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I assumed that individualism made America great.

It did. The limited constitutional republic gave maximum freedom to individuals. They built the greatest country in the history of civilization. The United Individuals of America will only be destroyed by foreign or domestic anti-individual, anti-freedom collectives.

8 posted on 01/05/2007 8:26:58 AM PST by PGalt
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The "civic generation", for better or worse, is gone. I have heard stories about the civic organizations that my grandfather belonged to and the volunteering he did. I saw that my father belonged to many organizations and groups, unpaid for the most part. These included being a Boy Scout leader, on the board of a Credit Union, belonging to several civic steering groups (for example, for helping prepare and cataloging a coin collection that was given to the City), etc. That does not include both being veterans.

I have belonged to a few civic groups. The most recent was on a committee that was trying to figure out a way to meet Federal rainwater guidelines without bankrupting everyone. I posted about it here a while back. Most here had no idea why I would volunteer to serve on such a thing and several posters criticized it.

If volunteerism is one of the things that made America great, it is gone now.


9 posted on 01/05/2007 8:57:27 AM PST by jim_trent
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America works as a multicultural society, to the degree that it works, because it has a unifying secular religion ("Freedom and Democracy") that is undergirded by a pervasive religious culture, mostly Christian, heavily evangelical.

Break down that unifying ideology, and the country will come apart at the seams within a generation.

If you only know America from Hollywood or CNN, you will miss the America that works, I suppose the kind of people who wind up in Hollywood or CNN are a self-selected group that hardly knows their own country. This secular religion rooted in evangelical Christianity is able to absorb the most diverse streams of immigrants, and tie them all together into a fairly raucous, fairly chaotic, but ultimately functioning unit.

It has to be noted that during most of our history, the greatest number of immigrants came out of various Christian cultures, whether they were themselves as individuals believers or not, and aside from a few bumps in the first generation, absorbing them has not been that difficult.

The greatest disaster to befall us has been the capture of our schools and universities by the Left, which is openly hostile to the very thing that holds us together, and has systematically eliminated any reference to it from public education at any level. The unifying ideology that was once inculcated consciously in public education is no longer taught, it has to be absorbed from your family or out of the air, if at all. This is disastrous in a "multicultural" nation of immigrants.

Eliminate the "under God" and the country will fall apart, and no one will miss us. Its never been necessary that everyone believe in the secular religion, and it certainly has never been necessary for everyone to be a Christian believer, but it has worked to the degree that it worked because there was a critical mass of believers who provided the common philosophical language which was and is the glue.

Most countries are ethnic entities, and it doesn't matter what you believe, you are still French, or German, or whatever. We are not, we are a uniquely ideological entity which is our strength and our weakness. We can absorb immigrants in numbers that would overwhelm any other country, and come up laughing. But even we can be overwhelmed, if first of all the numbers are too great for assimilation, or even worse if having stripped the public space of any reference to our unifying national religion there is nothing to assimilate to.


11 posted on 01/05/2007 10:29:58 AM PST by marron
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Something else from Steve Sailer.

Yeah, sure. Whatever.


14 posted on 01/07/2007 9:32:58 PM PST by rdb3 (But the riot inside moves on...)
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To: A. Pole

Great post. Thanks.


15 posted on 01/07/2007 9:48:32 PM PST by GOPJ
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