The Tale of the Invisible Seven-Hundred-Mile Fence

self | 6 January, 2007 | joanie-f

[archy]

Is it too soon to start shooting the bastards?

I believe Claire's answer would now be 'no,' but you'd have to ask her. :)

She wrote that quite some time ago, in 1995 or thereabouts. You might find her more recent thoughts on the subject to be of interest. Slaves.

...I do believe that a fight is inevitable, whether that's a fight in the streets or the trenches, or whether that is some sort of confrontation that may not involve arms but may nevertheless involve violence and head-to-head action. I think that's inevitable, and I think more and more people are coming to the conclusion that it is.

April 19th, as you all know, is a day in history when many people _have_ taken up arms, when they have been _forced_ to take up arms. Peaceable people in Lexington and Concord, desperate people in the Warsaw ghetto. Even when they had no hope, or little hope, they took up arms. But here we stand, and although a lot of us have arms with us, or not far from us, we're not ready to "take up arms" yet.

But I hope we're preparing ourselves. I hope we're at least thinking about it.

In the last year and a half, since I originally wrote those frustrated, angry words, things have gotten a hell of a lot worse. And it's almost scary how little the disaster that we're in the middle of has been acknowledged. ...

[LowOiL]

Too bad for your claim in this article is totally false. Try actually finding out the facts next time before posting. The $1.2 billion for the Fence is in the Homeland Security budget signed Oct 6th 2006.
Now instead of continuing to whine about an Issue you obviously know nothing about, why don't you go ask your heros the Democrats what THEY plan to do when that $1.2 billion is spent?

Illegals : Last-minute bill changes funding for border fence into virtual fence instead

[righteousindignation]

Although it may be just a drop in the bucket, my husband and I have been impelled to try to do something!! We have posted a petition for all to sign on lawopenforum.com to urge Congress to vote against amnesty, or be voted out themselves.

[FastCoyote]

Well, last estimate I heard was that it was projected to take $20 billion to build the fence, so they would just make it virtual.

[archy]

Is it too soon to start shooting the bastards?

It has been said by others that the time has indeed come when it is morally right to begin shooting at least some of the bastards, but that it may not yet be practical to do so.

However, that was said nearly a decade ago. And some of the bastards have indeed turned up shot dead.

The FBI has offered a million-dollar reward, but in five years time, have only managed to round up a few of their favourite scapegoats as suspects.

[Thombo2]

Well written and so true-thanx.Not long ago i had a conversation with a co-worker(recent graduate of USF).The conversation turned to politics/social issues.I asked him what he thought about the problem of illegal immigration.He looked at me with a straight face and asked "what problem?".This supposedly intelligent(?)and educated young man was totaly clueless.I'm afraid most Americans fit in that catagory.

[MNJohnnie]

I see. Our New SOP is in place. Do not bother trying to teach factual reality to the Know Nothings. Any fact that is not screamed at them by con men like Tancredo, who merely is aiming to keep the issue in hysteric panic mode so those campaign contribution keep flowing to his pocket, is "a lie".

The facts do not change just because they contradict the comfortable little bubble world the anti Illegals are busy building between themselves and reality.

So wander over and ask those buddies of your the Democrats, the people you Know Nothings spent all your time the last year virtually campaigning for with your rabid refusal to learn even ONE thing that was going on in DC, what THEY are going to do about your issue. Thanks to YOU people, THEY run the show now. You can quit wasting our time with your hysterics. The Republican House members fought tooth and nail to kill "Amnesty" and YOU all fired them for it.

Go to DC now and see if anyone cares in the least to hear what any of you people have to say about Immigration now. You fools just fired the ONLY people in DC who were on your side!

[Brad’s Gramma]

BTTT for reading later.

Thank you joanie-f....I KNOW this will be another GREAT essay...that will be ignored by some, scoffed at by others, and prayerfully...make others THINK and finally ACT.

[Brad’s Gramma]

You fools just fired the ONLY people in DC who were on your side!

One quick question...what exactly did those people in DC do FOR this country's borders when they were in power?

[HiJinx]

Well...now...that just sounds like a lot of sour grapes.

I think Grammie just pegged you...

[processing please hold]

I think Grammie just pegged you...

She did. An excellent coup de grace without breaking a sweat.

[LowOiL]

You fools just fired the ONLY people in DC who were on your side!

WHAT??? (insert a name here, like you have lowered yourself to), this "so called" fool has the ONLY two state Senators that actually stood up against the Liberals and Rino's in the Senate.

Check you voting records on Alabama senators... 6 years President Bush has hammered them to join him for lowering the border bar on immigration for the republican party

BTW... sir the only reason we have solid true republicans here in bama is because it seems we don't suffer your RINO's down this way. Because we actually stand for something that the RINO's have long forgot.

BTW.. a "fool" to me is someone that can see the truth the Bible puts out about subjects but rejects them. You may vote for a RINO that spits on subjects, but I will not. Catering Homosexuality, encouraging illegal immigration, turning a blind eye to abortion, etc...

Romans 3:8 (King James Version)
And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.

Because people like you have turned a blind eye to election people, saying lets support RINO's so that good might come possible later of it, we now have had a Congress that was said to be conservative, but couldn't pass a dang thing to prove it. A last second bill that was dittled with changing the wall into something like a video game "virtual" is not what I call an accomplishment.

Heck, we had an congresscritter that was a known child molestor and because of RINO PCism was allowed to roam free until his damnation was brought to light by the enemy... Just as the Bible said would happen.

I will leave you with a quote...

Excerp from Pilgrim's Progress (Children's version by Tim Dowley)...

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Reference John 10:1 -- He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber. .

We were born in the Land of Emptiness, and we're on our way to the Heavenly City," they replied.
"Then why did you jump over the wall, instead of coming through the little wooden gate? Don't you know that anyone who climbs in a different way is a thief?"
"It's a long way to the wooden gate," answered Mr. On-the-Surface. "Our people always take this short-cut. They've done it for hundreds of years, so it can't be wrong."
"But it's against the rules."
"It doesn't matter how we got in," said the men.
"If we're in, we're in."
"I walk by the Master's rules; you go your own way," said Christian.

[FastCoyote]

"Thanks to YOU people, THEY run the show now. "

Um, no, I sure did my part to keep them out of power.

It isn't fun to watch the spittle come off someone spewing like you just did.

[pax_et_bonum]

bump to read later

[Torie]

Islamics have a tough time slipping through Mexico as illegals into the US. They are not popular in Mexico, and stand out like a sore thumb.

The fence will be of only modest benefit as long as employers can hire illegals with relative impunity. They will come. Economics is the universal solvent - of borders, and of laws that stand athwart its path.

[archy]

As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.

Guatemalan commandos, Mexican drug cartels and the U.S.
Frontera NorteSur

Mexico was jolted by revelations this week by Defense Secretary Gen. Ricardo Clemente Vega tying elite Guatemalan commandoes to a Mexican drug cartel operating on both sides of the US-Mexico border. In an appearance before the Mexican Senate, Gen. Clemente announced the detention of five Guatemalan nationals in Chiapas state earlier this month on arms and immigration law violations. The defense secretary said a probe was underway examining possible links between the men — all reputed to be members or ex-members of the Guatemalan army's counterinsurgency unit known as the Kabiles — and Los Zetas, the heavily armed enforcers of Mexico’s Tamaulipas-based Gulf Cartel.

We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."

--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985

And where is this Borge today...its been 22 years since he made that ridiculous statement.

My understanding is that he's one of the deditos [*little fingers*] for one of the nastier drug cartels. But you might look for him to turn up *here*, acting on behalf of his old boss again.

In the summer of 1984, Ronald Reagan offered photos of narcotrafficante Pablo Escobar and one of Borges' aides, Federico Vaughan, loading Escobar's coke onto a C-123 cargo plane.

I know that every American parent concerned about the drug problem will be outraged to learn that top Nicaraguan government officials are deeply involved in drug trafficking." "This picture, secretly taken at a military airfield outside Managua, shows Federico Vaughan, a top aide to one of the nine commandants who rule Nicaragua, loading an aircraft with illegal narcotics bound for the United States."

--President Ronald Reagan, 16 July 1986.

Do you really want to declare Mexico an enemy? Haven't we already enough of those?

We aren't the ones invading them. Though it may come to that again, as in 1916. Whether or not I want it is immaterial; there it is.

Goodness please take a course in enemy identification!

Okay! Glad to oblige....

[La Enchiladita]

Thank you for the ping, joanie-f. I'll look at this more closely later .... have bookmarked it.

[EveningStar]

As Larry Elder said yesterday, neither party is really opposed to illegal immigration.

-- The Democrats want them as voters.

-- The Republicans don't want to be perceived as racists.

-- Both Democrats and Republicans are business owners and want the cheap labor.

[La Enchiladita]

You have probably already been pinged at least once, but wanted to return your thoughtfulness.

;^)

[Arizona Carolyn]

Thank you,