U.S.-Mexico Pact Revealed: Billions to Non-citizens

Newsmax ^ | January 5, 2007 | Dave Eberhart

[EQAndyBuzz]

"The bushbots should be along any time now to tell us all how we are misreading this. That this is a good thing. And that King George can do no wrong."

This is a good thing. King George can do no wrong.

Then again, if Bush is so wrong on this, Pelosi wouldn't be speaker now would she? We get what we pay for.

[potlatch]

You are always well informed on the facts, I certainly won't argue with anything you say.

[janetgreen]

I still cannot believe the fantasies of some that Jeb Bush could become President -

BTTT

I think the one the Bush family is holding in "reserve" is George P. Bush, Jeb's son. The Mexicans will surely vote for him, even though his name is Bush. He gives speeches in Spanish, both in the U.S. and in Mexico. I VOTE NO!!!

[ApplegateRanch]

"If an immigrant gains what's called a valid ‘work-authorized' Social Security number at some point, then he or she could eventually file a claim for benefits. The government would use all earnings to calculate the retirement benefit — even earnings while working illegally," Phillips added.

The New Sooners:

"Earning" benefits sooner than they are legally supposed to.

[chit*chat]

No need to be upset about this. Our economy will recoup the money as the Mexican citizens buy our goods through the free trade agreement of NAFTA. /sarc

[A. Pole]

TREA Senior Citizens League, a Washington-based nonpartisan seniors group, announced this week that after Freedom of Information Act lawsuits it filed against the government, it had received the secret agreement document.
[...]
The Government Accountability Office (GAO) has already warned that as a result of this agreement, the number of unauthorized Mexican workers and family members eligible for social security benefits will likely increase.
[...]
For example, say TREA officials, a worker who turns 62 after 1990 generally needs 40 calendar quarters of coverage to receive retirement benefits. Under Totalization Agreements, workers are allowed to combine earnings from both countries in order to qualify for benefits.

The agreement with Mexico, like other Totalization Agreements, would allow workers to qualify with just six quarters, or 18 months, of U.S. coverage.

In addition, advised TREA, that worker could be able to claim credits for work performed while in the United States illegally.

Amazing.

[Malsua]

According to the Social Security Administration, the Social Security Trust Fund will begin paying out more than it is taking in by 2017, and will be exhausted by the year 2040.

Why doesn't anyone challenge this? The Social Security Trust Fund is fiction. Once SS pays out more than it takes in, Taxes will have to rise. Of course, just run a larger deficit and inflate out of it, will probably occur.

[TAdams8591]

EVery day I encounter LEGAL immigrants who did not pay into Social Security who receive benefits which to me is unbelieveably outrageous. There are no words to describe the injustice and stupidity of paying SS beneifts to illegals even though some may have paid into the system.

Frankly, it pays to be an illegal and I see no ending to the problem in sight.

[MarkL]

Does this mean I can collect Mexician SS too?

Funny how it doesn't quite seem to work like that... Mexico has laws that I think that everyone here would think are perfectly reasonable regarding "illegal immigration," although the way they enforce the laws are more than a little "harsh." Mexico has very strict laws as to what rights foreigners have while in Mexico... And if you're an illegal alien, you'll be lucky to survive... Although it seems that as long as your final destination is the US, Mexico is willing to help the central and south american illegals get into the US.

I've been an advocate of allowing our "partners" to set our laws... What they deem good for themselves should be just as good when we use those laws for outselves. For example, we use the same restrictions on our southern border that Mexico has on its own souther border. And our immigration laws should be similar to those of Mexico. And so on...

If foreign governments want to engage us in "free trade," they need to understand that "free trade" works both ways.

Mark

[Clintonfatigued]

It's nothing less than appalling. Border security is Bush's most overwhelming failure.

[DH]

It is a wonder that the United States has lasted this long.

Well, actually...it hasn't.  We simply live in what's left of the United States after it's invasion from the south and attacks on all political fronts by liberals. 

The United States we knew ended in the 60's.  It's simply taken this long for the hippies to reach the political power to complete the total destruction of the American way of life.

[kellynla]

More bad news

[Paul Ross]

Anybody care to guess?

No need to guess, its right here.

Google is indeed a powerful search engine.

For the record, I believe the succession...almost a continuous stream... of conservative betrayals by the Administration [from CNOOCP's attempted buyout of UNOCAL, the abortive Harriet Meiers appointment to the Supreme Court, the UAE/DPW Ports Imbroglio, and then the in-the-nation's-face insults over Illegal Aliens, and a brazen intention to grant Amnesty...and straightfacedly call it something else...and then outright lying to cover for China's economic and national security predations...] appear to have triggered a reevaluation.

No need to dwell on it.

He definitely had it right the first time. His old man definitely is an unregenerate Panda-Hugger, and...if he is to be believed...he can't conceive that the Chi-Comms aren't our friends. And the Goldman-Sachs teams that W has hired faithfully reflect the identical special interest or worse mindset.

[investigateworld]

"It's nothing less than appalling. Border security is Bush's most overwhelming failure."

Not to be picky, but the word 'failure' implies unwanted consequences. This invasion and the resulting permanent Democrat majority is exactly what TPTB wanted all along.

[FixitGuy]

Sure. Bring 'em all into the system.

Soon it'll be an "upgrade" to move to Mexico and leave the "barrio" that was once the U.S.

[Pelham]

Su dinero es mi dinero. Gracias, estúpidas.