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1 posted on 01/10/2007 1:53:57 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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I forget - - what did this guy Robert J. Samuelson have to say about George Bush's attempt to introduce a bona fide fix for siocial security wherein people get to invest their social security "contribution" so they could take control of it and watch it grow? You know - - the proposal the scumbag Democrats demogogued into oblivion?

Did Robert J. Samuelson have any opinion about that?


2 posted on 01/10/2007 1:58:54 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: MinorityRepublican

Sorry to disagree with this guy, but IMHO, it's the present day "seniors" (aka AARP members and the like) that are preventing a "fix" to the problem.

The politicians are afraid of denying or cutting back benefits because they'll lose the elderly vote.

Most boomers I talk to don't expect to collect SS, and many are planning on working past their 65th birthday, not necessarily because of necessity.


3 posted on 01/10/2007 2:04:09 AM PST by dawn53
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Maybe this is why the administration is ao all-fired anxious to get Mexicans in the door - to shoulder the social burden of our retiring baby boomers(?)


4 posted on 01/10/2007 2:07:59 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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"There's no way to rule innocent men.
The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."


"They proclaim that every man is entitled to exist without labor and, the laws of reality to the contrary notwithstanding, is entitled to receive his "minimum sustenance" his food, his clothes, his shelter, with no effort on his part, as his due and his birthright.
To receive it, from whom? "

AYN RAND


5 posted on 01/10/2007 2:22:16 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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We can live beside the ocean
Leave the fire behind
Swim out past the breakers
Watch the world die

- Everclear
8 posted on 01/10/2007 2:57:13 AM PST by Thrownatbirth (.....when the sidewalks are safe for the little guy.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

(Boomer Generation Is in a State of Denial)

Egypt?


9 posted on 01/10/2007 3:08:53 AM PST by fivecatsandadog (Don't let reality ruin your day.)
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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

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10 posted on 01/10/2007 3:47:31 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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If he were serious, he, too, would propose cuts in Social Security and Medicare.

Why take more away from the people who paid into it? If the money paid into it had been invested and allowed to grow at the prevailing market rates, instead of being plundered and squandered, there would be enough. This is the single largest CRIME in this country. Only instead of indicting the criminals, they just quietly take more away from those who invested in it.

13 posted on 01/10/2007 4:11:36 AM PST by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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Here in Britain, we're being forced into more private provision for pensions and the retirement age is being pushed up to 68. This is the start of solving the problem, but not a fix. I see no political willingness at this time from American politicians to even start to address this issue.

Regards, Ivan

14 posted on 01/10/2007 4:12:24 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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Well, not all boomers are liberals, which is what this article is saying.


16 posted on 01/10/2007 4:13:24 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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It will solve itself one way or another. At some point the workers will be so heavily taxed that they will either openly revolt or quit working. If they revolt, there will be blood in the streets and the survivors will go back to some sort of a "pay your own way, work or starve" system. Alternately, they may just quit working. If the latter, the govt. will go the totalitarian route, force them to work, and the country will do the socialist spiral down to where everybody is standing in line hoping to get their turnip ration. Too bad, but if people were smarter, outcomes would be better.


17 posted on 01/10/2007 4:27:12 AM PST by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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The X'rs seem to forget that the more mom and dad boomer die with,( $$ assets, property etc. ) the more their children stand to gain .


18 posted on 01/10/2007 4:29:29 AM PST by Renegade
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This government has taken tens of thousands of dollars from me and from my husband by force of law. I want it back.

Carolyn

20 posted on 01/10/2007 4:49:00 AM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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I turned 62 last year and had to decide whether to take the money now or wait till I'm 65.

I chose to take the money now because I have doubts as to future benefits.

Social Security needs to be slowly privatized over a period of time. I'm sure some actuarial could figure out what the ratio should be to continue to fund benefits for folks like me and to fund private investment vehicles for those coming up.
21 posted on 01/10/2007 4:50:52 AM PST by upchuck (The American coup de grāce is well on its way. Thus far, the Donks haven't had to fire a shot.)
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Tell ya what, just give me my money back from what SS and medicare/medicaid has taken and I won't take ANY SS or medicare.medicade.


22 posted on 01/10/2007 4:54:46 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Another "Boomer Bashing" thread... Sometimes I think the people who post these are just trolls trying to stir up divisiveness on this board.


32 posted on 01/10/2007 5:29:56 AM PST by Kenton (All vices in moderation. I don't want to overdo any but I don't want to skip any either.)
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This is not the approach I'm crazy about, but I think a politically possible first step is cutting back social security and Medicare for seniors with over, say, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in other income. Medicare would still cover the catastrophic costs for health care, but beyond that, they'd be on their own.

I would much prefer the option of phasing out Social Security and Medicare all together and letting the States and charity take care of the elderly hardship cases. But that's not going to pass. The best politically feasible option would be to make the Democrats claim that our country is uncaring if rich seniors don't get full benefits.

Also, cutting off rich seniors will save a great deal of money. Seniors are the wealthiest age group in America.

Now is it fair that someone pays into Social Security for their whole life, makes a few million on the side, and then finds their benefits reduced because of their hard work? No. But Social Security and Medicare aren't fair
to begin with, and sometimes, we have to look at the larger picture of how to save money and accept that the result will be unfair to some people.


46 posted on 01/10/2007 8:50:13 AM PST by Our man in washington (The Democratic party is an alliance of narcissists and parasites.)
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"Socialism is wonderful until you run out of somebody elses money." - Margaret Thatcher


48 posted on 01/10/2007 9:02:12 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Ignorance should be painful)
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Government entitlements are de facto a Ponzi scheme. If any citizen tried to run a scam such as they, he would be frog-marched to prison.


49 posted on 01/10/2007 9:04:59 AM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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Another reason why I still scratch my head about the last election. Does anyone, anywhere, at anytime believe a Democrat-controlled Congress will do anything about SS? In their desire to "show Bush we p!ssed," the American people have handed their wallets over Congress.


52 posted on 01/10/2007 10:28:12 AM PST by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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