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The Tale of the Invisible Seven-Hundred-Mile Fence
self | 6 January, 2007 | joanie-f

Posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by joanie-f

Ever since the crisis at our southern border was recognized as one, there have been countless meaningless rumblings, and one actual piece of ‘legislation’ (not suprisingly, still unsupported by the funds to back it up) from congress -- all aimed at suppressing citizen outrage regarding our open borders -- none of which is destined to see realization.

When it comes to genuinely and resolutely addressing the crisis occurring across the border, everything that emanates from Washington is simply window dressing. To the majority of opportunistic traitors in our government, the invasion that is destroying our national identity, making a mockery of the rule of law, rewarding insidious parasitic behavior, and putting every American citizen in danger, is secondary in importance to the desire to increase their voting base, the lure of cheap labor, or the vision of a one-world borderless utopia. And don’t tell me the fundamental nature of the above does not fall under the definition of treason (common synonyms: betrayal, disloyalty, duplicity).

Tom Tancredo, in his book In Mortal Danger, writes:

We have the necessary technology, combined with human resources, to secure our borders tomorrow. It is a canard for politicians to say that it is impossible and that we must figure out a different way to defend America rather than defending our borders. What they are really saying is, ‘I choose not to defend and secure our borders because there are political ramifications that I fear.’ It is those fears that put the life of every American citizen in mortal danger.

Every day that our borders remain porous physically endangers every one of us, as a result of the increase in violent crime that invariably accompanies the influx of the criminals, and it drains our economy and our education and healthcare systems because many of the parasites demand and receive the same services that the rest of us have earned. But, much worse, it increases the likelihood (becoming more of a certainty with the passage of time and the inaction of those whose charge it is to ensure our safety and sovereignty) that there is an ever-increasing number of terrorists among us, some of whom have brought with them the means for our destruction.

Jerome Corsi, author of Unfit for Command, discusses the threat that both nuclear suitcase bombs, and dirty bombs, pose in his more recent book, Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians:

... the threat of dirty bombs is real, though we should not assume that a dirty bomb would be the weapon of choice, especially not for a group of skilled terrorists who would have the backing of a nuclear-armed rogue state such as Iran. The mad mullahs and their terrorist associates would, if possible, opt for a much more deadly scenario, one that could truly bring the civilized world to its knees in the space of one day. If serious terrorists are going to spend their time devising attacks, the terror masters directing them will move to the most feasible attack that can cause the maximum amount of damage. Why bother with anything less?

Whatever their eventual modus operandi may be -- future attacks of a nuclear, chemical, biological, or other sort -- the facts are clear: there are already countless islamic cells within our borders. They are proselytizing and recruiting in mosques, schools, and prisons. And we continue to allowing more of them, and additional 'equipment', to enter this country virtually unfettered.

With such an unprecedented, deadly threat staring us in the face, and virtually nothing keeping islamic operatives from simply strolling across our southern border ... suitcase in hand ... with what are the president and congress occupying themselves?

The piously declared ‘new era’ in Washington is being ushered in with significant fanfare and air of self-importance. Will the much-touted ‘new Iraq policy’, an increase in the minimum wage, expansion of embryonic stem-cell research, a tightening of ethics rules (where have we heard that before, and which of the ‘fool-me-once’-challenged among us continues to believe such pap?), and the inexhaustible fountain of nonsense posing as issues of importance, have any relevance when one of more of our cities are reduced to rubble, and our countrymen are suffering in debilitating ways that our minds cannot even begin to comprehend?

Not only is our government reneging on its promise to build a physical barrier to prevent the continuing flood of illegals of all stripes (islamic terrorists surely among them). Our fearless leaders are also stationing our countrymen at the border, putting their lives in extreme danger, and forbidding them to do what needs to be done to fulfill their duties.

Yesterday National Guard troops stationed along the Arizona border were forced to retreat when confronted by hostile criminals intent on crossing. Unable to engage the enemy because their role is bureaucratically defined as not to extend beyond an administrative capacity, members of the greatest fighting force in the history of the world had no choice but to retreat at their own border, when confronted by armed criminals seeking to cross (story).

Every informed American knows that the goal of islamic terrorists is to bring America to her knees, in as brutal and violent a manner as possible. We also know that we have it entirely within our power to at least dramatically reduce the probability that they will succeed. Yet our own leadership is forbidding us to do so, when the single most vital responsibility of our government is to defend our territorial integrity.

When the next, and much more deadly and virulent, terrorist attack occurs here on American soil, upon whom do we lay the blame for the torment and suffering that will befall thousands, if not millions, of our innocent countrymen? Do we hate the madmen who have made no secret of their desire to destroy us? Or do we reserve a more potent brand of hatred for those calculating pretenders among us who claim to be our protectors, while at the same time placing their insatiable thirst for personal power above the very lives and liberties of those whose trust and commission they consistently debase, and deliberately betray?

The American government is as much an enemy of the American people as is any Middle Eastern terrorist organization. And, if wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing deceit contributes to degree of malevolence, then the wickedness of those who claim to represent us, and who claim to have our best interests at heart, is beyond measure.

The American Crisis is worsening by the day, while our leadership continues to turn a convenient blind eye, polishing their primping and posturing skills, and offering up meaningless, toothless, mirage ‘solutions’ to a cancer that threatens to eventually render our individual liberty and sovereignty extinct.

It would appear that the future of our republic rests on the shoulders of the American patriot. We are walking down a path ... certainly not well-lit, nor well-traveled ... that has not existed in our lifetimes, or those of our parents or grandparents. We must continue to keep the Founders’ vision primary in our focus, and always look to Him for guidance.

I believe I hear them weeping, and imploring us to reflect on the glorious history of this republic, the monumental sacrifices that were required to make it so, and the need to assure her future (‘to provide new guards for [her] future security’) ... before the time and opportunity to do so has passed.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed


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Ever since the crisis at our southern border was recognized as one, there have been countless meaningless rumblings, and one actual piece of ‘legislation’ (not suprisingly, still unsupported by the funds to back it up) from congress -- all aimed at suppressing citizen outrage regarding our open borders, none of which is destined to see realization.

When it comes to genuinely and resolutely addressing the crisis occurring across the border, everything that emanates from Washington is simply window dressing. To the majority of opportunistic traitors in our government, the invasion that is destroying our national identity, making a mockery of the rule of law, rewarding insidious parasitic behavior, and putting every American citizen in danger, is secondary in importance to the desire to increase their voting base, the lure of cheap labor, or the vision of a one-world borderless utopia. And don’t tell me the fundamental nature of the above does not fall under the definition of treason (common synonyms: betrayal, disloyalty, duplicity).

Tom Tancredo, in his book In Mortal Danger, writes:

We have the necessary technology, combined with human resources, to secure our borders tomorrow. It is a canard for politicians to say that it is impossible and that we must figure out a different way to defend America rather than defending our borders. What they are really saying is, ‘I choose not to defend and secure our borders because there are political ramifications that I fear.’ It is those fears that put the life of every American citizen in mortal danger.

Every day that our borders remain porous physically endangers every one of us, as a result of the increase in violent crime that invariably accompanies the influx of the criminals, and it drains our economy and our education and healthcare systems because many of the parasites demand and receive the same services that the rest of us have earned. But, much worse, it increases the likelihood (becoming more of a certainty with the passage of time and the inaction of those whose charge it is to ensure our safety and sovereignty) that there is an ever-increasing number of terrorists among us, some of whom have brought with them the means for our destruction.

Jerome Corsi, author of Unfit for Command, discusses the threat that both nuclear suitcase bombs, and dirty bombs, pose in his more recent book, Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians:

... the threat of dirty bombs is real, though we should not assume that a dirty bomb would be the weapon of choice, especially not for a group of skilled terrorists who would have the backing of a nuclear-armed rogue state such as Iran. The mad mullahs and their terrorist associates would, if possible, opt for a much more deadly scenario, one that could truly bring the civilized world to its knees in the space of one day. If serious terrorists are going to spend their time devising attacks, the terror masters directing them will move to the most feasible attack that can cause the maximum amount of damage. Why bother with anything less?

Whatever their eventual modus operandi may be -- future attacks of a nuclear, chemical, biological, or other sort -- the facts are clear: there are already countless islamic cells within our borders. They are proselytizing and recruiting in mosques, schools, and prisons. And we continue to allowing more of them, and additional 'equipment', to enter this country virtually unfettered.

With such an unprecedented, deadly threat staring us in the face, and virtually nothing keeping islamic operatives from simply strolling across our southern border ... suitcase in hand ... with what are the president and congress occupying themselves?

The piously declared ‘new era’ in Washington is being ushered in with significant fanfare and air of self-importance. Will the much-touted ‘new Iraq policy’, an increase in the minimum wage, expansion of embryonic stem-cell research, a tightening of ethics rules (where have we heard that before, and which of the ‘fool-me-once’-challenged among us continues to believe such pap?), and the inexhaustible fountain of nonsense posing as issues of importance, have any relevance when one of more of our cities are reduced to rubble, and our countrymen are suffering in debilitating ways that our minds cannot even begin to comprehend?

Not only is our government reneging on its promise to build a physical barrier to prevent the continuing flood of illegals of all stripes (islamic terrorists surely among them). Our fearless leaders are also stationing our countrymen at the border, putting their lives in extreme danger, and forbidding them to do what needs to be done to fulfill their duties.

Yesterday National Guard troops stationed along the Arizona border were forced to retreat when confronted by hostile criminals intent on crossing. Unable to engage the enemy because their role is bureaucratically defined as not to extend beyond an administrative capacity, members of the greatest fighting force in the history of the world had no choice but to retreat at their own border, when confronted by armed criminals seeking to cross (story).

Every informed American knows that the goal of islamic terrorists is to bring America to her knees, in as brutal and violent a manner as possible. We also know that we have it entirely within our power to at least dramatically reduce the probability that they will succeed. Yet our own leadership is forbidding us to do so, when the single most vital responsibility of our government is to defend our territorial integrity.

When the next, and much more deadly and virulent, terrorist attack occurs here on American soil, upon whom do we lay the blame for the torment and suffering that will befall thousands, if not millions, of our innocent countrymen? Do we hate the madmen who have made no secret of their desire to destroy us? Or do we reserve a more potent brand of hatred for those calculating pretenders among us who claim to be our protectors, while at the same time placing their insatiable thirst for personal power above the very lives and liberties of those whose trust and commission they consistently debase, and deliberately betray?

The American government is as much an enemy of the American people as is any Middle Eastern terrorist organization. And, if wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing deceit contributes to degree of malevolence, then the wickedness of those who claim to represent us, and who claim to have our best interests at heart, is beyond measure.

The American Crisis is worsening by the day, while our leadership continues to turn a convenient blind eye, polishing their primping and posturing skills, and offering up meaningless, toothless, mirage ‘solutions’ to a cancer that threatens to eventually render our individual liberty and sovereignty extinct.

It would appear that the future of our republic rests on the shoulders of the American patriot. We are walking down a path ... certainly not well-lit, nor well-traveled ... that has not existed in our lifetimes, or those of our parents or grandparents. We must continue to keep the Founders’ vision primary in our focus, and always look to Him for guidance.

I believe I hear them weeping, and imploring us to reflect on the glorious history of this republic, the monumental sacrifices that were required to make it so, and the need to assure her future (‘to provide new guards for [her] future security’) ... before the time and opportunity to do so has passed.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

1 posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:58 AM PST by joanie-f
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To: joanie-f; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Good morning, joanie.

It's always a pleasure to read your essays.

Today, I have the pleasure of pointing one out to the folks on the border ping list.


2 posted on 01/06/2007 8:34:15 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about Support for our Troops)
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To: Czar; Jeff Head; Euro-American Scum; Smartass; La Enchiladita; ForGod'sSake; EternalVigilance; ...

Forgive the double-post (don't know how that happened). :(

Ping to a few FReeper FRiends.


3 posted on 01/06/2007 8:35:08 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: HiJinx

Thanks, HiJinx, for the border ping and the kind comments.


4 posted on 01/06/2007 8:36:48 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
...the single most vital responsibility of our government is to defend our territorial integrity.

That's got a pretty high "duh" factor, don't it...

5 posted on 01/06/2007 8:37:55 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: joanie-f

Kind comments are easy to make when deserved.
Hopefully, we can get this essay into the public eye.
Folks really need to know what contempt Washington holds for our national security.


6 posted on 01/06/2007 8:39:03 AM PST by HiJinx (Ask me about Support for our Troops)
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To: Waywardson; Broadside; Gelato; Taxman; Ladycalif; CounterCounterCulture; outlawcam; chicagolady; ...

ping...


7 posted on 01/06/2007 8:39:43 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: joanie-f
When the next, and much more deadly and virulent, terrorist attack occurs here on American soil, upon whom do we lay the blame for the torment and suffering that will befall thousands, if not millions, of our innocent countrymen?

Don't worry about that.

If you're one of the survivors, you'll be too busy fighting your fellow, innocent countrymen over a maggot-riddled, crust of bread.

8 posted on 01/06/2007 8:44:32 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: joanie-f
The American government is as much an enemy of the American people as is any Middle Eastern terrorist organization. And, if wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing deceit contributes to degree of malevolence, then the wickedness of those who claim to represent us, and who claim to have our best interests at heart, is beyond measure.

That's the money line and I couldn't agree more. Both Washington and Lincoln warned that America would only be conquered not by a foreign army, but one within our own borders. As you have so aptly pointed out, we are being betrayed by those at the very top levels of our government - those who swore an oath to protect, defend and maintain the Constitution.

Should we ever sweep the traitors from office, those who manage to escape the gallows should never see a free day on earth again. Our country isn't being stolen, it is being given away by those charged with its defense.

Exceptionally good essay, Joanie, well done.

9 posted on 01/06/2007 8:47:14 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: johnny7
If you're one of the survivors, you'll be too busy fighting your fellow, innocent countrymen over a maggot-riddled, crust of bread.

An unpleasant picture, but one that every American needs, yet refuses, to contemplate.

10 posted on 01/06/2007 8:49:12 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
I believe I hear them weeping, and imploring us to reflect on the glorious history of this republic, the monumental sacrifices that were required to make it so, and the need to assure her future (‘to provide new guards for [her] future security’) ... before the time and opportunity to do so has passed.

...As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood”.

That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect.

Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now.

Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know.

All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.


-- Enoch Powell, British Conservitive Party MP, 1968, on British immigration policy.


11 posted on 01/06/2007 8:50:50 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: joanie-f
Too bad for your claim in this article is totally false. Try actually finding out the facts next time before posting. The $1.2 billion for the Fence is in the Homeland Security budget signed Oct 6th 2006.

Now instead of continuing to whine about an Issue you obviously know nothing about, why don't you go ask your heros the Democrats what THEY plan to do when that $1.2 billion is spent?
12 posted on 01/06/2007 8:52:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie (I do not forgive Senator John McCain for helping destroy everything we built since 1980.)
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To: DustyMoment
Should we ever sweep the traitors from office ...

Short of an actual revolution, the prospect of that feat ever being accomplished is becoming more difficult by the day -- thanks to an increasing number of laws (one of which was co-authored by a man who may well be the next republican presidential nominee)aimed at silencing the voice of the average citizen.

Thanks for the kind, and insightful, comments.

13 posted on 01/06/2007 8:53:38 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
More information for your reading pleasure.

The Path to National Suicide by Lawrence Auster (1990)

An essay on multi-culturalism and immigration.

Click the Pic!!!!

How can we account for this remarkable silence? The answer, as I will try to show, is that when the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 was being considered in Congress, the demographic impact of the bill was misunderstood and downplayed by its sponsors. As a result, the subject of population change was never seriously examined. The lawmakers’ stated intention was that the Act should not radically transform America’s ethnic character; indeed, it was taken for granted by liberals such as Robert Kennedy that it was in the nation’s interest to avoid such a change. But the dramatic ethnic transformation that has actually occurred as a result of the 1965 Act has insensibly led to acceptance of that transformation in the form of a new, multicultural vision of American society. Dominating the media and the schools, ritualistically echoed by every politician, enforced in every public institution, this orthodoxy now forbids public criticism of the new path the country has taken. “We are a nation of immigrants,” we tell ourselves— and the subject is closed. The consequences of this code of silence are bizarre. One can listen to statesmen and philosophers agonize over the multitudinous causes of our decline, and not hear a single word about the massive immigration from the Third World and the resulting social divisions. Opponents of population growth, whose crusade began in the 1960s out of a concern about the growth rate among resident Americans and its effects on the environment and the quality of life, now studiously ignore the question of immigration, which accounts for fully half of our population growth.

This curious inhibition stems, of course, from a paralyzing fear of the charge of “racism.” The very manner in which the issue is framed—as a matter of equal rights and the blessings of diversity on one side, versus “racism” on the other—tends to cut off all rational discourse on the subject. One can only wonder what would happen if the proponents of open immigration allowed the issue to be discussed, not as a moralistic dichotomy, but in terms of its real consequences. Instead of saying: “We believe in the equal and unlimited right of all people to immigrate to the U.S. and enrich our land with their diversity,” what if they said: “We believe in an immigration policy which must result in a staggering increase in our population, a revolution in our culture and way of life, and the gradual submergence of our current population by Hispanic and Caribbean and Asian peoples.” Such frankness would open up an honest debate between those who favor a radical change in America’s ethnic and cultural identity and those who think this nation should preserve its way of life and its predominant, European-American character. That is the actual choice—as distinct from the theoretical choice between “equality” and “racism”—that our nation faces. But the tyranny of silence has prevented the American people from freely making that choice.

And:

Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States: A Book of Charts. (Heritage report).

Lots of long reading. I hope you can use it.

14 posted on 01/06/2007 8:54:04 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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If you're one of the survivors, you'll be too busy fighting your fellow, innocent countrymen over a maggot-riddled, crust of bread.

An unpleasant picture, but one that every American needs, yet refuses, to contemplate.

CWII list ping. PorcuPING and FSW list ping.

15 posted on 01/06/2007 8:54:21 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: joanie-f
From your pen to the eyes of someone who will take lead. If only they'd open them to read.

Thank you, Joanie-F.
16 posted on 01/06/2007 8:56:09 AM PST by lindor
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To: DustyMoment

That's the money line and I couldn't agree more. Both Washington and Lincoln warned that America would only be conquered not by a foreign army, but one within our own borders. As you have so aptly pointed out, we are being betrayed by those at the very top levels of our government - those who swore an oath to protect, defend and maintain the Constitution.

Should we ever sweep the traitors from office, those who manage to escape the gallows should never see a free day on earth again. Our country isn't being stolen, it is being given away by those charged with its defense.
------
Yes, well stated. Washington stopped working for the American people quite some time ago -- and America is being given and bargained away daily....


17 posted on 01/06/2007 8:59:09 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: joanie-f
The American government is as much an enemy of the American people as is any Middle Eastern terrorist organization. And, if wolf-in-sheep’s-clothing deceit contributes to degree of malevolence, then the wickedness of those who claim to represent us, and who claim to have our best interests at heart, is beyond measure.

To me, That is the cornerstone of your article. Beautifully written I might add.

Border Bump!

18 posted on 01/06/2007 8:59:16 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
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To: MNJohnnie
What is put down on paper, versus what actually becomes a physical reality, will surely bear no resemblance to each other.

Read: (It'll never happen)

19 posted on 01/06/2007 9:00:35 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
The American government is as much an enemy of the American people as is any Middle Eastern terrorist organization.

Well, not everyone within the government, nor all of those who draw a government paycheck...I hope. But there are many such within who answer to other masters superior to their oaths to the Constitution of the United States, or who are just in it for the paycheck and retirement package.

But I'm certainly more at ease with the knowledge that my oath is to *support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same...*:

"I, (name)(SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of Major, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

(DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)

20 posted on 01/06/2007 9:01:54 AM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: joanie-f; All
Just look to NOLA... and the immediate days following the levee break. Then imagine THAT... as everyday life in America.
21 posted on 01/06/2007 9:05:07 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: joanie-f
The Texas Gov Perry a few month before campaign suddenly was for border control and the weeks after he won he took down the website he was boasting about on commercials. Many around here are fuming on the flip flop.
22 posted on 01/06/2007 9:05:20 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: processing please hold

Joanie
I feel your passion and am sorry to disagree. To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top and I don't think you really believe that but add that statement just to show how strongly you feel about the subject.
Having lived on the border all my life I can tell you its not perfect..a rich country right next to a poor country. But both nations are better off with trade both sides of the communities along the border benefit. As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm. Now those imans, mullahs, and assorted nuts..can't we go after them?


23 posted on 01/06/2007 9:06:57 AM PST by Westpole
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To: raybbr

Thanks for the additional resources. I appreciate information available online, and for which I don't have to spend my hard-earned, not-yet-confiscated, dollars. :)

Will check them out (especially the Heritage report) later this week when I have the time to sit down and digest them. Much appreciated ...


24 posted on 01/06/2007 9:07:43 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: lindor

Thanks for the kind comments, lindor.


25 posted on 01/06/2007 9:08:42 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: processing please hold

Thanks for the kind comment, pph.


26 posted on 01/06/2007 9:09:25 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: archy

Tagline change.


27 posted on 01/06/2007 9:10:51 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy
... there are many such within who answer to other masters superior to their oaths to the Constitution of the United States, or who are just in it for the paycheck and retirement package.

Bears repeating ... along with the pledge they have betrayed.

28 posted on 01/06/2007 9:11:10 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
Excerpted from

January 15, 2007 Issue
Copyright © 2007 The American Conservative

Fragmented Future

Multiculturalism doesn’t make vibrant communities but defensive ones.

In America, you don’t need to belong to a family-based mafia for protection because the state will enforce your contracts with some degree of equality before the law. In Mexico, though, as former New York Times correspondent Alan Riding wrote in his 1984 bestseller Distant Neighbors: A Portrait of the Mexicans, “Public life could be defined as the abuse of power to achieve wealth and the abuse of wealth to achieve power.” Anyone outside the extended family is assumed to have predatory intentions, which explains the famous warmth and solidarity of Mexican families. “Mexicans need few friends,” Riding observed, “because they have many relatives.”

Mexico is a notoriously low-trust culture and a notoriously unequal one. The great traveler Alexander von Humboldt observed two centuries ago, in words that are arguably still true, “Mexico is the country of inequality. Perhaps nowhere in the world is there a more horrendous distribution of wealth, civilization, cultivation of land, and population.” Jorge G. Castañeda, Vicente Fox’s first foreign minister, noted the ethnic substratum of Mexico’s disparities in 1995:

The business or intellectual elites of the nation tend to be white (there are still exceptions, but they are becoming more scarce with the years). By the 1980s, Mexico was once again a country of three nations: the criollo minority of elites and the upper-middle class, living in style and affluence; the huge, poor, mestizo majority; and the utterly destitute minority of what in colonial times was called the Republic of Indians…

Castañeda pointed out, “These divisions partly explain why Mexico is as violent and unruly, as surprising and unfathomable as it has always prided itself on being. The pervasiveness of the violence was obfuscated for years by the fact that much of it was generally directed by the state and the elites against society and the masses, not the other way around. The current rash of violence by society against the state and elites is simply a retargeting.”

These deep-rooted Mexican attitudes largely account for why, in Putnam’s “Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey,” Los Angeles ended up looking a lot like it did in the Oscar-winning movie “Crash.” I once asked a Hollywood agent why there are so many brother acts among filmmakers these days, such as the Coens, Wachowskis, Farrellys, and Wayans. “Who else can you trust?” he shrugged.

29 posted on 01/06/2007 9:11:16 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: joanie-f
Mexico: Production in Mexico’s largest oil field peaked in 2004 and is slated to decline at about 14 percent per year. Mexico has discovered many other deep water oil fields that could offset the declining production in older fields, but does not have the funding or the expertise to develop them. All Mexican oil and gas resources were nationalized in 1938 and foreign ownership is prohibited by the Mexican constitution.

Last March, the CEO of Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex) Luis Ramirez Corzo stated that the company needs to invest $20 billion annually for the next 20 years to maintain production. However, Pemex has invested only about half that over the past 5 years. Amazingly, as private oil companies around the world raked in record profits last year, Pemex lost $3.75 billion. Why? The chief reason is that the Mexican government loots the company to finance itself. Only a state-owned oil company can lose money when oil prices have been this high.
30 posted on 01/06/2007 9:12:08 AM PST by ckilmer
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To: Orange1998

I was not aware of that. Absolutely sickening.


31 posted on 01/06/2007 9:12:33 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Orange1998
Well not only do we have open boarders here in San Diego but now our esteemed *ahem* Republican Gov. wants me to pay for the health care of illegal children (even more than I already pay)! Frickin' amazing!

"Come one, come all, and let me pay your way" *shaking head in disgust*

32 posted on 01/06/2007 9:13:02 AM PST by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: archy

And the clock ticks....


33 posted on 01/06/2007 9:17:13 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: joanie-f; archy

Good post. Unfortunately by the time folks wake up it will be way too late.


34 posted on 01/06/2007 9:17:51 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Westpole
These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm

I beg to differ. How about La Raza and La Mecha? They want "their" land back and they openly state it.

Generalizations do not tell a complete story.

35 posted on 01/06/2007 9:19:31 AM PST by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: RadioAstronomer

It's already too late.


36 posted on 01/06/2007 9:19:40 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: joanie-f
Short of an actual revolution, the prospect of that feat ever being accomplished is becoming more difficult by the day. ...

But it makes a Soviet Union/1991-style breakup more possible, and more likely. The loss of several border states to Mexico or invading Mexican squatters, those states being *guaranteed* protection by the constitution, would constitute a sufficient constitutional abrogation to render the Constitutional contract between government and governed forfeit, null and void:

U.S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

37 posted on 01/06/2007 9:20:52 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: ckilmer
Your post explains, in part, why the mass northern exodus is occurring. The problem is that, when these people seek refuge within our borders, they too often refuse to assimilate, or revere that which brought them here. They eagerly transform from oppressed to parasitic.

Thanks for the access to little-known (and, unfortunetly, little-sought) information.

38 posted on 01/06/2007 9:21:14 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: Dead Corpse
It's already too late.

No. You put your back against mine, and we add a worthy companion or relative or two to our efforts, and take one step forward, and we've reestablished a Zone of Control and a FEBA.

Add in a few more like-minded and qualified individuals, [AKA *citizens*] and it's an Operational Area. Accordingly, it's not at all tooi late.

39 posted on 01/06/2007 9:27:22 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: joanie-f
BEFORE Election Day

Republican Gov. Rick Perry has made securing the state's 1,254-mile (2,000-km) border with Mexico a major part of television ads in his re-election campaign. The cameras at www.texasborderwatch.com will also be equipped with night vision lenses for 24-hour surveillance.

AFTER Election Day.. http://www.texasborderwatch.com/

The Texas Border Watch Test Site is now closed

40 posted on 01/06/2007 9:27:47 AM PST by Orange1998
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To: Westpole
To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top

I am not 'equating' our government with terrorists. I am considering the relative evil of those who openly threaten to destroy us with the (what I see as at least equally) evil of those who have it within their power to dramatically reduce that possibility, but instead choose to look the other way.

As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans

I never said the 'poor Mexicans' are the terrorists. Please re-read. But neither can I in any way agree with your assertion that 'both sides' are benefitting from this blatantly criminal, parasitic relationship.

As for your assertion that most of the illegals mean us no harm, I cannot even begin to respond to that. In addition to sucking the lifeblood out of the economies in the southwestern states, causing a dramatic increase in the crime rates, and placing American citizens in physical danger, are you not aware of the agendas of organizations such as La Raza (to which the majority of illegals may not subscribe, but whose power is nonetheless growing daily)?

41 posted on 01/06/2007 9:29:26 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
I was not aware of that. [Texas Gov. Perry flipflop] Absolutely sickening.

Spend a little time *here*. Oh, and also *here*.

42 posted on 01/06/2007 9:30:30 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: archy
And that is the ONLY way this will be fixed.

Let me amend my statement: It is already too late to assume that the system will fix itself. The check and balances are broken or ignored.

Unless "We the People" act to correct things, there will be no correction.

43 posted on 01/06/2007 9:33:19 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
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To: Westpole
Then we agree to disagree.

With illegal aliens invading, murdering, raping, kidnapping our citizens and destroying our social and economic well-being, our government is complacent in stopping it. They are enabling our destructor's to do their bloody best to bring us, as a nation to our knees. If you don't have a problem with that, I respectfully suggest that you look inward to find out why it doesn't bother you.

How long before a nuke goes off in a major American city? The rop phrase is bs and anyone with half a brain cell knows this, yet, OUR government continues to toss that worn out lie at us whenever possible.

You think only Mexicans are flooding across our border? The link below is a story I have read many times. Most people won't read it because it requires more time than the average dump in the toilet.(pardon my crudeness) Give it a read, see what you think.

Pray That This Is Fiction

44 posted on 01/06/2007 9:33:43 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
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To: joanie-f
... there are many such within who answer to other masters superior to their oaths to the Constitution of the United States, or who are just in it for the paycheck and retirement package.

Bears repeating ... along with the pledge they have betrayed.

Very well:

U.S. Constitution, Article II, Section one:

The President shall, at stated times, receive for his services, a compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that period any other emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."


45 posted on 01/06/2007 9:34:12 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: joanie-f

You are very welcome.


46 posted on 01/06/2007 9:34:15 AM PST by processing please hold (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
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To: Dead Corpse; joanie-f; archy
It's already too late

I thnk so too.

47 posted on 01/06/2007 9:36:18 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Westpole
As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.

We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

48 posted on 01/06/2007 9:37:51 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: joanie-f

OK....life can be so simple if applied correctly. Write your state reps demanding that everything be shut down in Washington until the board problems are fixed to the approval of all of us. Include in this....their pay and no pay raises will be allocated until the boarder is shut down. I'm not preaching the idea of taking over our government, but I am saying that our people can shut them down if we really want to.


49 posted on 01/06/2007 9:38:07 AM PST by Ron2
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To: RadioAstronomer; Dead Corpse; joanie-f
It's already too late

I thnk so too.

Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet.
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

Rudyard Kipling, Recessional, 1897.

50 posted on 01/06/2007 9:44:30 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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