Posted on 01/08/2007 5:57:57 AM PST by A. Pole
Too long. Got a summary?
Immigration by the Numbers
This is the celebrated demonstration that Roy Beck has been giving to scores of audiences across the nation, as well as on many TV programs, including C-SPAN. Using colorful, eye-catching props, he entertains and shocks audiences with the population consequences of current U.S. immigration policies. Thousands of people across the country are finding that there is no easier way to communicate their concerns about immigration to friends, relatives and fellow citizens than by showing them Roy's video.
Click here to view this video online
The favorite part for many is the "gumballs" demonstration that illustrates the unethical nature of our immigration policy which drains the smartest, most energetic people from Third-World societies which desperately need their leadership. Taped before a college audience, the feature presentation is only 16 minutes. It is ideal for use in programs of luncheon organizations, church study groups, college and high school classes, and simply at home among friends and relatives.
This video is packed with the facts and analyses that make moral and practical sense of a complex and highly contentious issue.
which drains the smartest, most energetic people from Third-World societies which desperately need their leadership
I'm sure you're talking about illegal immigration but one of the greatest triumphs of our LEGAL immigration policy is that it has always attracted the best and brightest to our country. To see this benefit to our nation stood on it's head as a reason to resist immigration (and again I'm sure you're referring to illegal immigration) doesn't impress me.
In 1970 our population was 203 million, today it is 300 million, and by 2030 it will be 364 million. Much of our population growth, 3/4, comes from immigrants. As a matter of publlic policy, do we want this kind of growth and what impact will it have our infrastructure and culture?
Corrrection: 1965 legislation.
Bump for further review.
I'm already aware of the issues. Watching a 30 minute video(after the stops and starts) won't educate me any further. I'm sure those who haven't given any thought to the issue will have their eyes opened.
Are you trolling or what?
You said that you do not have time to have a look at video (which is short and you would not need to see it all) and asked me to provide some comment. So I posted few sentences from NumbersUSA and you pick the one least relevant to dismiss the whole issue. Have you no shame?
No. Legal immigration has always added to this country. I can trace my ancestors back to immigrants and unless you're a full blooded American Indian so can you. If the video doesn't distinguish between leagal and illegal immigration (judging from your synopsis it doesn't) then it's worse than worthless. Tell me I'm wrong and simply misunderstood your post.
It is 13 munutes and 41 seconds and it doesn't stop and start, just a little at the beginning during the screen credits. Immigration by the Numbers
Based on your comments, you don't appear to have a grasp of the issues. I don't see how you can make the statement that the video "won't educate me any further" without viewing it. The changes that took place in 1965 did more than just attract the "best and brightest" from other countries. Chain migration has boosted the numbers up from 178,000 a year to 1 million. The lack of control over our borders has added another 500,000 to 1 million illegal immigrants annually. These self-selected immigrants are mostly the poor and uneducated of Latin America.
Leaving out the emotional hot buttons associated with the immigration issue, there are very real and predictable demographic results that must be discussed as a matter of public policy. You seem to be unwilling to do that.
It discusses only LEGAL immigration.
Yes. Forget my irrelevant post (I regret that I listened to you and posted it) and see the video.
If it discusses only legal immigration then it's worthless on 2 counts. Illegal immigaration is a far larger problem and legal immigration has always been productive for this country.
Are you a total nativist? No more immigration? Period? Ever? From anywhere?
But these two are connected, if the Third World countries stagnate, you will get more poor from there as well.
One of the reason why the illegals flood from Mexico is that lost their livelihood on farms thanks to NAFTA.
This question is addressed in the video.
It is an interesting point as to whether our LEGAL immigration policies drain other countries of their best and brightest talent.
I see another slant to this....
The fact that we import the best and brightest has the side effect of masking the fact that we are not producing the best and brightest from our own schools.
Yes, we do have the best universities in the world - that's why foreign students come here. And this is precisely my point. Our K-12 system is not producing enough talent to fill our universities and the demands of an economy that needs a constant flow of brains.
It's no accident that if you go into a hospital the doctors are probably from another country. Our mathematicians are all too often born elsewhere. Ditto all too many of our engineers, physicists, nurses and other professionals.
I am not making an xenophobic comment here - please don't misunderstand. I am trying to point out our inability to produce these people from kindergarten up. There is a disconnect between our K-12 system and our university system. This flaw is masked by talented immigrants.
We don't realize we can't product enough doctors to fill our needs - because we import them. This masks the problem of our own school system.
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