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Report: 40 percent of county's Medi-Cal births to illegal immigrants
nctimes.com ^ | 01/06/07 | WILLIAM FINN BENNETT

Posted on 01/07/2007 8:14:45 AM PST by Pikamax

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1 posted on 01/07/2007 8:14:47 AM PST by Pikamax
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Silvia, a native of Oaxaca, Mexico, said Medi-Cal paid labor and delivery costs for both of her children, and added that she is frustrated that now she has to pay for their medical care and that she expected Friday's doctor visit to cost her $35. "I think they should pay," said the woman

A future (and probably present) Democrat voter. ....along with tens of millions of her compatriots. The GOP appears completely oblivious to this political demographic nightmare.

2 posted on 01/07/2007 8:19:28 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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Private gain (by those employing illegals), public cost, passed on to you the taxpayer. What are the tax rates now in California? 8.5% income. 8.5% sales. That's 17%. Add in a 30% Federal rate and citizens of the Golden State are paying more than 1/2 their gold to the government. From utopia to distopia in one generation.

Coming soon to a location near you!

Viva La Raza!


3 posted on 01/07/2007 8:20:46 AM PST by Jack Black
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A state report quietly released last spring shows illegal immigrants made up the largest single group of those giving birth at taxpayer expense in the state and in San Diego County in 2004.

Okay, so 40% are illegal immigrants. Of the remaining 60% how many are legal residents and how many are . . . what other category could there be? Please don't tell me that someone is breaking these statistics down by ethnic group after separating out the illegals. That is a misuse of statistical comparison.

4 posted on 01/07/2007 8:22:43 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier fighting the terrorists in Iraq)
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Money deducted from wages for Social Security is money the illegal immigrants will never see again, said Pedro Rios, San Diego office director for the Quaker organization. Illegal immigrants also pay sales tax every time they go to the store and other federal and state taxes every time they buy gasoline, he said.

True for every other citizen as well.

5 posted on 01/07/2007 8:24:38 AM PST by Red Boots
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"humanitarianwise, you can't turn your back on a newborn."

But you can rescind the anchor baby laws, beef up border security (including building a barrier), and heavily fine employers who hire illegals. Taken together those measures would go a long way to help solve the problem.

6 posted on 01/07/2007 8:25:35 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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I actually had a moron post to me here a while ago that there was a SHORTAGE of Mexican workers in California. Well based on this article the illegals are trying hard to remedy the problem !!!


7 posted on 01/07/2007 8:33:26 AM PST by Obie Wan
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"Illegal immigrants also pay sales tax every time they go to the store and other federal and state taxes every time they buy gasoline, he said."

Good point for a national sales tax. Looks like the only way to get these folks to pay their way. Withdraw or reduce the deduction for low income when they can't prove their imigrant status...


8 posted on 01/07/2007 8:36:24 AM PST by e_castillo
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Don't forget 7.2% for FICA. That brings it to 56.2% and when those illegals get a free pass plus the draining of the treasury for giving them Social Security, all of our taxes will skyrocket. You will be looking at 60 to 65% for Cali and more for NY state.

Glad those Dems are in office.


9 posted on 01/07/2007 8:38:54 AM PST by DownInFlames
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MediCal aggressively markets services on T.V. radio, news and billboards.
10 posted on 01/07/2007 8:42:30 AM PST by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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illegal taxation with illegal representation


11 posted on 01/07/2007 8:48:18 AM PST by Swordfished
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A state report quietly released last spring . . .

I read this article at www.nctimes.com this morning, and I wondered why, if the report was released last May, this was newsworthy today? Did I miss something in the article?

12 posted on 01/07/2007 8:58:45 AM PST by RightField
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Money deducted from wages for Social Security is money the illegal immigrants will never see again, said Pedro Rios, San Diego office director for the Quaker organization. Illegal immigrants also pay sales tax every time they go to the store and other federal and state taxes every time they buy gasoline, he said. True for every other citizen as well.

Maybe I don't understand this properly, but if the person has a fake SSN and having it deducted from their wages, why wouldn't they also try to file for the Socialist Redistribution Act a.k.a. earned income credit? I'm sure a lot of them do.

13 posted on 01/07/2007 8:59:53 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (This MESS is a PLACE!)
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The May report, "Medi-Cal Funded Deliveries," states that of the 14,350 taxpayer-funded births in the county that year, 5,814, or 40.5 percent, were to illegal immigrants

I bet the percentage is even higher at Tri-City Medical Center in Oceanside.

14 posted on 01/07/2007 9:00:49 AM PST by RightField
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Illegal immigrants also pay sales tax every time they go to the store and other federal and state taxes every time they buy gasoline, he said.

I would consider this line of reasoning if the Fair Tax were passed, but otherwise it is bologna. Illegals costs much more than they pay.

A side note...these people are basically complaining about the costs of socialized medicine....the very thing that the Dems want for all of US. Can't wait to see what the highest tax rate will be when we all have "free" health care. It is a right ya know. /s
15 posted on 01/07/2007 9:02:52 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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I heard this past week on Glen Beck that Illegals were refunded 10 BILLION dollars this past year via the IRS. (also read it on the minutemen project website; 10B in 2002)

The IRS has issued more than 7.4 million taxpayer ID numbers over the past 10 years to Illegals. The Illegals say that they are filing, not b/c of the refunds but b/c "they want to do the right thing by the government" sure.
16 posted on 01/07/2007 9:10:31 AM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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TEN BILLION dollars was given back to illegal aliens in income tax refunds (EIC) in 2004. And of course the government knows where they are!

TEN BILLION.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0701/04/gb.01.html

BECK: This is insanity. You know, I just saw a number -- and tell me if this number is right, if you even have it -- I just saw a number on, in 2004, what we paid illegal aliens in tax refunds, 2004. Do you know this number?

CAMAROTA: Yes, I believe -- the figure I`ve heard is about $10 billion. That`s based on estimates that the Treasury Department has done itself, $10 billion they paid back to illegal aliens.

BECK: That is insane. We`re paying them $10 billion, and we can`t arrest them, we can`t even find them, we don`t even know -- $10 billion? And now we`re giving them Social Security, one that we don`t need another country to sabotage for us. We`re doing it ourselves. The whole thing is going to collapse.

CAMAROTA: Yes, and what`s worse than that is, that the IRS issues them tax I.D. numbers so that they can then file their income tax with their false Social Security numbers so that we can give them their $10 billion back.

BECK: OK, all right. So the last thing here -- let me just role play here for a second. I`m an illegal alien. I have to now go to the government and prove to the government that I have a fake I.D., that I bought a fake Social Security card on the street in the black market, and then the government rewards me for that, right?

CAMAROTA: Yes, in effect, sure. Once you get legal status, then you apply for the credits that you earned while you were an illegal alien. And the way you do that is like you said: You show your false documents. You bring out your bogus tax returns, and so forth.


17 posted on 01/07/2007 9:15:48 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement (President DUNCAN HUNTER 2008! http://www.house.gov/hunter/border1.html)
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Illegal immigrants also pay sales tax every time they go to the store and other federal and state taxes every time they buy gasoline, he said.

And driving without a license or insurance, no doubt. Not to mention endangering lives. But hey, they have rights and we do not!

18 posted on 01/07/2007 9:26:45 AM PST by CAWats (The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God for the pulling down of strongholds)
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But hey, they have rights and we do not!

That's right and they get their hospital bills paid, but you are going to pay your are the sheriff will put you in the street.

19 posted on 01/07/2007 9:37:40 AM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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"I think they should PAY. I buy things and pay taxes.!!!"""

This is the biggest reason we cannot let the illegals take over our country.

They think that if ANYONE has more than them, they should get stuff for free.

I don't have much, but it is logical that I have SOMETHING more than someone else.
I WORKED for everything I have. I performed a job, got a NET paycheck, and purchased my things with my own discretion.

Guess the good news about all of this is that I also purchased my own guns. When someone comes and tries to "take" what is already mine, there will be some bloodshed. Probably SSS will be involved.


20 posted on 01/07/2007 9:41:41 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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