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What Thomas Jefferson learned from the Muslim book of jihad
The U.S Veteran Dispatch ^ | 1-05-07 | Ted Sampley

Posted on 01/05/2007 9:02:03 PM PST by smoothsailing

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61 posted on 01/05/2007 11:45:58 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Just A Nobody
Mein Kampf is the koran in german!

With the prophet's career summarized and his attributes documented, it's time we take a final look at the man who mirrored his character and mission. Only miles and years distinguished Hitler from his mentor.

Der fuhrer's methods for accomplishing his madness were identical to der prophet's. Mein Kampf:676 "Spiritual terror...men must threaten and dominate men by compulsion. Compulsion is only broken by compulsion and terror by terror." On the road to power, compulsion follows seduction. And the lever that coerces compulsion is terror. Hitler simply followed Muhammad's path. Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'"

Mein Kampf:677 "Since our view of life will never share power with another, it cannot co-operate with the existing doctrines it condemns. It is obliged to fight by all available means until the entire world of hostile ideas collapses." Throughout the entirety of the Islamic era we have heard a singular battle cry: Bukhari:V4B53N386 "Our Prophet, the Messenger of our Lord, ordered us to fight you till you worship Allah Alone." Both men envisioned an eternal battle and total submission.

Mein Kampf:677 "This corrosive fight...for the new program and new view of life [religion] demands determined fighters...and a forceful fighting organization. The recipe for a favorable result requires the formulation of a declaration of war against all existing order [religions and doctrines], and against all existing conceptions of life in general." Just like Islam, it was the Nazis against the world. The "House of Islam" forever battles the "House of War." Tabari IX:69 "He who believes in Allah and His Messenger has protected his life and possessions from us. As for those who disbelieve, we will fight them forever in the Cause of Allah. Killing them is a small matter to us."

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/Mein_Kampf.Islam

62 posted on 01/06/2007 12:15:37 AM PST by Fred Nerks (Read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf download. Link on my bio page.)
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To: Fred Nerks
Thanks for your input Fred. I knew you would have something important to say!
63 posted on 01/06/2007 12:33:34 AM PST by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: smoothsailing
In a later meeting with the American Congress, the two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."

Well this proves a couple of things; 1) Our current presence in the Middle east has absolutely nothing to do with the Muslims being pissed at us. 2) The existence of the State of Israel has nothing to do with it either.

Muslims simply have the arrogant idea that they are the only faith that is legitimate, even though they are the 'Johnny come Lately' in the faith arena, and that anyone who doesn't agree and rejects Islam can be killed with impunity.

64 posted on 01/06/2007 12:39:59 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: smoothsailing

The Koran is just Mein Kampf in Arabic.

What the author neglects to state is that Presley O'Bannion (seplling), the U.S. Marine Officer who led that force against the pirates of Tripoli, was cheated of a military victory he could have own, by the U.S. State Department negotiating a treaty with the demons before he could act.

The Tripolitanian pirates were the last Islamic group to really threaten the west before the deevelopemnt of advanced military technology by our people - until recently.

The pirates of Tripoli also raided as far north as Ireland and Engalnd, attacking coastal villages and enslaving people there too.

We have met the enemy and it is Islam. Too many of us have yet to recognize it as such.


65 posted on 01/06/2007 12:51:38 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: IncPen; BartMan1

ping


66 posted on 01/06/2007 1:26:13 AM PST by Nailbiter
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To: Albion Wilde

Black Christian leaders should be thundering this from their pulpits non stop!


67 posted on 01/06/2007 2:33:06 AM PST by tkathy (Sectarian violence? Or genocidal racists? Which is a better description of islamists?)
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To: F-117A

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How the Hell did Ellison get access to one of Jefferson's books?
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When Jefferson was running out of money later in life he was forced to sell off his book collection (was one of the largest collections in the US) and most of it was bought for what became the Library of Congress.


That Koran may have been there accessible in the Library of Congress??


I do wonder what the majority of his district (non-muslim) think of his choice??




68 posted on 01/06/2007 3:10:51 AM PST by wodinoneeye
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To: smoothsailing
Finally some one said what I have been thinking since first hearing of that absurdity. Great story, Thanks, Glen
69 posted on 01/06/2007 3:15:26 AM PST by stratous
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To: smoothsailing
What a superb article. Thanks for posting!
70 posted on 01/06/2007 3:52:51 AM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: smoothsailing

Thank you Democrats and mindless American (so-called) who gave us this......thing in Congress.

71 posted on 01/06/2007 4:08:58 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: NonValueAdded

Thanks for the ping. It seems to me that if Ellison knew his history, Jefferson's Kuran would have been the LAST Kuran he would have wanted to be sworn in on. I am no great fan of TJ, but the Barbary Wars was his great moment.


72 posted on 01/06/2007 4:10:57 AM PST by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: smoothsailing; Just A Nobody
"millions for defense but not one cent for tribute,"

Was trying to remember who said that the other night as I stood outside the Pelosi coronation event.

73 posted on 01/06/2007 4:23:29 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (For DemocRATs, being an American is all about rights, not duties.)
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To: smoothsailing
Very interesting. Thanks for posting it.

Carolyn

74 posted on 01/06/2007 4:26:24 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: smoothsailing; Albion Wilde; Soldiers Father
Incredible. OUTSTANDING. Thank you for this wonderful article ... well done, timely, and educational. I'd not put this together, and appreciate it very much. I will pass it on.

I'm considering adding new keyword to this as it relates to selective reporting of old media when it comes to our efforts in Iraq & the war on terror: oldmediamissesiniraq

75 posted on 01/06/2007 4:45:16 AM PST by cyn (thanks so much to all who serve ... we appreciate you more than we can say)
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To: alicewonders

I think it might be linked to the, "Black Power" thing you here so much of these days.

These crazy converts think they will rule America!!!


76 posted on 01/06/2007 4:46:14 AM PST by buck61
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To: smoothsailing

Fantastic post. I did not know this part of our nation's history. Marking for later reference.


77 posted on 01/06/2007 4:48:33 AM PST by Blue Eyes (Praying for a miracle.)
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To: plain talk
Why wasn't our side educating the people as to why Jefferson had this Quoran? Cowardice - that's the reason - plain and simple.

No, ignorance.

I read the Quoran over 30 years ago as a teenager, shortly after reading the Bible for the second time from beginning to end.

Last fall I wanted a better translation, so began looking in bookstores.

I had wondered why Bush constantly refers to Islam as a "religion of peace", when it so clearly is not.

I was startled at what I found in Barnes & Noble.

They had over 15 different versions of the Quoran on the shelf.

I always use Sura (chapter) 48 when looking at translations.

In any "old" Quoran, 20 years old or more, the title of that chapter is "Spoils of War".

In all but one of the "modern" translations, the title was either in Arabic script, so English readers wouldn't know its meaning, or was the English word, "Victory".

In older versions of english translation Quorans, Sura 48 tells how Allah will rain down fire upon the unbelievers, and their possessions will be divided among the true believers as "spoils of war".

"Modern" versions, in the last 20 years or so, say nothing of Allah raining down fire upon unbelievers, and merely say Allah will provide believers with "great booty", or.... get this... "great acquisitions", never saying where this is to come from.

Anyone reading these "new" translations of the Quoran would be led to believe Islam is a "religion of peace", and equivalent to any other religion.

They are pulling the wool over our eyes, or at least over the eyes of ignorant English speakers and readers with these "propaganda" translations.

I imagine this even may include the new muslim congressman. Had he taken the time to read what is in the translation Jefferson had, he may have had a real eye opener.

78 posted on 01/06/2007 5:00:46 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: SuziQ
Muslims simply have the arrogant idea that they are the only faith that is legitimate, even though they are the 'Johnny come Lately' in the faith arena, and that anyone who doesn't agree and rejects Islam can be killed with impunity.

Of course the believe their faith is the only legitimate one.

The Quoran (older translations) states it over and over.

See my post above regarding translations.

79 posted on 01/06/2007 5:04:46 AM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: SkyPilot; Albion Wilde

The Washington Times front page photo yesterday was a large shot of Speaker Pelosi giving her rendition of the Black Power Salute. She called it the Back to Power salute.

It was attributed to Getty images. If possible, future collages could show Ellison and Pelosi fists together.


80 posted on 01/06/2007 5:09:32 AM PST by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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