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Horror stories: Baby sitting and the opt-out revolution
Charlottesville Hook ^ | 1/4/07 | The Brazen Careerist

Posted on 01/05/2007 8:32:57 AM PST by qam1

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To: Little Ray
My wife's group held a meeting once, and everybody brought their laptops and connected wirelessly to view the presentation.

Yes, I've heard of this. However, unless the group also brought their babies, it's not the same as the author's situation. She told the babysitter to bring the baby to the coffeeshop (although she didn't tell him very clearly, because I also thought she meant he should leave the sleeping baby at home!).

If she's an employee of the coffee shop, her child should not be there when she's on shift. If she was meeting clients, the child still shouldn't be there, unless the clients expected it, and then what does she need the babysitter for?

61 posted on 01/05/2007 9:43:28 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: lastchance
Amen!

carolyn

62 posted on 01/05/2007 9:43:53 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: jusduat
I just can't believe how many people I am running into that think national healthcare would be a good thing.

It's scary, isn't it? I worked with a life-and-health actuary who thought Hillary-care was a good idea!

Terrifying ... you'd think that a person who spent his time calculating health-care costs would understand that the costs aren't going to go away, no matter how the system is arranged.

63 posted on 01/05/2007 9:46:11 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: WIladyconservative

Yet this woman undoubtedly considers herself smart.


64 posted on 01/05/2007 9:47:44 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Oberon
when I first saw her use the term "opt out," I thought she meant opting out of her primary job, i.e. parenting.

Silly me. In this author's world, all adults have day jobs and parenting is a hobby.

That is the most perspicacious comment I've seen on this thread. (Not that all the others were bad ...) I'm putting it in the mental file to use myself at the first opportunity!

65 posted on 01/05/2007 9:48:49 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: Tax-chick

She said she had two successful "startups" so here is a perfect opportunity for her to start up another - Executive babysitting.


66 posted on 01/05/2007 9:48:53 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Little Ray
Most coffeshops seem have wireless access.
When I read the first sentence, I thought you were gonna suggest that qam1 should monitor her child at the coffee shop via laptop/ webcam!
(Hope I didn't give her the idea!)
67 posted on 01/05/2007 9:50:04 AM PST by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Old Professer

I've thought of going into that business myself, when I'm 60 or so :-).

I also liked the story about the German man who was a "relationship terminator"!


68 posted on 01/05/2007 9:50:28 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Everything is either willed or permitted by God, and nothing can hurt me." Bl. Charles de Foucauld)
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To: Tax-chick
Or, alternatively, they could agree that they are a team, with each filling an essential position. They could work together to set their priorities.

Ahhh. Common sense and realizing that life is not "all about ME." What an epiphany! ;-)

69 posted on 01/05/2007 9:51:17 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: CurlyDave

That is not what is being alluded to here. This nitwit WORKS at the coffee shop.


70 posted on 01/05/2007 9:52:06 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: Minutemen

No. I've already gotten in trouble once for leaving my six year old at home alone for an hour, while I ran to the store to get her medicine. Never leave the child alone. Webcams don't count.


71 posted on 01/05/2007 9:53:38 AM PST by Little Ray
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To: qam1
The third day, I told him I'd be at the coffee shop. I told him if he wants to go there, go when the baby is asleep so the baby doesn't see me and start crying for me

What bizarre instructions. Seems like the lawyer doofus did what he was told.

More fundamentally, why did this woman have a kid if she didn't want to be around it?

72 posted on 01/05/2007 9:54:00 AM PST by Sloth (The GOP is to DemonRats in politics as Michael Jackson is to Jeffrey Dahmer in babysitting.)
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To: Terabitten

"As the kids get older, the opt-out revolution is about opting out of the absurd and inflexible hours that corporate America is demanding right now.
While, of course, demanding that her husband work more absurd and inflexible hours to "pick up the slack."


That is his responsibility of course. He is the bread winner and she is the MOM.


73 posted on 01/05/2007 9:56:19 AM PST by annelizly
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To: misterrob
We are long past the days of Ozzie and Harriet and Leave it to Beaver where Dad goes to work every day and Mom stays home and raises the kids. Many people who thumb their nose at families where Mom works speak from experiences 20 years ago or live in more rural or less economically vibrant areas.

...and are therefore wrong?

I'm head of a single-income family, so structured in order that we can homeschool our children. Some people deliberately choose this life, even today, and it's not out of ignorance.

74 posted on 01/05/2007 9:56:29 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree in part, although a child should never be left sleeping in a bed, or close to an unguarded stairway.

Beds are dangerous, not only can the children roll off, but the baby can get tangled in the covers and suffocate (happened in a day care center at least once I remember).

We hired baby sitters from time to time, but they were kids we knew from the neighborhood, who had played with our children, or children from our church.

My wife didn't work until the kids were in school. Raising kids is a full-time job, and one of the parents should take that job, not hire it out. My wife beat me to it (she actually had stopped working several years before we had our first kid).


75 posted on 01/05/2007 9:58:03 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: misterrob
Many people who thumb their nose at families where Mom works speak from experiences 20 years ago or live in more rural or less economically vibrant areas.

Nonsense. We live in an 'economically vibrant area,' 35 miles from NYC.

I stayed at home and raised all four of our children. Homeschooled the youngest. Never had a single problem with any of my kids getting into drugs, alcohol, tattoos, piercings, or any of the other 'fads' so many of their peers --children of dual-career parents-- fell for.

We did all this on ONE income --my husband's. And he doesn't have a fancy degree.

Don't tell me I'm the exception. Lots of stay-at-home/homeschooling moms live in my area. And they live well, if not opulently.

People who insist that you need two incomes to support a family are either lying or delusional. Too bad for their children.

76 posted on 01/05/2007 9:58:17 AM PST by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: qam1

Our company taps into top-tier stay at home moms regularly for all kinds of consulting work.

This lady's a whack job, but her point is valid. You don't need to go to work to maintain some sort of connection to your career, and you can do it in the context of staying home to raise your kids.

However, don't expect to CLIMB some sort of ladder while you are raising 0 to 5 year olds.

The technology available in the home is MOST DEFINITELY good enough for great talent to contribute in specific ways. We get talent we couldn't even discuss affording at incredible rates simply because we accommodate stay at home moms.

In large organizations, this is a nightmare. Small to medium, this is very workable.


77 posted on 01/05/2007 10:00:21 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Ignorance should be painful)
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To: shhrubbery!

I noticed your use of the PAST tense which means you are affiming my point about experiences from years ago.


We live in a different era today. For most people who want to buy a house today the ASP is staggering. If you want a house in a good area (low crime, decent schools) then it costs you something. If people can afford to have a stay home TODAY then it means one parent makes real money. If you want to make real money then you won't likely do it in a rural area economy unless you own a business. Since $150K a year on one income is hard to come by then it means that two people usually work.


78 posted on 01/05/2007 10:07:28 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: Oberon

Who said it was?


79 posted on 01/05/2007 10:08:10 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: RinaseaofDs

And this is a good situation for people and companies. What if I don't need 40 hours a week for someone to be a high paid employee but instead I need about 50 hours per month? I can get a talented person for reasonable cost and she gets to earn income and maintain her skills and sanity doing grown up stuff on the side.


80 posted on 01/05/2007 10:11:09 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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