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To: Czar; Jeff Head; Euro-American Scum; Smartass; La Enchiladita; ForGod'sSake; EternalVigilance; ...

Forgive the double-post (don't know how that happened). :(

Ping to a few FReeper FRiends.


3 posted on 01/06/2007 8:35:08 AM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f

I couldn't have said it better (and wouldn't even try). :-)


60 posted on 01/06/2007 10:23:50 AM PST by Minuteman23
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hey put me on your ping list I love reading your posts.


74 posted on 01/06/2007 10:45:09 AM PST by jpsb
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Thank you for the ping, joanie-f. I'll look at this more closely later .... have bookmarked it.


97 posted on 01/06/2007 1:14:47 PM PST by La Enchiladita (People get ready . . .)
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To: joanie-f; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
OK. So I am having a major problem. Call it resonance.

Right now, all the sound and fury over illegal immigration signifies exactly nothing because the damage has been done. The idea of an America with an European-American majority, with well-defined minorities, of the 1960's is over. The fact that we based our national identity upon it is just too damned bad.

Like it or not, we are well on our way to a Latino-American population of well over 100Million. Since 1965. thanks to legal, and of course massive illegal immigration, the fundamental American ethnography has changed.

Changing that fact, whether I or you like it or not, IMHO is never going to happen. There is an inexhaustible supply of people to the south of our hemisphere who want in to our northern part of the hemisphere, and we have demonstrated neither the will nor the ability to stop them. Indeed, were I living there in poverty, I would interpret this country's actual actions as encouragement for me to move.

Of course we need a strong, well-defined and well-guarded border, for many reasons. But if we did that tonight, it still would not change the demographic facts of life.

The challenge is to control our borders, No. 1. Number 2 is to figure out how to handle the ethnic shift that has already occurred and seems never to be undone. The children of illegal aliens are citizens. No one is stepping up to change that law, so it looks as if we are stuck with it. There will never be mass deportation. There will probably be mild sporadically enforced employer sanctions.

Of course Tom Tancredo is right. So what? What can he, or more importantly, we do about it? That's the question, and so far I haven't seen any answers ... even on the far distant horizon. The fact that everyone is talking about it, and 80% claim to be upset by illegal immigration, is interesting ... but is certainly not leading to anything but false "immigration reform," which if you are old enough, you will recall is how this mess got started.

Oprime numero dos para inglés.

117 posted on 01/06/2007 5:07:29 PM PST by Kenny Bunk ( Republicans could use an attack dog right about now.)
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Wow joanie; another thoughtful and excellent piece of writing. Would that I could add something to the debate, but having read through the whole thread, there just aren't any significant points that have been missed IMO.

One question comes to mind re the potential for middle eastern types crossing the southern border. That is, notwithstanding the dominance of the Catholic Church in Mexico, just as Islam has been recruiting in the cesspools of America, is it not likely the same is also true of Mexico? A converted Mexican national would fit right in with his "brothers" in America. La Reconquista on steroids???

124 posted on 01/06/2007 8:34:20 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: joanie-f
Forgive the double-post...

You are forgiven. (It was worth repeating, imo.)

These characters are sworn to uphold the Constitution, and manage to renege on the ..."provide for the common defense.." part with amazing regularity.

The one piece of legislation was and remains a 'feelgood' artifact from a gutless Congress who had not the stones to do anything meaningful, and will remain such as long as the opposition is in power, unfortunately.

126 posted on 01/06/2007 8:47:45 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: joanie-f
"To the majority of opportunistic traitors in our government, the invasion that is destroying our national identity, making a mockery of the rule of law, rewarding insidious parasitic behavior, and putting every American citizen in danger, is secondary in importance to the desire to increase their voting base, the lure of cheap labor, or the vision of a one-world borderless utopia. And don’t tell me the fundamental nature of the above does not fall under the definition of treason (common synonyms: betrayal, disloyalty, duplicity)."

An excellent and well deserved harpooning of our elitist political class currently infesting Washington. They are living on borrowed time but too fixated on personal ambition, power and money to notice how restless, dissatisfied and angry the "little people" have become. With few exceptions, the entire bunch should be driven out of office, and I am no longer fussy about the means and manner of doing so.

143 posted on 01/07/2007 3:03:07 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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