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To: ClaireSolt

The interesting comparison is that many countries other than the US don't have their kids start school until age 7 or 8. Norway is one example of this.

So, at 4th grade, our kids have been in school for 4 or 5 years(counting kindergarten), and other nations' kids have been in their schools only 2 years - yet their kids have learned as much as ours.

Is that because our kids are that much less intelligent (lower IQ)? No, I am sure it is a direct result of the curriculum used.

If you want a direct comparison you can do at home, pick up the first book of Singapore's math curriculum, then look at our first grade math curriculum. It's a difference between night and day. The Singapore math books are used in classrooms with 45 or more kids per class, and these kids, by 8th grade, vastly outstrip ours in class sizes of 25 or less.

In places like Indonesia and Singapore, parents have, on average, considerably less in terms of family resources and education levels than average US parents. Additionally, we've spent more than double the amount on our kids' education than they have.

It's the curriculum, folks. IQ is just the quality of the slate brought to the table.


31 posted on 01/09/2007 9:22:55 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: cinives
If you want a direct comparison you can do at home, pick up the first book of Singapore's math curriculum, then look at our first grade math curriculum. It's a difference between night and day. The Singapore math books are used in classrooms with 45 or more kids per class, and these kids, by 8th grade, vastly outstrip ours in class sizes of 25 or less. In places like Indonesia and Singapore, parents have, on average, considerably less in terms of family resources and education levels than average US parents. Additionally, we've spent more than double the amount on our kids' education than they have. It's the curriculum, folks. IQ is just the quality of the slate brought to the table.

yet another victory for unionists, feminists and racist liberals...< /sarcasm/off >

56 posted on 01/09/2007 10:54:08 AM PST by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: cinives
In places like Indonesia and Singapore, parents have, on average, considerably less in terms of family resources and education levels than average US parents. Additionally, we've spent more than double the amount on our kids' education than they have.

It's the curriculum, folks. IQ is just the quality of the slate brought to the table.

Singaporeans here excel in the same classrooms that other students are failing in. Take a look at merit college admissions in California. Then take a look at prison admissions. Smart people will succeed in any system.

75 posted on 01/09/2007 1:54:34 PM PST by CGTRWK
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