To: processing please hold
I feel your passion and am sorry to disagree. To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top and I don't think you really believe that but add that statement just to show how strongly you feel about the subject.
Having lived on the border all my life I can tell you its not perfect..a rich country right next to a poor country. But both nations are better off with trade both sides of the communities along the border benefit. As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm. Now those imans, mullahs, and assorted nuts..can't we go after them?
posted on 01/06/2007 9:06:57 AM PST
These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm
I beg to differ. How about La Raza and La Mecha? They want "their" land back and they openly state it.
Generalizations do not tell a complete story.
posted on 01/06/2007 9:19:31 AM PST
(What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top
I am not 'equating' our government with terrorists. I am considering the relative evil of those who openly threaten to destroy us with the (what I see as at least equally) evil of those who have it within their power to dramatically reduce that possibility, but instead choose to look the other way.
As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans
I never said the 'poor Mexicans' are the terrorists. Please re-read. But neither can I in any way agree with your assertion that 'both sides' are benefitting from this blatantly criminal, parasitic relationship.
As for your assertion that most of the illegals mean us no harm, I cannot even begin to respond to that. In addition to sucking the lifeblood out of the economies in the southwestern states, causing a dramatic increase in the crime rates, and placing American citizens in physical danger, are you not aware of the agendas of organizations such as La Raza (to which the majority of illegals may not subscribe, but whose power is nonetheless growing daily)?
posted on 01/06/2007 9:29:26 AM PST
(If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
Then we agree to disagree.
With illegal aliens invading, murdering, raping, kidnapping our citizens and destroying our social and economic well-being, our government is complacent in stopping it. They are enabling our destructor's to do their bloody best to bring us, as a nation to our knees. If you don't have a problem with that, I respectfully suggest that you look inward to find out why it doesn't bother you.
How long before a nuke goes off in a major American city? The rop phrase is bs and anyone with half a brain cell knows this, yet, OUR government continues to toss that worn out lie at us whenever possible.
You think only Mexicans are flooding across our border? The link below is a story I have read many times. Most people won't read it because it requires more time than the average dump in the toilet.(pardon my crudeness) Give it a read, see what you think.
Pray That This Is Fiction
posted on 01/06/2007 9:33:43 AM PST
by processing please hold
(ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage made in heaven.)
As to the whole business about terrorist threat coming from Mexico..please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.
We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica, and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or five years or fifteen years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they are going into Dallas, into El Paso, into Houston, into New Mexico, into San Diego, and each one will have embedded in his mind the idea of killing ten Americans."
--Thomas Borge, Nicaraguan Interior Minister, as quoted in the Washington Times, March 27, 1985
posted on 01/06/2007 9:37:51 AM PST
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
To: Westpole; joanie-f
These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.
While that's true for most Mexicans, it doesn't apply to all. And even many of those who are here to do what you say are not at all friendly to Americans or to our way of life. This is truly a problem that has been exacerbated by the pols in Washington.
Answer me this. You need to work for 40 quarters (10 years) to qualify for Social Security benefits. How does it make you feel to know that the illegals you're talking about only need to work for 6 quarters to earn those same benefits?
posted on 01/06/2007 9:57:41 AM PST
(Ask me about Support for our Troops)
Six gang rapes by illegal aliens
,Smugglers of Illegal Aliens Cause Rising Violence in Arizona
America as Predators Paradise
More illegal aliens tried in gang rapes
Man (illegal alien), 19, accused of lewd and lascivious acts with girl, 13
Illegal aliens linked to gang-rape wave
14 farm workers arrested in kidnap, rape
Sting rounds up 25 foreigners for sex crimes
Illegal alien rapes puppy
Study: 1 million sex crimes by illegals - 100 offenders crossing border daily
Charge is sex with 13 year old
Border Sex Slave Ring Defendant Gets 10 Years
Jeffersonville suspect caught in Louisville (molested 8 year old girl)
Court dates loom in taxi, school rapes
Man sentenced to 20 years under new sex offender law (raped 8 year old)
Illegal immigrant rapes one woman and assaults another
4 illegal aliens gang-rape woman in NYC,
Another Child and drug Smuggling Arrest at Hidalgo Port
16 Year Old Illegal Immigrant sentenced to 33 years for rape and burglary
Feds Bust 25 Illegal Alien Sexual Predators in L.A.
Illegal alien suspect in newlywed's rape arrested in Texas
Calif. fugitive wanted on sex charges arrested at Canadian border
Man, 19, accused of lewd and lascivious acts with girl, 13
Illegal Immigrant Arrested for Rape of Newlywed
Jamaican Immigrant Sentenced for Rape of 13-Year-Old
Fugitive Sexual Predators Wanted by Interpol Nabbed in New Jersey
Illegal immigrant denied bail reduction (for trying to abduct 11 year old girl)
Child-rape suspect tells police he has HIV (raped 5 year old and knew he had HIV)
Man pleads guilty in Frame Park rape
Illegal immigrant pleads guilty to assaulting 6-year-old girl
Illegal Immigrant Suspected in Rapes and Dozens of Sexual Assaults,
More Details on Illegal Immigrant Accused of Raping Children,
Illegal aliens linked to gang-rape wave - The crime epidemic no one will talk about?,
Outrage as 'rapist' vanishes,
Illegal immigrants charged with sexual assault on two 13 year old girls,
Illegal immigrant is given 10 years in gross sexual imposition case,
Theories swirl around Friday's kidnapping, rape,
Illegal immigrant accused of impregnating 10-year-old girl
Worst of the worst arrested during Special Operation
, Illegal alien kidnaps and rapes 9 year old girl,
Immigrant Suspected in 7 Sexual Assaults,
Police Looking For Illegal Immigrant Suspected Of Raping A Child,
Illegal Immigrant Charged with Sodomizing Young Boy,
Members of Mexican Sex Slave Ring Sentenced,
Illegal alien jailed for sexual assault of girl, 14
Man dies in shootout with Calif. cops (illegal immigrant)
16-year-old illegal immigrant sentenced for brutal knifepoint rape
, Naked illegal alien In Mask Attacks Babysitter,
36 Immigrant Sex Offenders Arrested In Orange County
, Illegal immigrant is given 10 years in gross sexual imposition case,
posted on 01/06/2007 10:32:42 AM PST
The press secretary for the California Republican Party is the son of illegal aliens who came the USA 35 years ago. In this article he chronicles
how in recent years there has been a massive change in the number and kind of illegals coming north. Including a crimnal element that is causing a deterioration in the quality of life of Americans. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan
People have been referring to the Captains Quarters
as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that -- for the numbers to be true -- it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.
Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms
From the FBI crime statistics
* An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.
Illegal Alien Crime Wave
On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.
More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice
posted on 01/06/2007 10:33:18 AM PST
please reconsider..its the islamic facists not poor mexicans. These people pick our fruit and clean our toilets they wish us no harm.
Would you please explain to us all why 30% of our prison beds is taken by these *poor mexicans* who wish us no harm?
I know these *poor mexicans* are supposed to have wonderful family values and all that would make them great citizens.
Would you please explain to us all why so many of them refuse to cross at a Port of Entry and why they refuse to assimilate themselves to us?
Would you please explain to us all why so many of them were carrying the Mexican flag during their marches last fall?
Would you please explain to us all why so many of them refuse to learn the English language?
While you are at it, please explain why our President appears more interested in preserving the Mexican culture than he is the American culture.
Just a few more simple questions, are you Hispanic? If you are not, why are you so interested in helping the *poor mexicans*? Have you adopted any of these *poor mexicans* yet?
"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be NO divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all.
We have room for but ONE flag, the American flag...
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...
and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
posted on 01/06/2007 11:03:17 AM PST
(Press "1" for English, or Press "2" and you will be disconnected until you learn to speak English.)
"To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top "
Sorry, I'll have to disagree with you on this one.
I believe that equating the government's lack of action to put a stop to the flood of ILLEGAL immigrants into the U.S. IS INDEED tantamount to traitorism and derelection of duty as "supposed" representatives of the people of the United States.
Refusing to deal with the potential danger of a flood of "undocumented people" of UNKNOWN nationality (Mexican? - maybe, but who knows for sure?) is certainly close to being traitorous to America.
Who knows, for sure, WHAT the nationalities are? No-one. Who knows what one or some of them might bring into the country? No-one. Who knows what the actual intention of EVERY ONE of the people coming in, is? No-one.
At one time, people wanting to come to America in order to make a better life for themselves and their families came into the country LEGALLY! Nowadays, politicians and the "left" welcome the illegals with open arms, the underlying reason? - to increase their voting base! How much more of this behavior will we tolerate before there's a backlash of major proportion.
How can America expect to PROTECT the citizenry by ignoring the free flow of people across the border, THEN, to add insult to injury, the idiots who are supposed to be representing us are giving away all types of social services to them.....services that you and I, as law abiding taxpayers are paying for!
Those things considered, I consider the statement to be accurate.
That, in my mind DOES put the politicians in the same class as the terrorists.
posted on 01/07/2007 7:50:13 PM PST
("The cry from the "left" - You ain't seen nothin' yet! Wait'll we screw EVERYONE!")
To: Westpole; joanie-f
To equate our government with terrorists is a bit over the top
FBI definition of terrorism: the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.
posted on 01/09/2007 12:54:32 PM PST
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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