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The Tale of the Invisible Seven-Hundred-Mile Fence
self | 6 January, 2007 | joanie-f

Posted on 01/06/2007 8:31:55 AM PST by joanie-f

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To: MNJohnnie
It is a really stupid political move to spend all your time shooting your allies in the back.

Then why are your heroes, the RINO hacks running our party, so danged stupid? They've been shooting at conservatives every day for years. You're a poster boy.

151 posted on 01/07/2007 8:29:05 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: MNJohnnie
You all just handed the Democrats a victory

What total rot. You and your friends can tell this big lie all you want, but it won't make it true.

Fact is, it is RINOs like you who crossed over and directly voted for Democrats. If I had a nickel for every "Republican for _____________ (insert Dem candidate's name)" that I've seen over and over again, I could retire comfortably. Some few conservatives may have stayed home for various reasons, but they don't go vote for something even worse. It just isn't in their nature.

Half the time Democrats, and their media organs, don't have to lift a finger. RINOs and their political hacks have already done all the heavy lifting when it comes to attacking and damaging conservatives.

152 posted on 01/07/2007 8:48:11 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: joanie-f
Once again consider...

Amazing that the RNC and republican hierarchy could seem to care less about the dead voting, legal and illegal aliens voting, double voting in different precincts(states, county's, venues), and other voting fraud(s).. Almost always by democrats and almost never investigated..

This is Very suspicious... maybe even conspiratorial..

I'm still suspicious of GW Bush running against a known traitor in 2000 and a known moron in 2004.. its just too convient... How could he(Bush) have lost?.. And YES both elections were too close.. Even democrats know Al Gore was/is a moron..

Too many things don't add up..

153 posted on 01/07/2007 9:01:08 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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To: joanie-f

Yeah, Rick Sanoturum really succeeded by pushing the immigration issue in your state. ;-)


154 posted on 01/07/2007 9:04:03 PM PST by Clemenza (Put down that coffee! Coffee is for closers!)
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To: MNJohnnie

It's telling when Democrats prove more conservative than their Republican counterpart.


155 posted on 01/08/2007 3:38:22 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: azhenfud; All
It's telling when Democrats prove more conservative than their Republican counterpart.

Yes... yes it is.

While I have no respect for anyone who decided to sit out the midterm election because their Republican candidate(s) was RINO(except in the case of Lieberman), the line between the two parties on MANY core issues has become blurred. The Republican party is now being led by big-government nanniests like Collins, Snowe, Specter, McCain, Warner, Graham and Lugar. The whole lot turns my stomach.

Bush also has a role in this mess... but to be fair... we chose Bush because he was the best for all of us in 2000 and 2004. He is defending our nation at a time when others in America would leave us at the mercy of evil.

In the end, it all comes down to the primaries... and I guess we have to start from there.

156 posted on 01/08/2007 5:19:04 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
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To: joanie-f

Good job (although I had to click on your screen name this morning to make sure you hadn't been banned overnight). :-)


157 posted on 01/08/2007 8:15:35 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f; Common Tator
Doing nothing is equivalent to passive acquiescence to being swallowed up by a foreign enemy.

The arithmetic of this situation is something we can literally "do nothing" about. What we can do, of course, is stop the hemorrhage at the border, then figure out what to do with the "patient." We have to plan now to avoid future chaos.

A rational person must consider that we are starting on the same geo-biological process as the original conquistadores, that is founding an entirely new ethnic group ... or dare I say "race?" An extremely small number of the Latin Americans of today are of exclusively European ancestry. Perhaps eventually our nation will simply become more like the rest of the hemisphere, through intermarriage. This is even happening today in such formerly European-based countries like Argentina and Chile, who have their own illegal immigration problems!

The numbers are such that European-Americans will be assimilated into their cultures, instead of the traditional American path of Old -World Europeans becoming "Americanized."

This will not happen next week. But over the next century? Who knows?

158 posted on 01/08/2007 8:27:31 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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To: joanie-f
An addendum to your "Some final words on the immigration crisis:

Roots of Latino/black anger

159 posted on 01/08/2007 8:45:13 AM PST by B4Ranch (Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
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To: johnny7
The Republican party is now being led by big-government nanniests like Collins, Snowe, Specter, McCain, Warner, Graham and Lugar. The whole lot turns my stomach.

This sort of politician is a natural consequence of our culture. We have been turned into "consumers of government," (and of course government services) rather than citizens.

The disgusting toads referenced in your post have merely recognized the phenomenon. After the blip of Ronald Reagan on our historical radar, we are going back to the era when all the conservatives in the country could have (and often did) meet on the poop deck of William F. Buckley's "Cyrano."

Perhaps these RINOs will win an election or two, but don't expect to notice any major difference betwen one side of the aisle or the other. Keep up the good fight locally.

160 posted on 01/08/2007 10:07:02 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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To: joanie-f; MNJohnnie
I'm sure we'll all be waiting breathlessly to see whether FR's chairman of the party-above-principle Big Tent RINO bloviators has anything to say by way of responding to your damning indictment of our so called Republican party and what laughingly passes for its leadership. Your response also rather politely leaves MNJohnnie's self righteous rant lying in its own pool of sanctimonious drivel.

The party cultists simply cannot come to grips with the reality they are not, and likely never will be, true conservatives. They cannot understand that those who are have had enough and that we are through gritting our teeth and pulling that "least worse" lever. The accumulated GOP heresy has become too wide and too deep to any longer ignore.

161 posted on 01/08/2007 5:45:07 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar; joanie-f; Brad's Gramma; HiJinx; LowOiL; hosepipe; GVNR; Common Tator; EternalVigilance; ...
I'm sure we'll all be waiting breathlessly to see whether FR's chairman of the party-above-principle Big Tent RINO bloviators has anything to say by way of responding to your damning indictment of our so called Republican party and what laughingly passes for its leadership. Your response also rather politely leaves MNJohnnie's self righteous rant lying in its own pool of sanctimonious drivel.

Hmmm…..All of you wrote excellent responses to MNJohnnie’s garbage, but all we hear from him now is *silence*. He must be hiding in a corner somewhere or gone running to his handlers for a "talking points refresher." :)

162 posted on 01/09/2007 6:25:24 AM PST by Minuteman23
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To: EveningStar
You guys need to watch what you're posting. This is a public forum.

"I, (NAME)(SSAN), having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of MAJOR do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God."

--(DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)
This is a public statement.
163 posted on 01/09/2007 12:51:22 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Westpole; joanie-f
To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top

FBI definition of terrorism: the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.

164 posted on 01/09/2007 12:54:32 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: MNJohnnie
All those illegals and their anchor babies are going to be Democrat voters.

Not once the Social Security system [40% of the US budget] collapses. You don't think the Republicans and Democrats plan on taking the blame, do you?

Remember what happened in Albania in 1997?

And in Romania in 1989?

165 posted on 01/09/2007 1:02:55 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Minuteman23

I am completely out of patience with the GOP party-above-principle cultists and their shameless attempts to blame the midterm election disaster on conservatives. If what they seek is someone to blame--and it is--these dupes need to look in the mirror. Casting their votes year in and year out for worthless RINOs, always pulling that "least worse" lever, they actually encouraged the RINOs to keep doing what they were doing (emulating the Rats). And why wouldn't they? They knew they could count on the dupes to keep voting for them, no matter what, just as long as they had that "(R)" after their name.


166 posted on 01/09/2007 4:26:17 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
Casting their votes year in and year out for worthless RINOs, always pulling that "least worse" lever, they actually encouraged the RINOs to keep doing what they were doing (emulating the Rats). And why wouldn't they? They knew they could count on the dupes to keep voting for them, no matter what, just as long as they had that "(R)" after their name.

I agree. And what better way to explain the fact that among current set of "front runners" there's not a real conservative to be found. Conservatives have been holding their noses and voting for middle-of-the-roaders for so long that the "moderates" have risen to the top---and they're certainly not the cream.

167 posted on 01/09/2007 8:02:52 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f; Czar
Humans Events’ Top Ten RINO’s:

Notice that one of the three Presidential front-runners made the cut (and the other two should have too). It doesn’t leave any real conservative any choice in 2008, at least from the looks of it now.

1. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R.I.) Once approached by Democratic Leader Harry Reid to switch parties, Chafee has long supported liberal policies. He backs legal abortion, gay rights, federal-funded health care, strict environmental protections and a higher minimum wage. Opposes ANWR drilling. Also was the only Republican in Congress not to endorse the President’s reelection and one of three who tried to gut Bush’s tax cuts.

2. Sen. Olympia Snowe (Maine) A self-described “centrist,” Snowe scored a 100% pro-choice voting record as scored by NARAL and consistently votes with Democrats on social issues.

3. Sen. Arlen Specter (Pa.) “Snarlin’ Arlen” warned Bush not to nominate judges who might overturn Roe v. Wade, joined Chaffee reducing tax cuts and supported Democrats on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, HMO and overtime regulation. Also opposed school choice in Washington, D.C.

4. Sen. Susan Collins (Maine) Voted with liberals on the 1999 tax cut, campaign finance reform and the partial-birth abortion ban. Also advocated “pay-as-you-go” tax cuts with spending increases in 2004, leading to a budget never agreed upon between the House and Senate.

5. Rep. Christopher Shays (Conn.) He led the House fight for McCain-Feingold campaign finance “reform.” He’s also prone to back environmental causes, gun control and abortion rights. He had no GOP challenger in 2004, but narrowly escaped defeat, 52% to 48%, by a Democratic opponent in the general election.

6. Gov. George Pataki (N.Y.) Helped unions raise pay and unionize Indian casinos. Has said, “I believe in a limited government, low taxes, a tough approach to crime. ... But I also believe in an activist government. I’m not one of those laissez-faire types.”

7. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (N.Y.) Over the course of his 23-year career, he’s gained considerable power (chairman of the Science Committee), despite amassing one of the most liberal voting records of any House Republican. Fought back conservative challengers in 2000 and 2002 and could face a GOP challenge in ’06.

8. Gov. Mitt Romney (Mass.) Has said, “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country.” Supports civil unions and stringent gun laws. After visiting Houston, he criticized the city’s aesthetics, saying, “This is what happens when you don’t have zoning.”

9. Rep. Michael Castle (Del.) As president of the moderate Republican Main Street Partnership and key player in the so-called Tuesday Group lunches, he is a ring-leader of RINOs. He’s teamed with Democrats to make federal funding of embryonic stem cell research one of his top priorities.

10. Rep. Jim Leach (Iowa) One of only six House Republicans to vote against the Iraq War resolution in 2002, he was also the only Republican to vote against President Bush’s 2003 tax cuts. His support for environmental causes and abortion rights has won him liberal fans.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1547711/posts

168 posted on 01/09/2007 8:46:36 PM PST by Minuteman23
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To: joanie-f
"And what better way to explain the fact that among current set of "front runners" there's not a real conservative to be found."

With one, perhaps two, exceptions, the entire pack of candidates is a list of RINO losers who cannot and will not motivate the conservative base. Unless a real conservative emerges from the dung piles of Washington, 2008 will merely be a rerun of the 2006 midterms.

I see no indication that the so called GOP "leadership" has yet learned its lesson. Until it does, it will never again be the majority party.

169 posted on 01/10/2007 11:06:27 AM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Minuteman23; joanie-f
"Humans Events’ Top Ten RINO’s:"

Human Events is right on the mark. A collection of useless liberals who have done nothing to promote the conservative agenda. Instead, they often busy themselves doing everything possible to torpedo that agenda. They may as well re-register as Rats since they vote that way much of the time anyway.

170 posted on 01/10/2007 11:14:16 AM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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