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China unveils new fighter jet
Tehran Times ^ | January 06 2007 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/06/2007 9:10:15 AM PST by knighthawk

SHANGHAI, China (AP) -- China on Friday hailed the development of its Jian-10 fighter jet, aircraft engines and air-to-air missiles as a sign it had soared into the top levels of aerospace defense technology.

China "has become the world's fourth country that is capable of developing on its own advanced fighter planes, engines and missiles," Geng Ruguang, deputy general manager of China Aviation Industry Corp., was quoted as saying by the official Xinhua News Agency.

Geng made the comments at a news conference in Beijing on Friday where the state-run aerospace company, known as AVIC I, unveiled a model of the Jian-10, Xinhua said.

It didn't name the other three countries ranked alongside China, although analysts said Geng was likely referring to France, Russia and the United States, all leading exporters of high-tech military aircraft.

Geng's announcement seemed intended to underscore the growing sophistication of China's domestic arms industry, which has struggled following the imposition of a ban on weapons sales by the United States and European Union.

It also reflects China's attempts to develop homegrown technology and intellectual property to avoid paying licensing fees to foreign companies.

China is now heavily reliant on Russia for weapons and military technology but has being seeking to scale back that dependency.

Calls to AVIC's Beijing headquarters seeking additional information rang unanswered Friday.

Friday's public announcement seems to indicate a growing confidence in the Jian-10 on the part of the government and its developers, said Robert Karniol, Asia Pacific bureau chief for Jane's Defense Weekly.

While more than one dozen of the planes are known to have been deployed with Air Force units, officials have until now mostly avoided public acknowledgment of the program, he said.

"It does represent some achievement on China's part. It reflects a growing sophistication," Karniol said.

However, he added that the plane has yet to be proven in combat and some claims as to its capabilities may have been overblown.

China has also traditionally had little success with engine development and it wasn't clear what criteria Geng had been using when he ranked China alongside other nations in sophistication, Karniol said.

Several other countries, including Britain and Sweden, have also developed sophisticated fighter aircraft, he said.

Almost 20 years in development, the Jian-10 is a latest-generation multi-role fighter bomber believed to have been developed with Israeli help using the U.S. F-16 fighter as a template. The plane was reportedly being manufactured by the Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corp. in southwestern China, a company believed to be controlled by AVIC I.

Overseas defense analysts say China was believed to have ordered up to 300 of the planes for the People's Liberation Army Air Force. However, that number may have been reduced due to the purchase of advanced Russian models such as the SU-27 and SU-30 from Russia.

Along with the Jian-10, Geng pointed to China's development of the Taihang turbofan engine and air-to-air missiles, which he didn't further identify.

While early models of the Jian-10 are powered by the Russian AL-31FN turbofan, later versions are to be fitted with the Taihang.

Geng also said China had achieved aerospace breakthroughs in the development of its ARJ-21, which is meant to be the nation's first contender in the market for regional jets. The plane, which reportedly is to seat 78 to 105 passengers, is made by AVIC I. The company hasn't said when it expects to bring its first models to market.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; j10; jian10

1 posted on 01/06/2007 9:10:18 AM PST by knighthawk
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To: MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri; ...

Ping


2 posted on 01/06/2007 9:10:46 AM PST by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk
Should have named it the Slick-10 fighter jet.

Thanks again Bill Clinton.

3 posted on 01/06/2007 9:11:06 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Why can't Republicans stand up to Democrats like they do to terrorists?)
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To: knighthawk

So, who do they consider will be their Enemy?


4 posted on 01/06/2007 9:11:31 AM PST by rovenstinez
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To: knighthawk
China "has become the world's fourth country that is capable of developing on its own advanced fighter planes, engines and missiles,"

Fourth? Sweden, the UK, Italy, France, Russia, the US, Japan...

5 posted on 01/06/2007 9:16:00 AM PST by rogue yam
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To: knighthawk

Does it have an anti-collision system?


6 posted on 01/06/2007 9:17:03 AM PST by SolidForce
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To: knighthawk
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7 posted on 01/06/2007 9:17:16 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: rogue yam
Fourth? Sweden, the UK, Italy, France, Russia, the US, Japan...

Strike Italy and the UK from that list of yours. Neither country has much in the way of an aerospace industry -- or, put it this way, if you include them, then you also have to include Spain, Israel and Germany.

8 posted on 01/06/2007 9:19:04 AM PST by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: rogue yam

It also reflects China's attempts to develop homegrown technology and intellectual property to avoid paying licensing fees to foreign companies.

"developing homegrown tech" in much the same way a burgler breaks into a home to avoid paying DVD player purchase fees


9 posted on 01/06/2007 9:21:25 AM PST by daku ("Behold this creature that walks like a man. It wants ketchup on its hot dog.")
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To: cripplecreek

Development?

It has a Russian nose, French wing and a US tail section.

They used Russian/French/US technology that they stole.

Next they will claim the developed the wheel.


10 posted on 01/06/2007 9:25:58 AM PST by JBR34
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To: knighthawk

Really!!!!! "China has also traditionally had little success with engine development"

Are you saying that Clinton and Gore forgot to give them that type of information? Amazing.....they gave them everything else.


11 posted on 01/06/2007 9:26:32 AM PST by Ron2
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To: cripplecreek

How big do you think the radar signature is for this recycled F-16? Or should I say F-22 cannon fodder?


12 posted on 01/06/2007 9:33:07 AM PST by frithguild (The Freepers moved as a group, like a school of sharks sweeping toward an unaware and unarmed victim)
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To: knighthawk
You have to admit it is damned funny that all of the pretenders, those who have to beg, borrow, buy, or steal their tech, always make this claim. The NorKies, EyeRanians, et al. It's that dog that barks a little too shrilly and pees on your shoe.
13 posted on 01/06/2007 9:33:47 AM PST by chartnah
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To: JBR34
Next they will claim the developed the wheel.

They did this right after Al Gore invented the internet.

 

14 posted on 01/06/2007 9:34:31 AM PST by Morgan in Denver
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To: JBR34

Its design also looks about 30 years old. It looks about as stealthy as a garbage truck.



15 posted on 01/06/2007 10:14:15 AM PST by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: knighthawk

The J-10 is designed similar to the Israeli Lavi which was a concept design similar to that of the F-16. This makes the J-10 at best a 4th generation fighter even if massively upgraded and improved. As such it doesn't stand a chance against 5th generation fighters like the F-22 or the EuroFighter and is even inferior to fighters such as the MiG-35 and the Su-35.


16 posted on 01/06/2007 10:18:32 AM PST by kress
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To: knighthawk
Maybe we can have an overflight during Hillary's inaugural.
17 posted on 01/06/2007 10:45:56 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

LOL!

Now that's funny.


18 posted on 01/06/2007 11:19:56 AM PST by CubaninMiami
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To: frithguild

"How big do you think the radar signature is for this recycled F-16? Or should I say F-22 cannon fodder?"

Well, it has not only canards, but two dorsal fins, and the tail isn't shielded by the wings, and there are lots of sharp angles, so I'd say tthe thing glows like a Christmas tree.

It really isn't very F16ish if you look at it. Looks like tthey copied everyone circa 1982.


19 posted on 01/06/2007 11:25:29 AM PST by FastCoyote
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To: cripplecreek

It looks pretty old tech.... can't radar pick that up about 100,000 miles away?


20 posted on 01/06/2007 11:26:20 AM PST by Porterville (Destroy the Death Culture of Socialism)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The J-10 is derived from Israel's cancelled Lavi project, Bill Clinton had little to do with it.


21 posted on 01/06/2007 11:32:14 AM PST by Republican Party Reptile
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To: knighthawk

". . . developed with Israeli help using the U.S. F-16 fighter as a template."

Thanks Israel!


22 posted on 01/06/2007 11:40:22 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: cripplecreek

Looks like a hybrid F-16, Tornado, Saab, F-4 Phantom, and Mirage.

23 posted on 01/06/2007 11:45:37 AM PST by fso301
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To: knighthawk

So, does it use American technology?


24 posted on 01/06/2007 11:47:58 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Courtesy of Israel. Would they have done this without our approval?


25 posted on 01/06/2007 11:49:24 AM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Alter Kaker

Italy is a partner in the Cassini-Huygens mission (more space, than aero- though).


26 posted on 01/06/2007 11:49:33 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: rogue yam

"China "has become the world's fourth country that is capable of developing on its own advanced fighter planes, engines and missiles,"

"Fourth? Sweden, the UK, Italy, France, Russia, the US, Japan..."

Consider the ignorant retards that wrote this crap:
"Teheran Times"


27 posted on 01/06/2007 11:54:01 AM PST by Levante
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To: frithguild
How big do you think the radar signature is for this recycled F-16

Looks more French than American to me.

28 posted on 01/06/2007 12:06:59 PM PST by PAR35
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To: knighthawk

Built with 100% STOLEN technology.


29 posted on 01/06/2007 12:23:29 PM PST by dljordan
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To: The Great RJ

"Maybe we can have an overflight during Hillary's inaugural."

That would warm her heart.


30 posted on 01/06/2007 12:25:19 PM PST by dljordan
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To: streetpreacher; Jedi Master Pikachu

To put all the blame on Israel is to be unfair.Pakistan loaned it's Chicom buddies an F-16 while Russia greatly helped with the avionics,engines & weaponry.


31 posted on 01/07/2007 4:41:49 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Porterville; All

"It looks pretty old tech.... "




All you guys are missing the bigger picture here. That is the Chinese have the capabaility to make their own jets. This is really monumental even if they have older technology. I look for huge developments from them in 8-10 years.


32 posted on 01/08/2007 7:11:49 AM PST by trtwox
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To: knighthawk; MizSterious; Nix 2; green lantern; BeOSUser; Brad's Gramma; dreadme; Turk2; keri

Hey all, check out my hate mail from Moker!!! Thanks Moker your dillusion is noted. Go Yankees!!!

"Listen up dude,

the chinese never steal anything from anyone. history proves this, thier culture was the most advanced in the pass 3000 years compared with america's 100 years. america's army/airforce/navy are only good at relying on superior technology, but when it comes to a real war with a big country, it loses every time. why is it that the US always pick on countries that are smaller at itself, and why does the US get ask for assitance from smaller countries like UK, germany and france? I mean surely a big powerful country like america can cope with the likes of iraq. It can't even beat iraq, what good is all this technology. I tell you one thing, you should get your facts straight before you start boosting about your yankee superiority.
"


33 posted on 01/28/2007 8:03:43 AM PST by Porterville (Through experience I have discovered that Yoda is a dumbass and Karma is a lie.)
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